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CO's New Planes In Seattle; Delivery Dates?  
User currently offlinethe777man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6577 posts, RR: 55
Posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9551 times:

Hi ! CO has 9 new 738s awaiting delivery stored at RNT and BFI; when will they be delivered ? They also have two 777s at PAE awaiting delivery.

Thanks !

The777Man


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User currently onlineFlyHossD From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9396 times:

According to the fleet plan (see link below), these aircraft will be delivered in the third quarter this year:

http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...inental_fleet_plan_2010_042202.pdf

I've heard a rumor that a new (U.S. based) seat supplier was selected a couple of months ago.



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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3952 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9057 times:

Quoting the777man (Thread starter):
They also have two 777s at PAE awaiting delivery.

N76021 delivery 19 Jul
N77022 delivery 21 Jul

Nothing planned for the 737s though.


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8386 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9032 times:
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Quoting RobK (Reply 2):
N76021 delivery 19 Jul
N77022 delivery 21 Jul

Is there a new route where CAL is flying these 2 777-20ER's ?


User currently offlinecactus1549 From France, joined Jun 2010, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9000 times:

The deliveries probably have been delayed as a result of an escalating controversy surrounding seat manufacturer Koito Industries in last February.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...tals-boeing-delivery-schedule.html


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3952 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8855 times:

Quoting the777man (Thread starter):
CO has 9 new 738s awaiting delivery stored at RNT and BFI; when will they be delivered ?

Just found out that an alternative seat supplier has been sourced and all the 737s will be delivering next month.   


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5844 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8432 times:

Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 1):
I've heard a rumor that a new (U.S. based)

US-based? Would that be Weber? I can't think of any others... BE Aero is British, as far as I know...
The Weber Slimlines are comfortable, but not durable. But I'll trade that if they're better than what CO has in the rest of their 738's.... those seats should be taken to the desert and burned.

Quoting RobK (Reply 5):
Just found out that an alternative seat supplier has been sourced and all the 737s will be delivering next month.

That's quick.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25457 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8399 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 6):
BE Aero is British, as far as I know...

B/E Aerospace is a US company with headquarters in Florida. They have some manufacturing facilities in a few countries in Europe including the UK, Ireland, Netherlands and Germany.
http://www.beaerospace.com/index.htm


User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21534 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8333 times:

CO gets their new J seat from B/E, so makes sense to go to them for the Y product.


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5844 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8084 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
B/E Aerospace is a US company with headquarters in Florida. They have some manufacturing facilities in a few countries in Europe including the UK, Ireland, Netherlands and Germany.
http://www.beaerospace.com/index.htm

Thanks for the correction- see below:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 8):
CO gets their new J seat from B/E, so makes sense to go to them for the Y product.

If I'm not mistaken, they also got the 737-9ER seats from B/E Aero, as they're completely different from the other 737NG seats, both first and coach classes. And they're definitely not Webers; I'm well acquainted with Weber 5700's.


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2415 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7990 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 9):

If I'm not mistaken, they also got the 737-9ER seats from B/E Aero
Quoting ikramerica (Reply 8):
CO gets their new J seat from B/E, so makes sense to go to them for the Y product.

B/E Spectrum in Y, to be exact. Not sure of the name of the F seat, but it is also B/E and actually a bit of a disappointment... the Koito 737 F seat is much more comfortable, though of questionable engineering!


User currently offlineSchweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 621 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7821 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 3):
Is there a new route where CAL is flying these 2 777-20ER's ?

CALs IAH-FRA service just went from 764 to 772. Don't know what route the a/c came from.

CO will probably use the two new planes to beef up existing service and/or allow for other 777s to be fitted more quickly with the new BF seats. I've heard no rumors of pending new service. They used to do well with a once-weekly Thursday IAH-EZE 772, but I guess that plane was needed elsewhere. All 762s now. EWR-FRA or EWR-ZRH could see some 772 action.

Rgds,
Scottie


User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3675 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7201 times:

Quoting Schweigend (Reply 11):
CALs IAH-FRA service just went from 764 to 772. Don't know what route the a/c came from.

I believe this came from the IAH-AMS flight which was downgauged to a 764.



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User currently offlineSchweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 621 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6948 times:

Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 12):
I believe this came from the IAH-AMS flight which was downgauged to a 764.

IAH-AMS hasn't been 772 for a couple of years. Once there were two daily flights, one a 764 and the other a 762. Fleet utilization is super-tight with CO now....their fleet-planning dept must be drooling over how to deploy the combined UA-CO aircraft.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5844 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6779 times:

Quoting Schweigend (Reply 13):
their fleet-planning dept must be drooling over how to deploy the combined UA-CO aircraft.

Not really; as has been established, UA and CO compete on ZERO international routes. So it's not like all of a sudden someone at a desk will have an extra five 747s to deal with. The routes being flown will continue to be flown, unless either carrier jumps out of that city.


User currently offlineSchweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 621 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6712 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 14):
Not really; as has been established, UA and CO compete on ZERO international routes. So it's not like all of a sudden someone at a desk will have an extra five 747s to deal with. The routes being flown will continue to be flown, unless either carrier jumps out of that city.

You are right--I should have said "re-deploy". Like UA 747s plying IAH-NRT, and CO 764s and 77Es going to current UA routes.


User currently offlineCOGlobeTrotter From United States of America, joined May 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6638 times:

Quoting Schweigend (Reply 13):
IAH-AMS hasn't been 772 for a couple of years.

I was in AMS last summer and my flight to EWR was parked next to CO's 777 to IAH.


User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6406 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 14):
So it's not like all of a sudden someone at a desk will have an extra five 747s to deal with.

Actually...they might - doesn't UA have some 744s stored in the desert. Never the less, your point is valid and accurate. It will be interesting to see to what extent the combined route map is right-sized. Me personally, I think there will be alot more fleet shifting on the domestic side with Continental's gap of aircraft between ERJs and 735s.

I wonder how this large influx of birds from Seattle at one time will alter their routes?



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6081 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 14):
So it's not like all of a sudden someone at a desk will have an extra five 747s to deal with.
Quoting drerx7 (Reply 17):
Actually...they might - doesn't UA have some 744s stored in the desert.

UA has 6-8 747-400s that were recently parked, one was just brought back into service recently. If they bring back the others to enable CO/UA to place them on EWR-NRT and IAH-NRT that would be helpful.



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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2649 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5650 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 14):
Quoting Schweigend (Reply 13):
their fleet-planning dept must be drooling over how to deploy the combined UA-CO aircraft.

Not really; as has been established, UA and CO compete on ZERO international routes. So it's not like all of a sudden someone at a desk will have an extra five 747s to deal with. The routes being flown will continue to be flown, unless either carrier jumps out of that city.

It's not the internationally flown aircraft that CO's planners want. Sure, they can redeploy and right size some markets by swapping around 752, 762, 763, 764, 772A, 772E and 744 aircraft, but UA flies a lot of widebodies on Hawaii and domestically. At least a few of us on A-net think the 753 and take over for at least some selected 763 operations to free up some widebodies to upgrade 752 TATL and for new TATL services from EWR, IAD, ORD and IAH.


User currently offlinebonusonus From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks ago) and read 5425 times:

That fleet plan document says that CO is adding three 753s to the fleet. Where are these a/c coming from? Seems strange at a time when many airlines are looking to phase out their 757s.

Edit: where did they come from, since they are probably operating by now.

[Edited 2010-07-13 06:45:57]

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks ago) and read 5329 times:

Quoting bonusonus (Reply 20):
That fleet plan document says that CO is adding three 753s to the fleet. Where are these a/c coming from? Seems strange at a time when many airlines are looking to phase out their 757s.

Edit: where did they come from, since they are probably operating by now.

They are former ATA 757-300s that have been parked since ATA ceased operations, ATA formerly operated 12 757-300s All 12 are now with CO. CO took delivery of their own 9 757-300s from Boeing, around 2005 they acquired 8 757-300s from ATA. When ATA folded CO took delivery of the remaining 4 former ATA 757-300s which are all operational now with CO.

CO has 21 757-300s, 9 came new from Boeing and 12 were former ATA.



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User currently offlinejoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5028 times:

CO had an afternoon 737 flight from OMA-IAH starting this fall. It would have been the second daily mainline flight on this route. It showed up for several months but it was eliminated about a month ago before it started. Could it be that it was eliminated because of the 9 737's? I wonder if it will show up again?

User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6577 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4638 times:

Thanks for all the replies and thanks for the info, RobK!

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3675 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4134 times:

Quoting Schweigend (Reply 13):

IAH-AMS hasn't been 772 for a couple of years.

For a period after CO left SkyTeam, CO upgauged IAH-AMS to a 772. I guess it was short-lived as IAH-FRA was to have been on a 762, then upped to a 764, and is now a 772.



The journey of life is not based on the accomplishments, but the experience.
25 AA737-823 : Now THAT would get me excited!!! I think you're exactly right. I, for one, would love to see a tremendous reduction in ERJ flying. I like them alrigh
26 Post contains images RobK : 519 16 Aug 520 16 Aug 521 16 Aug 522 20 Aug 523 25 Aug 524 25 Aug 525 21 Aug 526 18 Aug 527 20 Aug
27 antoniemey : Interesting that they're not being delivered in order...
28 The777Man : Thanks RobK! The777Man
29 iahcsr : The normal procedure is for new 737s to fly to MCO for 'Introduction' ... a six/seven day process that, for the 738, includes installing the winglets.
30 Schweigend : Sorry bout that--I stand corrected. Talkin bout a pretty 777--ever seen one in KLM colors? Maybe when the 74M stops flying to IAH, we'll see one of t
31 Post contains links BACCALA : Continental will take delivery of two new Boeing 777 aircraft outfitted with the flat-bed seats by the end of July. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Con
32 AA737-823 : Sigh, yes I have. Sadly, I was stuck on a KL A332 (which is, in fairness, a very nice airplane) instead of their 772. To IAH though, I'd much rather
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