n88kb From Australia, joined Jun 2010, 53 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4185 times:
I flew BA JFK-LGW a couple of years ago and was quite surprised that was no waiting for take off. We taxied to 22R and departed straight away. The time was around 6pm and I thought this would of being peak time for JFK. Even the pilot announced that we would have to wait for at least 30 mins. Could the flight be fast tracked in any way?
panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4711 posts, RR: 25 Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4113 times:
On good days at peak departure times (evening), when the winds are favorable, JFK uses two runways for takeoffs (usually the combination of 31L and 22R). Eastbound European departures would usually use 22R while westbound and southbound departures would use 31L. This speeds things up considerably and usually means anywhere from 10 to 25 minutes of taxi time.
Three years ago, I was on an LT flight JFK-DUS (at the time it was still LT). We had been delayed at the gate for some reason or other and were then given a priority taxi for some reason. In any event, we waited for a three or four a/c to take off, and then when we were first in line, they changed runways. We went from first...to last.
But as panamair was saying, there were probably two runways in use on the day of your flight.
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dartland From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 641 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3185 times:
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 5): I love the JFK Conga Line because there is nothing like it in teh world. Is it charming, no, its like George Steinbrenner and the Yankees, a very New York type of thing.
Awesome quote. As a New Yorker and Yankees fan -- I agree completely.
Quoting MadDogJT8D (Reply 6): Trust me, when you've sat in the JFK Conga line enough times (for both departure and arrival), it loses its romance quite quickly!
Also very true. Nothing quite like the words "we are 48th in line for take-off" to induce a collective groan from the passengers.
Of course the best thing about the departure delays at JFK is that when there is no line, you land at your destination way in advance. One Saturday evening JFK-LAX on VX we pulled into the gate at LAX 75 minutes early. I guess VX didn't adjust their schedules for Saturday flights when the line is generally much shorter.
jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7816 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3142 times:
But teh opposite is also true, if you take a morning or very early afternoon flight out of JFK there is no wait ( most of teh time).
Once, going to Colombia to a wedding, connecting in Miami on AA( I avoided LGA like a plague), the JFK to MIA flight on an A300 had a no hassle taxi( it was a long way though, JFK runways are long) and no wait to take-off, it was lunchtime.
LXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2112 posts, RR: 4 Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3078 times:
One thing is for sure JFK is a mess during peak hours because in my optinion the FAA or whoever is in charge of the traffic coordination do not have things under control. I mean it is a joke if supposedly a thunderstorm is miles and miles away and the whole airport almost colapses by delaying departures and arrivals drastically.
dc10srule From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 172 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3019 times:
Quoting LXA340 (Reply 9): One thing is for sure JFK is a mess during peak hours because in my optinion the FAA or whoever is in charge of the traffic coordination do not have things under control. I mean it is a joke if supposedly a thunderstorm is miles and miles away and the whole airport almost colapses by delaying departures and arrivals drastically.
LXA340 - keep in mind that there are 2 other very busy airports in the vicinity (LGA, EWR) that severely constrict the ability of JFK to make unilateral runway changes (to avoid weather) without affecting those other operations.
I agree that operations may grind to a halt during adverse weather but, unlike most other airports, JFK has a very unique setup that defies creativity and ad hoc runway changes.
Air France can tell you a thing or two about operations in and around thunderstorms. Any delay is a small price to pay to arrive safely at the other end wouldn't you agree?
TWA757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 176 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2962 times:
My cousin was flying JFK-AUS on B6 on Monday night. Her flight was supposed to leave just after 8 pm and it didn't take off until just before 12:30 am, putting her into Austin just before 3 am CST. I didn't envy her that night. I know there were also weather issues earlier in the week, but I'm sure Monday nights at JFK are also terrible anyway.
jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7816 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2759 times:
Part of the problem at JFK today maybe JetBlue. The last few times flying out of JFK during the " Inernational push" there were as many JB A320's as Delta 767's. JB could be encouraged to have less evening flights since it doesn't fly to Europe. There should be an adjustment of the peak time costs to favor widebodied airplanes.
CXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1509 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2734 times:
Quoting TWA757 (Reply 11): I'm sure Monday nights at JFK are also terrible anyway
Based on personal experience, Thursday-Saturday is a lot worse-Mondays usually tend to be fairly sane.
The post-peak period, when some of the delayed flights take off, can also be quite problematic. I was on the CX JFK-YVR-HKG two years ago, and our 10:50pm departure was stuck behind some leftover traffic.
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