BAfan From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 189 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 21668 times:
Sir Stelio's has given EasyJet 90 days to improve punctuality across it's network otherwise he will withdraw the licence of the 'easy' brand forcing Easyjet to change it's name and everything else in it's operations (uniforms, orange livery scheme)
nema From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 705 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 21495 times:
I have a lot of respect for Stelios and i do like the EasyJet model which i have used extensively. In fact ive flown to Athens with Stelios sat just behind me and i wished i had the bottle to chat with him, i guess he deserves his space though so i gave it a miss.
Not sure in the eyes of the law if he would be able to do this image withdrawal on these grounds, regardless of any contracts, if vigorously challenged which he would be by the current board.
There isnt really a dark side to the moon, as a matter of fact its all dark!
f4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 20899 times:
time keeping is a real issue . many flights cancelled and delayed due to a severe lack of crew.
The same thing happened when the last ceo left. drive down costs and cash your shares in before they leave.
The new ceo has a real mess to contend with and this will not help.
They can not use go because I understand they sold it last year .
I have heard rumuors that mr branson has offered the virgin brand free of charge if they lose the easy brand.
What would be weird if that happend and then stelios sold or leased the easy brand to someone else. It would get very confusing
varig md-11 From France, joined Jul 2000, 1578 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 20848 times:
Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 6): Long term it may better to drop the brand if this level of interference is to continue.
It may also be better to hire staff so that the first flight at 7.00am is not cancelled because "we have a crew shortage this morning" creating disorganization for the rest of the day
I am U2 frequent flyer but over the last 2 months I went back to AF because I am sick and tired of this comedy of flight cancelled and/or 3 hours late.
Each and every U2 flight I took recently had a taste of theatre
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varig md-11 From France, joined Jul 2000, 1578 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 20660 times:
Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 9): The last BRU-GVA flight of the day, operated by EasyJet Switzerland is always late, usually one hour behind schedule and sometimes, cancelled all together. Not very reliable.
How are you Air Malta
Add to that list the last CDG or ORY to NCE flight...
The last time they had the nerve to bus us around CDG2B to tell us "oops the crew has timed out because accumulating delays during the day" just while we were about to climb the lousy stairs!
Then go back home (RER B at night...) and do-it-yourself rebooking
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PilotRecruit From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 97 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 20647 times:
I used to work for easyJet and if they payed their crew in real money rather than bits of string and peanuts, they might actually at very least keep their crew and possibly attract more. I have many friends still there and morale is so low that something has to change or no matter how strong the model is a lack of effort by the crew will be detrimental to their success.
It's the perfect effect of the trickle down effect. There is massive disharmony at the top and as a result all the above listed issues become the norm.
"Whether you think you can or you can't, either way you're right." Henry Ford
GT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1752 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 20564 times:
Quoting PilotRecruit (Reply 13): I used to work for easyJet and if they payed their crew in real money rather than bits of string and peanuts, they might actually at very least keep their crew and possibly attract more. I have many friends still there and morale is so low that something has to change or no matter how strong the model is a lack of effort by the crew will be detrimental to their success.
Keeping crew isn't really a problem at the moment. Thats not the issue........and cabin crew atleast are amongst the best paid in the industry apart from the "old timer's" at BA. Thats when you take into account salary, sector pay and commission on everything we sell. Certainly I earn more than i ever did at GB.
offloaded From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 804 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 20385 times:
Quoting GT4EZY (Reply 14): Certainly I earn more than i ever did at GB.
Whilst I certainly miss GB, I remember the boss a few years ago telling staff that if they didn't like the pay at GB he could walk into Tesco and get replacements for them instantly, or something to that effect.
Rebranding is a huge risk for any SUCCESSFUL company. After spending millions over the years, the Easyjet brand is one of the best known out there. In fact, whilst Stelios threatens to withdraw the Easy name, may I dare to suggest that the Easy"JET" name props up his other "Easy" named ventures? Are even Easy Rent a Car or Easy Hotels still around? EasyJet is the only one I ever hear of.
Stelios is absolutely right to tell them to get their finger out on the punctuality issue though.
To no one will we sell, or deny, or delay, right or justice - Magna Carta, 1215
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4070 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 20217 times:
While poor time keeping my harm the easyJet brand, Stelios still has a big enough stake in U2 to go and pull the rug from under them. While the media frenzy around such a change would be massive and most people would probably get the message, the damage to the brand could be irreparable. In reality he is unlikely to go and crash the value of his shares (and loose out on a load of royalties)
p.s. Can I just thank the three ahead of me (PilotRecruit, GT4EZY adn offloaded): I love all of your footnote messages! Totally unrelated but just thought I'd show my appreciation
f4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 20000 times:
there are crew shortages because the attrition rate (amognst pilots anyway) has increased with people dissapointed with the way management is treating them. Also for the first time now theres somewhere recruiting emirates with 700 crew req.
I hear 40 pilots going from lgw base alone.
Some of the delays and cancelations are due to airport cerfews such as gva which closes. Others are down to days which are too close to max duty hours. These can be extended to a point but at crews choice. They cant do this every day though. And it also covers up the bigger problem of correct schedule and turn around times.
ohthedrama747 From UK - Scotland, joined Jan 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 19792 times:
Interesting statistic about the level of LGW flights delayed. We were flying to EDI from there on the day England played Germany and the flight was around an hour and a half late leaving. They stuck us all in a tiny gate which was extremely uncomfortable due to the heat.
This was due to a crew overrunning their hours. I sat next to a lady on the plane who was pretty pissed off about the whole thing and it came to a head when she couldn't get water from the flight attendants - they were disorganised and didn't have it to hand. As it turned out she tried to get on the flight the day before but the flight was cancelled and it took them 3 hours to organise a hotel for her.
I'm flying with them on Saturday from EDI - LGW and if they are late I'll hesitate to use them again. Thankfully I'm flying BA back up on Sunday. Good old 734!
normie999 From United Kingdom, joined May 2009, 141 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 19046 times:
The whole Easyjet story seems to be coming to a head. The S Times coverage has kept it on the agenda and their cancellation problems are being reported all over the place - Germany in particular. Lots more on the whole thing here: http://insidetraveller.co.uk/blog/?p=1096
25 Woof: About time the realities of flying EasyJet were out in the open on this forum. A large majority of FR threads contain posts from people saying how muc
26 aerofreakjens: I have travelled with easyJet quite a number of times over the past 3 - 4 years and have not experienced any big delays, other than once or twice beca
27 RyanairGuru: Woof, you're absolutely right EY is better than FR. But only because EY is Etihad!!! EasyJet is U2 and EZY. While FR-bashing is a very popular past-ti
28 BasilFawlty: Hooray for Stelios, good move! easyJet is a chaos and becoming more and more unreliable every day. Bases like LGW, LPL and MAD have serious crew short