MSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5690 times:
The morning flight on MEM-YYZ went from daily service to X347 two days ago, and will be discontinued altogether on September 4. It's currently scheduled to come back on November 7, but we'll see if that happens. The second flight...4:20pm departure...is still operating daily for the foreseeable future. This was always sort of a head scratcher of a route considering DL flies it twice daily as well, but if they can make it work, good for them.
EWRandMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5677 times:
Could it be that more Americans from southern states want to visit Toronto and use DL to connect through MEM than there are Canadians wanting to visit MEM? That may very well be why DL appears to make their MEM-YYZ service work.
yegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1733 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5349 times:
AC has a super hub at YYZ and wants to fight for market share. Having lived for 8 years (from 2001 to 2009) in Toronto and traveled extensively for work, I can tell you that AC has a huge entrenched brand in the business community.
AC recently launched flights to secondary destinations (Portland, Maine, Ontario, CA, etc....) and they will flight tooth and nail for their turf. The Memphis market is probably too tiny for AC and picking a fight with DL is nowhere near fighting WJ on their recently announced MSY service, but AC can make things work though its higher fares and its Toronto based loyal community.
JetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5100 times:
There is no advertisment they are here.I would not have know they were here had i not seen it posted on airliners and i travel often. No Television, or Newspaper ads that ive seen. I couldnt tell you what a/c they even fly in here.
Do they just throw planes on routes with no visability in a city
steex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1840 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks ago) and read 4921 times:
Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter): This was always sort of a head scratcher of a route considering DL flies it twice daily as well, but if they can make it work, good for them.
The addition was made by AC after DL had canceled MEM-YYZ, so there was a period with no service at all on the route. DL only re-added MEM-YYZ with 2x daily CR9's in response to AC's 2x daily CRJ's. That is a decent increase in capacity on the route from DL alone, as going back to NW days, MEM-YYZ was generally 2x daily 50-seaters.
It's also interesting that they went with CR9's on MEM-YYZ considering that, at the time, ATL-YYZ was the only other DL route with first class service to YYZ. Even that was only 1x daily CR9 (mixed in with a bunch of CR7's, which had no FC at the time), while service from MSP, DTW, JFK, and CVG was all 50-seaters. So essentially, there were twice as many FC seats on MEM-YYZ as there were into YYZ from the entire remainder of DL's network.
CRJ 900 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 604 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2130 times:
I work these flights often, the outbound flt from MEM-YYZ in the morning has pathetic loads.....we've gone to YZ with 1 pax onboard. I've often wondered how they could justify that many flts and even RONs, when BNA only gets 2 turns a day with no RONS. Only a matter of time I think before we see MEM go the same way. To be honest, I'd far rather have an overnight in BNA than MEM.
sirloin From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1813 times:
Perhaps this may warrant its own thread, but I'm curious, what is it with all the regional jets on YYZ flights, even from other major cities? Toronto isn't exactly a small city by any stretch of the imagination, and yet it seems like an overwhelming amount of flights between YYZ and the US are on small aircraft. Is there really not that much of a market?
It more comes down to frequency. Going to NYC for instance you will see lots of smaller aircraft, however flights leaving frequently... So instead of say 5 321 sized aircraft per day, you can have 10 E175s and cover the day with more flights. It's the same everywhere for some airports having a couple a day in an CRJ is better than having 1 320 etc...
usflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2356 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1671 times:
Quoting sirloin (Reply 15): Perhaps this may warrant its own thread, but I'm curious, what is it with all the regional jets on YYZ flights, even from other major cities? Toronto isn't exactly a small city by any stretch of the imagination, and yet it seems like an overwhelming amount of flights between YYZ and the US are on small aircraft. Is there really not that much of a market?
YYZ has crazy high landing fees so carriers often use the lightest aircraft possible.