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AA And JetBlue Announce FF Partnership  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32899 posts, RR: 71
Posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 12447 times:

As expected following the interline relationship, American Airlines and JetBlue today announced that AAdvantage and TrueBlue members will be able to earn miles on their respective program of choice on the interline routes.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Americ...ue-prnews-1435667881.html?x=0&.v=1

The press release does not make it clear, however, if one is required to be an interline passenger to earn miles, or if just flying an interline route without making a connection can earn the miles.

I am hearing this is only step one and that a far more comprehensive FF partnership and codeshare is in the works and could be announced in the fall.

[Edited 2010-07-19 06:06:47]


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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11712 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12269 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
As expected following the interline relationship, American Airlines and JetBlue today announced that AAdvantage and TrueBlue members will be able to earn miles on their respective program of choice on the interline routes.

Very, very cool.

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
I am hearing this is only step one and that a far more comprehensive FF partnership and codeshare is in the works and could be announced in the fall.

I have heard the same, and do expect that - barring any unforeseen changes - something larger is in the works, and to possibly include BA as well.

The combination of AA and JetBlue - particularly in the New York market - would be quite the powerhouse force, particularly because their strategic strengths, both in that specific market and network-wide, are highly complimentary: in many cases, AA is particularly strong in places where JetBlue either isn't, or isn't present, and vice versa JetBlue excels in many areas where AA has a very weak presence or isn't even present. Combining that network complimentarity would be quite an impressive force - and probably able to rival Continental (soon to be United) over at Newark.


User currently offlineflavio340 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12269 times:

OK MAH4546, how much longer before AA buys B6 for total domination of JFK?

User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6330 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12157 times:

Quoting flavio340 (Reply 2):
OK MAH4546, how much longer before AA buys B6 for total domination of JFK?

Hopefully the same day they start MCI-JFK service...please?


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3756 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12116 times:

Quoting flavio340 (Reply 2):
OK MAH4546, how much longer before AA buys B6 for total domination of JFK?

But will DL buy AS first for total domination of SEA and LAX?   

I feel that yes, we probAAbly will see an AA/B6 merger to beef up AA at JFK/BOS/LGA. This codeshare will only be a first step. But it will only happen if DL buys AS, locking out an AA/AS merger, which probably will happen given DL's "four corners" (JFK/LGA, ATL, LAX, SEA) plan.



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User currently offlineisitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12056 times:

Quoting flavio340 (Reply 2):

I'm with you . I smell a merger here. Come back Labor Day of 2011 and see if any announcments were or will be made.
safe



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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11712 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11946 times:

I'm not so sure if a merger is as "in the cards" as some might expect.

I certainly wouldn't rule it out long-term, but I don't think it will happen quite so soon, since the political climate and current state of AMR labor relations would make it quite a challenge. Plus, as has been discussed at length previously, elevating JetBlue's operations to AMR's costs would render a substantial portion of the present JetBlue - including especially lots of the Boston and Florida flying - unprofitable.

So, essentially, you'd have AA buying JetBlue solely for the JFK slots - which are, of course, quite valuable economically and strategically. But worth all the money, time, effort, energy and labor toxicity of a full merger? I'm not sure - at least not in the immediate short-term.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11876 times:

Mergers are costly some and many times counter-productive.

As mentioned, AA's cost structure is much higher than B6's. Getting AA/BA to work extensively with B6 and possibly into OneWorld would be much better. It gives B6 the autonomy and flexibility it needs to make the complementary AA (and BA) routes work.

Many here believed that since LH has a stake in B6, it wouldn't be able to work/co-ordinate extensively with OneWorld partners-to that I (along with others) have been saying "bullocks"...and this news has proven to be true.



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User currently offlineisitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11873 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 6):


Look at it this way. AA cuts partnership with BLUE. They do it BEFORE someone else does.
The slots are important but I agree, the routes are not that lucrative...FLA is a tourist trip and they want cheap.
So, BLUE accommodates them. I was little quick on Labor Day 2011. Let me re phase and push back to
Labor Day 2012. Me thinks by then, an announcement would have been made.
safe   



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User currently onlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7644 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11826 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 7):

As mentioned, AA's cost structure is much higher than B6's. Getting AA/BA to work extensively with B6 and possibly into OneWorld would be much better.

This.

AA doesnt need to buyout B6. Its better to have extensive agreements with them and offer their customers all the benefits.



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User currently offlineflyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11819 times:

Would it be possible to see a OW membership for B6 and some sort of domestic ATI for AA/B6, assuming AA labor didnt go ballistic? Or would the DOT squash something like that?


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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11712 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11685 times:

Quoting isitsafenow (Reply 8):
AA cuts partnership with BLUE. They do it BEFORE someone else does.

But who else? Who else is going to buy into or lock up B6? I just don't see another major U.S. carrier out there who would want to - or would be able to - do that.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 9):
This.

AA doesnt need to buyout B6. Its better to have extensive agreements with them and offer their customers all the benefits.

  

AA doesn't really need to buy B6 outright in order to get most of the benefits of this deal. Sure, there will be the revenue leakage to B6 on overlapping routes since, if given the choice and the ability to earn/burn miles and pay a lower fare, there are tons of people - especially Y flyers - who would much rather fly B6 domestic over AA. But, that being said, the deal would still be worthwhile even given that.

Plus, if, indeed, AA needs to conserve cash to buy into and/or protect some alliance, I'd say it's better to save money and not buy B6 - which doesn't seem to be going anywhere, isn't likely to be tying up with any other U.S. carrier, and seems genuinely interested in deepening their AA ties - and instead put those resources towards trying to buy into and lock up AS/QX if required (which, by the way, I'm still not convinced will be).

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 10):
Would it be possible to see a OW membership for B6

Not only is it possible, but in fact I suspect that is precisely what some or all of the parties involved here are working towards. Indeed, I suspect AA and BA have already broached that topic with B6, and I'm sure both would probably love for B6 to join.

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 10):
some sort of domestic ATI for AA/B6, assuming AA labor didnt go ballistic? Or would the DOT squash something like that?

That's a big assumption, since labor would go ballistic. As for regulatory approval: regulators approving system-wide (i.e., including domestic) ATI for AA/B6 would effectively be the same as them reviewing and approving a merger since, frankly, once you get to the point of system-wide/domestic ATI, that basically is a merger. Then you get into the questions of whether regulators would approve an AA-B6 full-out merger, and with what concessions required.


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11685 times:

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 10):
Would it be possible to see a OW membership for B6 and some sort of domestic ATI for AA/B6, assuming AA labor didnt go ballistic? Or would the DOT squash something like that?

I'm sure that ATI could be in the works eventually. I'm sure both sides wish to see how everything pans out over the next twelve to eighteen months.
- CO/UA merger changing US Domestic landscape
- continued Marginalization of US Airways in *Alliance- future unknown
- AA- JBV with IB and BA
- AA- ATI with BA, IB, AY and RJ
- AA- ATI with JL
- Other oneworld "partners" or potential future partners in GOL, AS and WS.
- AA's labour issues
- AA's other cost issues
- AA's network expansion, reshuffling due to ATI etc

All of these issues will have or are having some bearing on the AA/ B6 partnership.

I think that the BOS/JFK relationship will grow to system/ network wide with full ATI eventually. I don't see A buying B6 outright. Maybe taking a stake in the airline, oneworld membership, and like mentioned before full ATI across their networks.


Just my 2 cents!
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User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 792 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11480 times:

Hmmm ... with Jet Blue in T5 and expanding into the soon-to-be demolished T6 area, BA owning T7 (looking at new terminal expansion of T8), and AA with T8 I wonder what BA's play is going to be with T7?

It seems to me OW/B6 would be foolish to break up a potential monopoly on T5,T7,T8 - essentially having control over half of the real estate for gate space at JFK and the potential of creating a OW SuperTerminal with connectors between these terminals.

Maybe AA/BA in T8, with condition of all remaining OW airlines (including those other than AA now using T8) move into T7, and B6 with new T5/6 ?


User currently offlineBD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 711 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11394 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 4):
I feel that yes, we probAAbly will see an AA/B6 merger to beef up AA at JFK/BOS/LGA

..instantly destroying the whole concept of B6 and the differentiators they bring to the market, and B6 becomes nothing more than a series of routes for AA. Having said, I just don't see it happening, a lot can be gained through a partnership without incurring the costs of an acquistion (let's be honest it won't be a merger if it occurs)


User currently offlineMcMax From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11247 times:

One city I see missing from the list of AA/B6 interline destinations: Long Beach (LGB). AA closed its LGB station years back. Perhaps LGB wasn't included because: (1) it's a hub for B6, (2) it could siphon traffic away from AA's LAX transcon to JFK, and/or (3) this agreement is only meant to focus on the East Coast (and is not supposed to provide benefits to intra-West Coast travel).


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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11712 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11221 times:

Quoting McMax (Reply 15):
(1) it's a hub for B6, (2) it could siphon traffic away from AA's LAX transcon to JFK, and/or (3) this agreement is only meant to focus on the East Coast (and is not supposed to provide benefits to intra-West Coast travel).

It's more (1) and (2) methinks.

I don't think AA really has any hangups about the geographical scope of this partnership with JetBlue (i.e., only East Cost, etc.). I think it's more that, since they don't have a revenue-sharing agreement at this point, B6's LGB flights definitely do compete with AA's LAX flights, and thus AA doesn't want to encourage any more AA FFs than necessary to use B6's flights (with better service, etc.).


User currently offlineDFWEagle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1074 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11203 times:

Quoting McMax (Reply 15):
One city I see missing from the list of AA/B6 interline destinations: Long Beach (LGB). AA closed its LGB station years back. Perhaps LGB wasn't included because: (1) it's a hub for B6, (2) it could siphon traffic away from AA's LAX transcon to JFK, and/or (3) this agreement is only meant to focus on the East Coast (and is not supposed to provide benefits to intra-West Coast travel).

In addition to LGB, BUR, SJC and OAK are also missing because they are considered to "overlap" with LAX and SFO.



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6781 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11167 times:

Quoting crAAzy (Reply 13):
It seems to me OW/B6 would be foolish to break up a potential monopoly on T5,T7,T8 - essentially having control over half of the real estate for gate space at JFK and the potential of creating a OW SuperTerminal with connectors between these terminals.

The value of all that real estate is somewhat limited by the size of the slot portfolio of the oneworld carriers plus JetBlue. Additionally, an expansion of T4 and redevelopment of the T2/3 space, along with the current footprint in T1, will likely provide plenty of space for SkyTeam on the opposite side of the terminal area. Star Alliance is unlikely to build a large presence at JFK with the large CO/UA hub over at EWR.

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
The press release does not make it clear, however, if one is required to be an interline passenger to earn miles, or if just flying an interline route without making a connection can earn the miles.

My guess is that it probably does, as passengers are to be credited "when they fly only on the cooperative interline routes." That seems to imply that an interline itinerary is required.

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 10):
Would it be possible to see a OW membership for B6 and some sort of domestic ATI for AA/B6

The former seems likely, but the latter does not; I don't think there's any precedent for domestic anti-trust immunity short of an actual merger. Domestic ATI seems like it would be an extremely difficult sell to the federal government.


User currently offlineJFKPurser From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 486 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10920 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 7):
As mentioned, AA's cost structure is much higher than B6's. Getting AA/BA to work extensively with B6 and possibly into OneWorld would be much better. It gives B6 the autonomy and flexibility it needs to make the complementary AA (and BA) routes work.

This is true about the B6 cost structure. B6 has been in the drivers seat out of JFK as far as many fares are concerned as a direct result of this advantage. If AA does buy B6, it would be able to price fares on the former B6 routes to match the higher cost structure. Effectively, they would be buying up the competition.

On the other hand, rumors have been swirling that B6 and Eagle are destined to be combined in some manner for the purpose of feeding AA. This would perhaps circumvent some of the cost/labor issues that might otherwise bog down a AA/B6 merger.


User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5254 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10832 times:

Quoting JFKPurser (Reply 19):
On the other hand, rumors have been swirling that B6 and Eagle are destined to be combined in some manner for the purpose of feeding AA. This would perhaps circumvent some of the cost/labor issues that might otherwise bog down a AA/B6 merger.

A friend of mine is an AA pilot. He reminded me that 10 years ago, AA had a very large presence at BOS, including a sizeable Eagle operation. Part of the plan for the new terminal at JFK was to build up the Eagle operation for bringing in connecting traffic into New York from southern New England to the mid Atlantic region.

Not only does AA mainline have trouble competing with B6, but so does Eagle. Eagle has one of the highest cost structures among the regional carriers.

If AA can get significant traffic feed from B6 at BOS and JFK, as well as other airports in the East, then it doesn't need Eagle as a feeder.

What that means for the whole Eagle operaiton in the long run, it's hard to say.


User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11712 posts, RR: 62
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10812 times:

Quoting JFKPurser (Reply 19):
This is true about the B6 cost structure. B6 has been in the drivers seat out of JFK as far as many fares are concerned as a direct result of this advantage. If AA does buy B6, it would be able to price fares on the former B6 routes to match the higher cost structure. Effectively, they would be buying up the competition.

  

B6's structural cost advantage - over AA and DL - means they basically call the shots on fares in and out of JFK on many major routes. AA buying B6 would effectively buy out the competition, and allow AA to raise fares to a certain extent - but only to a certain level before markets couldn't sustain them.

Quoting JFKPurser (Reply 19):
On the other hand, rumors have been swirling that B6 and Eagle are destined to be combined in some manner for the purpose of feeding AA. This would perhaps circumvent some of the cost/labor issues that might otherwise bog down a AA/B6 merger.

Have heard that - and it sounds interesting/intriguing - but I can't help but think (hope) that if B6 were to be brought into the AMR fold somehow (which, again, I'm not necessarily predicting), man would it be nice if AA would adopt B6's domestic Y product - which is so vastly better than AA's.

Not to mention - it also begs the question about AA's long-term intentions for Eagle. They've said they want to monitize (offload) it, and they apparently sent in Garton (good luck) to do just that - but, for various reasons starting and ending with Eagle's higher-than-market costs, that is probably not going to be too successful. Perhaps they feel that combining it with JetBlue would help the combined enterprise' economics? Again - interesting/intriguing, but it is hard at least for me at this moment to imagine the path from here to there.


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7919 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10795 times:

I'm apparently slow in this area of the industry, but when did it go from DL vs AA vs B6 to AA and B6 allying together?


Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11712 posts, RR: 62
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10738 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 22):
I'm apparently slow in this area of the industry, but when did it go from DL vs AA vs B6 to AA and B6 allying together?

When AA and B6 announced - first back in March and then reaffirmed again today - that they are, indeed, "allying together" in one form or another.

 


User currently offlineflyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10663 times:

Quoting JFKPurser (Reply 19):
On the other hand, rumors have been swirling that B6 and Eagle are destined to be combined in some manner for the purpose of feeding AA. This would perhaps circumvent some of the cost/labor issues that might otherwise bog down a AA/B6 merger.

As an Eagle pilot currently sitting in the B6 terminal in JFK, I could only wish jetBlue would buy us! In all reality, I would expect Eagle to be spun off to another regional carrier that has more in common operationally as opposed to B6. But, who knows...



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25 Santi319 : Wow, the WORST airline of the USA partners with the best one, for the first time in 10 years, I see Jetblue making a big mistake.... I guess LH must b
26 FWAERJ : ORD is not included, either. Neither is LAX. Must be because ORD is an AA hub, and AA flies ORD-JFK daily. And, as mentioned earlier, AA probably doe
27 LAXdude1023 : Youre missing the point. To put if frankly (and as much as I hate to say it), B6 and AA are both scared s**tless of DL's expansion at JFK and also of
28 OA412 : I think that this gets at the crux of the problem. They know that working together is their best bet at combating the threat of a large DL at JFK, an
29 Post contains images Jacobin777 : It would be interesting to see how this would work out.....I'm curious about the cost potential structure though.. . Part of that reason was due to D
30 DeltaMD90 : What do the numbers add up as (DL vs UA/CO vs AA/B6?) Is it near even or are there winners/losers by a long shot?
31 commavia : Not sure of the exact numbers, but I believe AA+B6 combined do have more slots at JFK than DL. Neither, however, have as many flights as CO/UA have o
32 JFKPurser : Yes -- we have discussed this before and I totally agree. On most routes it would be a big hit with customers. But don't forget that AAdvantage junki
33 commavia : And I believe the answer is no. The dillution of the product is something I suspect AA would not be willing to tolerate, since they have so forcefull
34 IrishAyes : It is a tough one to answer indeed. Regardless, it is in AA/B6's best interest to come up with a standardized product fleet wide rather than breaking
35 IrishAyes : Exactly. AA has plenty of other things on its plate.
36 UALWN : One shouldn't forget that B6 has an extensive code-share agreement with LH... Just like AA did with TW and QQ, for instance.
37 rampart : I surely hope not (merger/acquisition, that is). AA has devoured too many of my favored airlines -- AirCal, Reno, TWA. Consolidation. Woo hoo. -Rampa
38 DFWEagle : That’s great, but the only way jetBlue really derives any meaningful revenue from that relationship is from the passengers that LH feeds onto their
39 ScottB : Delta's history with Song -- essentially their attempt to copy/improve on JetBlue -- says that dropping domestic first class won't work. The increase
40 Jacobin777 : While not "true F-class" etc the 38' pitch isn't too bad at all. Look how well WN is doing now in attracting business pax. Getting directly from A to
41 Post contains images DFWEagle : Also, LH only owns around 15% of jetBlue, so even if they did have other strategic objectives, the other 85% of shareholders will still demand that B
42 TX2FL : I'm wondering if Selling Eagle and then Eagle combining with B6 would be an option?
43 commavia : But what would be the strategic point of that for AA/AMR? AA wants something - B6's JFK slots. They also don't want something - Eagle. Selling Eagle,
44 UALWN : As I have mentioned in other threats, that just cannot be true. LH is the largest owner of B6. They have a director on the board. They do matter a lo
45 DFWEagle : It was 19% to begin with but its since been diluted to 16%. The simple fact is LH owns a minority amount of the stock and so their power is limited.
46 JFKPurser : Not sure if I agree about WW3... It is against the AA pilots current SCOPE clause for B6 to feed AA flights. B6 would have to be merged completely in
47 McMax : Unless LH was granted additional votes for its 19% share, the rules of voting by shareholders on an issue like this is 1 vote per 1 share owned. Addi
48 Post contains images commavia : Hardly. As DFWEagle has said - LH is a minority shareholder that is only marginally larger than the largest institutional investor, and has neither t
49 airbazar : What makes people think it would be B6 buying AA and not the other way around? I can definitely see B6 buying out Eagle and becoming a strategic part
50 DFWEagle : I see it the other way around. Everything B6 provides to LH can be got from their joint venture partner CO at Newark. However, due to the lack of JFK
51 UALWN : May I ask you how do you know this? LH is the only airline who owns a substantial amount of a US airline. Of course. I would imagine that LH also wan
52 DFWEagle : I personally wouldn't say 16% is a substantial amount but I guess that's a matter of opinion. Exactly - that's why investors leave the running of the
53 commavia : Because they only hold about 15% of the company. By definition, that's a passive - i.e., non-controlling, non-managing - holding. And, by law, they a
54 Post contains images AA767400 : You being from Puerto Rico makes it a given to not liking AA. You have seen AA pull out of many markets, and lower their service standards. B6 is the
55 kiwiandrew : I think this is a no-lose situation for LH . If they retain their stake in B6 it is likely to appreciate in value with a tie-up . If AA want to buy a
56 UALWN : OK, let me rephrase it: no other airline owns more stock of a US airline. Just like the other investors, every one of them, have to convince even mor
57 commavia : Right, but here's the thing: you're the one suggesting that LH may part ways with management on what is best for the company. You're the one suggesti
58 PlanesNTrains : I think Commavia seems to sum it up pretty well here (in pieces): My question to UALWN would be: Why is it so important to prove that LH has such gre
59 MAH4546 : And to believe otherwise is to have no understanding of how corporations work. Lufthansa's investment in JetBlue is passive, by definition.[Edited 20
60 ridgid727 : I wonder if B6 will begin a couple of N/S from LGB to DFW with all those slots they have?
61 Jacobin777 : Carriers add and remove holdings from another company all the time. Also, with both the JV/ATI and IB merger completed, I wouldn't be surprised if BA
62 LAXdude1023 : That would be my dream!
63 Santi319 : I couldn't be more grateful to AA for leaving PR, they are simply horrible, and I would take NK or FL ANY day over AA, and this I can guarantee you i
64 Post contains images Jacobin777 : And adding codeshare/FF miles SJC-JFK as well...that would give me SJC-ORD/DFW/JFK/LAX for me....more than enough for my needs..
65 LAXdude1023 : No, you sound more like a spurned lover than an airline fan. Just like some of the CVG, STL, and PIT flyers. Its a wonder you guys dont get voodoo do
66 flymia : Awesome! It sure would be nice to be able to fly B6 and earn some AA miles.
67 Post contains links SCL767 : American Airlines And JetBlue: "Later this year, American's AAdvantage® members and JetBlue TrueBlue® members will be able to earn AAdvantage miles
68 UALWN : I'm sorry, but maybe you don't understand how corporations work. To believe that LH decided to buy 19% of B6 in order to get some interest is, well,
69 commavia : They bought it because they wanted to secure domestic U.S. distribution through New York. They no longer need it. It may have been strategic then, bu
70 UALWN : I basically agree. I would still object to calling their investment "small" and "passive", but anyway. Edited: my 1000th post! Do I get a prize??[Edi
71 Post contains images RL757PVD : Its about time Jet Blue comes to Rhode Island!
72 Icebird757 : This is Nantucket, MA. Wrong state buddy.
73 flyby519 : Sorry to change gears, but anyone know about Eagle dropping BOS-RDU service and B6 increasing frequency on that route?
74 RL757PVD : I know its MA, but apparently AA marketing does not!
75 BOStonsox : If AA marketing had anything to do with their route map, they don't even know where their hubs are (BOS is a hub?) I hope AA isn't dropping BOS-RDU,
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