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PIA 737 Gets New Look  
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6108 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9570 times:

First 737 to get the livery http://www.historyofpia.com/forums/v...d=d6adf018edf56226937ffbd54f9a9e7c

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User currently offlineOwleye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 962 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9236 times:

Great, looks good aswell on the 737! The newsest PIA livery is the best they ever had, a very nice tail fin paint design. I hope they stick to it for at least the next decade.

The 777 is their most pleasant and imposant looking plane:



User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3985 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7640 times:

Looks fantastic! In my opinion actually nicer than the 777 in the new livery...

User currently offlineQslinger From India, joined Apr 2006, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6470 times:

Correct me if I am wrong, but is PIA's livery a bit similar to Emirates livery? This is based on the following points;

- The writing 'PIA' on the craft is similar to Emirates
- The writing on the belly is also a copy of EK
- The Arabic lettering on the engines.
- and the most obvious, the stipe running from the belly to the tail. Only in this case, the PIA's stipe runs a bit longer, flatter and in a different colour.

Just to let you guys know that I am not taking pot shots at PIA. I actually think the livery is really cool but also happed to notice the similarity!



Raj Koona
User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3985 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6278 times:

Quoting Qslinger (Reply 3):
- and the most obvious, the stipe running from the belly to the tail. Only in this case, the PIA's stipe runs a bit longer, flatter and in a different colour.

I think that the other ones are fair (perhaps not so much the belly lettering - other airline also have that). But I can't really see a stripe quite like the PIA one in the EK livery...?


User currently offlineburj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 902 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5916 times:

Quoting Qslinger (Reply 3):
Correct me if I am wrong, but is PIA's livery a bit similar to Emirates livery? This is based on the following points;

- The writing 'PIA' on the craft is similar to Emirates
- The writing on the belly is also a copy of EK
- The Arabic lettering on the engines.
- and the most obvious, the stipe running from the belly to the tail. Only in this case, the PIA's stipe runs a bit longer, flatter and in a different colour.

-A lot of airlines have had their names in large font on the body...Pan Am comes to mind...but there are plenty of others:
http://www.panamair.org/aircraft/airbusa310.htm

-Writing on the belly IS something Emirates pioneered and several airlines have adopted this practice...

-PIA has always had the Urdu writing on their aircraft, the placement on the engines is again something that a lot of airlines do now. That practice is really not something Emirates is known as having started.

-As for the stripe...I'm not sure what you are referring to...Emirates doesn't have a stripe, the do have their flag start on the body and extend up to the tail....PIA's stripes are actually now a fairly unique design. The previous way the stripes ran was similar to many airlines, like Gulf and El Al, but the current stripes are much "sportier" so to speak...


User currently offlinesmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5848 times:

Quoting burj (Reply 5):
-Writing on the belly IS something Emirates pioneered and several airlines have adopted this practice...

I actually was under the impression that Jetstar was the first airline to do this before EK ever did....


User currently offlineburj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 902 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5797 times:

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 6):
I actually was under the impression that Jetstar was the first airline to do this before EK ever did....

Yeah I'm sorry for my choice of words...I know that Emirates wasn't the first to do it, but they made the practice widely known as they are a more widely known airline than Jetstar (or who ever did it first...)

So they were the first well known airline to do it...which is what I was trying to get across when I said "pioneered"...


User currently offlineaerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2749 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5726 times:

I think it's a step up, but still a bit clumsy. Had the cheatline ligned with the lower curve of the flag on the tail, with the light yellow belly colour extending onto the tail in lieu of the white, it would be a lot better.

User currently offlineburj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 902 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5313 times:

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 8):
with the light yellow belly colour extending onto the tail in lieu of the white

Well the white at the base of the tail is actually from the flag itself...the Pakistani flag has a white column along the left side/edge, then green with the star and cresent on the green part...

So the white part at the base of the tail is part of the whole "Flag on the tail" look they are going for...


User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5264 times:

Am I the only one that thinks the way the stripe curves is horribly awkward? When I look at it, it doesn't look at all like a smooth curve... Like the difference between a smooth curve on a slinky versus a curve on a slinky that's been stepped on and bent. I don't know how to explain it, but I think the livery in concept is nice, it's just a terrible execution of the concept.

And it's the same thing with the blue on the bottom of the fuselage on the DL livery -- a very awkward curve, the lack of it looking natural entirely ruins the livery for me. Maybe I'm just OCD or something...

Cheers,
Anthony/Airport


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6108 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5197 times:

New look on the 742M, photo by someone else.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i313/hop9/IMG_0484.jpg


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3985 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5192 times:

Quoting Airport (Reply 10):

Yes, I think I'd agree - Perhaps the curve goes horizontally flat a little sooner (going from front of aircraft to back) than it should? Is that what you mean?

I think this picture demonstrates what I mean BTW:



User currently offlineaerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2749 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4956 times:

Quoting burj (Reply 9):
So the white part at the base of the tail is part of the whole "Flag on the tail" look they are going for...

Fair enough, good point. A shame then that they didn't put the yellowish tinge "infront" of the fuselage stripe, then and left the back portion white.

Quoting 777way (Reply 11):
I think this picture demonstrates what I mean BTW:

Yeah it does, quite dramatic flattening from that angle.


User currently offlineseemyseems From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 971 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4940 times:

The B737 really suites the new PK colours, thanks for sharing!


seemyseems
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6108 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4570 times:

An ATR has also been painted now blurry video on yuoutube not worth seeing, the 737 and ATR wont be wearing Pakistan title on belly due to exposed landing gear location.

User currently offlinevheca From Australia, joined May 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4556 times:

From what I can tell by the pics, the colour of the fuselage changes from forward the cheat line and aft the cheat line.

Also, I would have preferred if the cheat line did not carry the whole way down the fuselage, maybe a wrap-around across the top of the body would have been better off?

Cheers

VHECA



Types Flown on - 312,320,722,732,733,73H,73W,742,743,74C,752,762,AB4,D1C,D28,DHT,F27,L11
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6108 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4553 times:

Quoting vheca (Reply 16):
From what I can tell by the pics, the colour of the fuselage changes from forward the cheat line and aft the cheat line.

You dont say  


User currently offlineOwleye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 962 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4481 times:

Quoting Qslinger (Reply 3):
Just to let you guys know that I am not taking pot shots at PIA. I actually think the livery is really cool but also happed to notice the similarity!

I think he PIA livery is even greater, designwise, than the Emirates. In comparison with the Emirates livery, the PIA colours look more sophisticated, the overall PIA aircraft paint scheme is more creative and distinctive. This is finally a PIA livery which can last long, very long before it needs to be re-vitalized. It's has even the potention to become an evergreen design.


User currently offlinevheca From Australia, joined May 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4415 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 17):
Quoting vheca (Reply 16):
From what I can tell by the pics, the colour of the fuselage changes from forward the cheat line and aft the cheat line.

You dont say



Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Thanks! I appreciate your feedback. I thought it may have been an illusion. My apologies for mentioning it.

Further to this point, I prefer the white than the off colouring to the rear.

Cheers

VHECA



Types Flown on - 312,320,722,732,733,73H,73W,742,743,74C,752,762,AB4,D1C,D28,DHT,F27,L11
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6108 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4004 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 15):
the 737 and ATR wont be wearing Pakistan title on belly due to exposed landing gear location.

They may get PIA logo there instead, also the newly painted ATR is not sporting gold line and is stll carrying city names and taglines according to a poster at another board.

The ATR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbZrSpMXu1Q&feature=player_embedded


User currently onlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1908 posts, RR: 42
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3795 times:
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I like it, though it's a shame IMO that they are removing the special tails. Cant wait to fly them Tuesday!


Nothing's worse then flying the same registration twice, except flying it 4 times..
User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3606 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 11):
New look on the 742M, photo by someone else.

That is AP-BAK. Wonder if sistership AP-BAT also gets repainted, being 31 years old.

By now 743 AP-BFY should be repainted as well.


User currently offlineflybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3493 times:

Is it just me or did PIA revise/change their livery 6-8 times in the past 10 years? What's the deal with that? Most airlines find a livery that works and stick with it for a decade or so until the product needs to be refreshed. IMHO changing the liveries often just means the fleet never really has any uniformity.


"Are you a pretender... or a thoroughbred?!" - Professor Matt Miller
User currently offlineOwleye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 962 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3367 times:

Quoting flybyguy (Reply 23):
Is it just me or did PIA revise/change their livery 6-8 times in the past 10 years? What's the deal with that? Most airlines find a livery that works and stick with it for a decade or so until the product needs to be refreshed. IMHO changing the liveries often just means the fleet never really has any uniformity.

Apparantly PIA never seemed to be happy with the previous livery designs. Although it would have been better to make a good change right from the beginning, it's good that they improve themselves. Concerning the fleet uniformity it is indeed horrible brandwise to operate soo many different PIA liveries.


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