brightcedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1276 posts, RR: 2 Posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 15224 times:
Several members including myself witnesses the bird strike or at least the stains resulting from a bird strike on the tail camera of Air France's Alpha A380 yesterday during climb on flight AF1980 between CDG and Heathrow.
As a joke, since many on this and other related forums find Air France's aircraft exterior cleanliness record to be somewhat questionnable, I think it would be nice of members to report the cleanliness status of the tail camera as they fly the bird... - Oh! Sorry, my mistake! ...plane in the coming days, weeks, months, dare I mention years?
This will give us some idea about Air France's procedures on the matter.
2010-JUL-18 AF1980 CDG-LHR Strike on tail, blood stains on camera
2010-JUL-19 AF1981 LHR-CDG Blood stains on camera still present
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comorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4677 posts, RR: 17 Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 15103 times:
Why wont flying the plane through rain clean it up? Is it the boundary-layer effect that prevents rain from acting like a giant car wash in the sky?
readytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14996 times:
Notify Air France's caterers, they will soon remove the debris.
you don't get a second chance to make a first impression!
EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14689 times:
Quoting comorin (Reply 1): Why wont flying the plane through rain clean it up?
Blood is very hard to get off once it dries. It takes more then just water
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
babybus From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3514 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 14126 times:
It was a shame for that bird just flying by at the wrong time. But what a way to go out, being hit by a A380 going at full tilt down the runway.
It was a surprise that a 550 mph wind couldn't clean the remains off the lens and also on the inbound I noticed it was raining and the rain didn't freeze despite being very high.
What a fantastic aircraft and it was nice to see it getting the international celebrity treatment it deserves.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 14078 times:
Quoting brightcedars (Thread starter): As a joke, since many on this and other related forums find Air France's aircraft exterior cleanliness record to be somewhat questionnable, I think it would be nice of members to report the cleanliness status of the tail camera as they fly the bird... - Oh! Sorry, my mistake! ...plane in the coming days, weeks, months, dare I mention years?
Do bidets come in superjumbo size?
Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5341 posts, RR: 11 Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 13889 times:
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3): Blood is very hard to get off once it dries. It takes more then just water
The best fluid available for cleaning birdstrikes? Saliva. I realize how weird I look as I'm out on the ramp spitting on a cloth and wiping bird blood off with it... but it's a LOT faster than any of the more... kosher alternatives.
Most solvents are either useless, or pull the paint off with the debris!
Anyhow, I see the humor in this thread, and think it's a great idea.
tim222 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2009, 87 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11545 times:
19th July was operated on CHARLIE not ALPHA as I hace photos and sat watching it before I boarded.
Are you sure about this because I flew on the A380 yesterday on AF1980 CDG-LHR 1025 on F-HPJC and on the tail camera in 51ABC there was NO blood stains on the shots from the tail camera neither were there on the main cabin screen...
so i don't know how that happened... as someone said are you sure it isn't a bug because it was not there on the way from Paris to London
Also I am guessing that your picture is from Sundays flight to London (you can clearly see T5 in the pic) as we landed on 27R yesterday not 27L and taxiied in round T3... Therefore I think there is confusion
soon7x7 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 2802 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 10292 times:
The high impact burns the blood into the paint...chemicals will "freeze" it into the topcoat surface...
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 6): The best fluid available for cleaning birdstrikes? Saliva.
That works if the goo is fresh enough...if it remains to be baked by the sun, it almost becomes part of the paint.
While on the subject...I once flew on a Delta 767 from JFK to EDDF and was amazed to see at sunrise that a pigeon POO that I saw on the wing the evening before...was still on the wing at 38,000 feet!...do pigeons eat epoxy for a diet? Much fibre...perhaps Boeing can make a N/G ship out of that!...A "7POO7"...
Emirates2005 From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 237 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 9890 times:
Rather than worrying about the cleanliness of their bird, Air France will soon enter emergency mode as PETA will demand them to ground all their A380 for being an accessory to bird homicide.
AOMlover From France, joined Jul 2001, 1297 posts, RR: 12 Reply 15, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 9545 times:
Quoting tim222 (Reply 10): 19th July was operated on CHARLIE not ALPHA as I hace photos and sat watching it before I boarded.
We're talking about AF1980 on the 18th of July. I suspect it was a birdstrike because the greyish stains on the left looked a bit like feathers, but it might have been a (big) bug strike.
tim222 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2009, 87 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 9413 times:
Quoting brightcedars (Thread starter): 2010-JUL-18 AF1980 CDG-LHR Strike on tail, blood stains on camera
2010-JUL-19 AF1981 LHR-CDG Blood stains on camera still present
Quoting AOMlover (Reply 15): We're talking about AF1980 on the 18th of July. I suspect it was a birdstrike because the greyish stains on the left looked a bit like feathers, but it might have been a (big) bug strike.
the original post states that it was the 18th paris-london AND 19th london-paris if you re read it and if the poster is talking about it being on the same plane on the 19th which I believe was yesterday flying from LHR-CDG then yesterday the aircraft must of come in from Paris and was CHARLIE not alpha and there was no blood on any tail camera
YULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2111 posts, RR: 6 Reply 18, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8973 times:
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 6): The best fluid available for cleaning birdstrikes? Saliva. I realize how weird I look as I'm out on the ramp spitting on a cloth and wiping bird blood off with it...
I'm sure AF would find plenty of AF and/or A380 haters on this forum who would be honored to do that job!!!
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6191 posts, RR: 79 Reply 20, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5963 times:
Quoting brightcedars (Thread starter): Several members including myself witnesses the bird strike or at least the stains resulting from a bird strike on the tail camera of Air France's Alpha A380 yesterday during climb on flight AF1980 between CDG and Heathrow.
As a joke, since many on this and other related forums find Air France's aircraft exterior cleanliness record to be somewhat questionnable, I think it would be nice of members to report the cleanliness status of the tail camera as they fly the bird... - Oh! Sorry, my mistake! ...plane in the coming days, weeks, months, dare I mention years?
Hi brightcedars, nice to see you have already started that thread as suggested!
Quoting babybus (Reply 4): What a fantastic aircraft and it was nice to see it getting the international celebrity treatment it deserves.
Yes, it was a pleasure to fly on the A380 between CDG and LHR - but it would have been a much more enjoyable event without that nerve-wracking delay - at least for me.
Quoting babybus (Reply 17): That bird strike was on Sunday 18 July. It was AF A380 Alpha.
For all those who are confused: There's simply a typo in brightcedars' post, he meant AF1981 on July 18.
Here are two pictures from the flight to LHR. This one was taken shortly after lift-off, only a few moments before the impact:
Unfortunately, due to turbulence I wasn't able to take a clear shot of the mysterious remains before the camera was switched off. The second shot was taken on approach shortly after the camera was switched on again:
25 babybus: Unless you've been on it you can't understand what a gigantic aircraft it is. It's more like boarding an ocean going cruise liner. And with all those
26 DocLightning: Makes perfect sense. Saliva contains lysozyme, which is an enzyme that basically breaks down just about anything.
27 PlaneHunter: Yes, I got the same email. Not bad actually! Well, if they had to check the door and certain systems it was justified to refer to a technical problem
28 AOMlover: Hello, I hope I get those 1000 bonus miles as well ! No news so far, although I'm a member of FB and the miles for the CDG-LHR and LHR-CDG legs have b
29 EI787: Flew Alpha today CDG-LHR and I can confirm that the camera is now clean!
30 atcsundevil: I could understand that, but at the same time, it is so huge it would probably land into its own ground effect like the 747. I suppose it's just a bi
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