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A380s At JNB  
User currently offlinexzavierrsa From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 31 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7819 times:

Now with AF/LH now flying the A380 in to JNB what's the likelihood of a 3rd/4th/5th? With BA and VS already having orders for the 380 and the possibility of SA leasing 1 or 2, is it feasible to have 5 380s a day out of JNB? With BA, still keeping 2 flights a day one 380 and the other 772?

[Edited 2010-07-12 17:23:37 by srbmod]

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User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7713 times:

Considering EK operates 3 X daily to DXB,there's a good possibility that they will put the A380 on the route. BA is a another candidate a few years from now. I don't foresee VS operating the A380 in their fleet,irrespective of the outstanding order.

User currently offlinecv990Coronado From South Africa, joined Nov 2007, 336 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7373 times:
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BA has never operated the 777 to JNB as far as I know it was used for one winter to Cape Town. I can see a BA 380 to JNB one day I think they would operate 1 x 380 and 1 x 744. Maybe they would drop the third flight which only operates about 3 day a week. The 772 is too small and not the best ex hot and Hi JNB with the kind of loads BA have.


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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7409 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7260 times:

Quoting xzavierrsa (Thread starter):
Now with AF/LH now flying the A380 in to JNB

Actually, only AF is flying Daily its A380 to JNB. LH doesn't ... The just operated a special flight for the soccer World Cup


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8281 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6907 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 3):
Actually, only AF is flying Daily its A380 to JNB. LH doesn't ... The just operated a special flight for the soccer World Cup

Currently yes however from Oct 25th LH will operate the A380 3x weekly on the FRA-JNB route. It's already bookable. The question of who the 3rd, 4th, etc, operator will be is still valid. Personally the obvious 3rd is EK and then BA.


User currently onlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5378 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6821 times:

I would be inclined to think that every airline that can possibly fill an A380 on its JNB services will eventually use one.

First, JNB services from most places in the north tend to be very time-inefficient, and run at roughly the same times. Better to tie up fewer aircraft, rather than wasting more on largely unnecessary frequencies.

Second, the A380 is the best widebody currently available for hot/high conditions, thanks to those enormous wings and its 4 engines. It's better for JNB than the 744 or A346 and much better than the widebody twins.

[Edited 2010-07-13 04:41:27]

User currently offlineDeltaB757TUS From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6304 times:

Not to get off topic but I was just wondering how would the new B748i do out of JNB?


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User currently offlinecv990Coronado From South Africa, joined Nov 2007, 336 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5815 times:
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I would think they would do very well. If Lufthansa are going to use the 380 in our summer I would think the 748 would be ideal in the winter when the demand is less. They often need more seats than the 744 but maybe the 380 would be too much in winter.


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User currently offlineCyba From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5308 times:

Quoting 9252fly (Reply 1):
Considering EK operates 3 X daily to DXB,there's a good possibility that they will put the A380 on the route.

I agree with you that this is a possibility though if I were EK I'd absorb additional demand to JNB by opening new routes to southern Africa. They've already done that with CPT and DUR (and to some extent LAD). I wouldn't be surprised to see LUN/ HRE/ GBE within 5 years.


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4216 times:
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Quoting xzavierrsa (Thread starter):
the possibility of SA leasing 1 or 2

Don't get excited.



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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8323 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2730 times:
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Quoting xzavierrsa (Thread starter):
Now with AF/LH now flying the A380 in to JNB what's the likelihood of a 3rd/4th/5th? With BA and VS already having orders for the 380 and the possibility of SA leasing 1 or 2, is it feasible to have 5 380s a day out of JNB? With BA, still keeping 2 flights a day one 380 and the other 772?

It would be a very bad decision for SAA to get 1 or 2 A380 just for having them. Many airlines fly 744's to South Africa, and SAA decided to sell there because the A340 was better for al their long haul flights not just LHR which would be the only place for teh A380 to make sense.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1879 times:

I'm surprised QF ain't a possible candidate once both SYD to LHR and MEL to LHR flights become daily...

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