Quote: FARNBOROUGH, United Kingdom, July 19 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) and GE Capital Aviation Services (GECAS), the commercial aircraft leasing and financing arm of General Electric (NYSE: GE), today announced an order for 40 Next-Generation 737-800s.
The order is valued at approximately $3 billion at average list prices.
"We are pleased to announce this Boeing order and the further growth of our fleet," said Norman C.T. Liu, president and CEO of GECAS. "Over the years, GECAS has successfully leased many 737s to airlines around the world."
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 10443 posts, RR: 20 Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7053 times:
Looks like the leasing industry isn't afraid to take up more 737 NGs in the face of whatever else Boeing may be planning. And of course a Boeing VP is more than glad to hammer that point home:
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"Today's announcement with GECAS reaffirms the Boeing Next-Generation 737 as a highly successful asset, both in operation with airlines as well as in the financial community," said Marlin Dailey, vice president of Sales for Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "GECAS has more than 300 Next-Generation 737s in its fleet with another 105 to be delivered to lessees, including today's announcement."
So much for the theory that the next big 737 order "must" be for the fabled clean-sheet or re-engined 737RS.
SEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6256 posts, RR: 39 Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6923 times:
Quoting Revelation (Reply 2): So much for the theory that the next big 737 order "must" be for the fabled clean-sheet or re-engined 737RS.
Airlines (and leasing companies) have to worry about flying passengers today and tomorrow, not just 5 to 10 years into the future. If Boeing launches the 737RS, it will probably be 10 to 15 years before they are readily available (i.e. within a couple of years of order placement); with a 373NEO it will be less, but still a significant delay. In the meantime, the 737 and A320 are still the best available for what they do.
The problem with making things foolproof is that fools are so doggone ingenious...Dan Keebler
rheinwaldner From Switzerland, joined Jan 2008, 2060 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6815 times:
Congratulations to Boeing for that order!
Quoting Revelation (Reply 2): So much for the theory that the next big 737 order "must" be for the fabled clean-sheet or re-engined 737RS.
I have not seen such a theory. Those planes not only have to bridge the time until new designs will have EIS (which alone can take a decade from now) but also the time until production ramp up meets the demand. IMO the new NB's will generate so much pre-EIS orders that for years the demand will have to be met by older models.
SEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6256 posts, RR: 39 Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6033 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 15): ...that's probably a smart move but you know I like to keep the record straight...
There is no such thing as a straight record. They are almost always round.
The problem with making things foolproof is that fools are so doggone ingenious...Dan Keebler
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 10443 posts, RR: 20 Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5946 times:
I can't dig it up right now, but recent threads here on a.net have suggested exactly such a thing. I thought it ridiculous at the time, so ridiculous I didn't bother trying to shoot it down, for the very same reasons you and SEPilot give.
Quoting slz396 (Reply 11): So you just 'assume' things to mean what they actually don't, just because they are posted by certain members...
When certain members have a track record of comparing the recent 787 tail issue caught during production to the Comet's two in-flight breakups with paying passengers on board, and never recanting such statements, well, certain members do lose credibility...
Norcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1277 posts, RR: 12 Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5172 times:
Quoting CFBFrame (Reply 7): Did some posts get removed from this thread? Might be late to this one, but history has been lost!!!
Sure did. Just read Revelations statement below and that should say it all
Quoting Revelation (Reply 6): When certain members have a track record of comparing the recent 787 tail issue caught during production to the Comet's two in-flight breakups with paying passengers on board, and never recanting such statements, well, certain members do lose credibility...
CFBFrame From United States of America, joined May 2009, 531 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4951 times:
My theory on the big 737 orders is, if you see a flurry of orders you know that the program is coming to the end of its days. Customers are buying to have ample lift to cover the transition. The new leasing company would not be a customer to monitor, but if more orders like this show up over the next 6 months you know the end is near for the current config.
Totally off topic, but something I thought that was very interesting/strange, there is a supplier out there right now offering engine mounts for both airframers reengined models. The supplier has close links to Pratt and Whitney, so something is in the wind. Don't ask, because I'll never share the company's name.
glideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1541 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3451 times:
Quoting CFBFrame (Reply 9): Totally off topic, but something I thought that was very interesting/strange, there is a supplier out there right now offering engine mounts for both airframers reengined models. The supplier has close links to Pratt and Whitney, so something is in the wind. Don't ask, because I'll never share the company's name.
Agreed. I think we will see the Pratt GTF on the NG in the future. Perhaps even the not too distant future?
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