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DL Gives MSY A Red-eye  
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6565 posts, RR: 51
Posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7417 times:

I think this is the first red-eye for MSY since CO's LAX-MSY red-eye with a 735 around 1995/1996. The new flight starts October 1. This flight has been in the schedules for a few weeks but the change to the red-eye was made with today's schedule load.


DL 1006 LAXMSY 0030 0607 73H 0

DL 2805 LAXMSY 1145 1727 320 0


Here's the return schedule...looks like the 73H will turn back to LAX from what I can tell.

DL 1039 MSYLAX 0715 0928 73H 0

DL 2804 MSYLAX 1850 2106 320 0

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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3426 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7096 times:

Did DL have 2x daily before also? If not good for MSY.


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User currently offlinewestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 747 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7085 times:

Intriguing - thanks for the bit about CO's 735. Will DL's red-eye be a daily service?


Jack @ AUS
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6565 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7036 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 1):
Did DL have 2x daily before also? If not good for MSY.

The second flight starts October 1.

Quoting western727 (Reply 2):
Intriguing - thanks for the bit about CO's 735. Will DL's red-eye be a daily service?

Yes it will.


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5412 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 6604 times:

I don't know if things have become a bit more stable with DL's schedules but for the summer ones, flights, times and equipment were changed practically weekly for months until only a few weeks before the actual effective date. (We had flights out of SAN that were switched from morning departures to red-eyes and back several times before finally settling in with the final version.)

All I wonder here is if this October schedule is the final -- actual -- version or not; it is still July and I would expect there to be lots of further revisions in the next 2+ months...

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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6565 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 6564 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 4):
I don't know if things have become a bit more stable with DL's schedules but for the summer ones, flights, times and equipment were changed practically weekly for months until only a few weeks before the actual effective date.

They really have...nearly weekly changes from what I've seen. In early July I booked a ticket to BOS for a wedding in October and I've already received two schedule change notifications. More are expected.  


User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4472 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4517 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
I think this is the first red-eye for MSY since CO's LAX-MSY red-eye with a 735 around 1995/1996.

Hey MsyTristar,



Great user name btw.



FYI Continental used to run redeyes from MSY-LAX in the 80's with B727's.



I know because I was the Second Officer (Flight Engineer) on many of those redeyes.



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User currently offlineflyingcat From United States of America, joined May 2007, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4452 times:

Does anybody here think that things may come to a head in MSYLAX. WN is adding a nonstop and now DL is going to 2x daily. UA meanwhile has been stronger than DL on this route with 2x for a while.

Does DL think they can change WN fleet plans or perhaps push UA out.


User currently onlineflyguy89 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1920 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

I think there's probably room for all three carriers on this route, one of them may have to toggle with their frequencies a bit but all three should ultimate do alright.

User currently offlineWestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 747 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2716 times:

Quoting flyingcat (Reply 7):
Does anybody here think that things may come to a head in MSYLAX. WN is adding a nonstop and now DL is going to 2x daily. UA meanwhile has been stronger than DL on this route with 2x for a while.

Intriguing. AA is a big player at LAX....and is unofficially the airline of choice for Hollywood's A-listers given the large number of LAX nonstops...or so I was told. So why not AA on the LAX-MSY?



Jack @ AUS
User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

Quoting Western727 (Reply 9):
Intriguing. AA is a big player at LAX....and is unofficially the airline of choice for Hollywood's A-listers given the large number of LAX nonstops...or so I was told. So why not AA on the LAX-MSY?

LOTS of connecting pax via the DFW hub. Plus UA also flies this route several times a day on the 320. I think it would be nearly over saturated with AA in the market.



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6565 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2647 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 10):
LOTS of connecting pax via the DFW hub. Plus UA also flies this route several times a day on the 320. I think it would be nearly over saturated with AA in the market.

I agree. While I suspect DL, UA, and WN will all co-exist, one more carrier would probably lead to a "too many cooks spoil the broth" scenario. In fact the only thing I suspect AA could add from MSY would be a JFK flight...but with its new agreement with B6, that has become less likely IMO. DL has really stepped up its game in MSY by beefing up former NW routes as well as adding new flights. It wouldn't surprise me to see the airline add another route or two from MSY.


User currently offlineMSYguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 2096 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
I think this is the first red-eye for MSY since CO's LAX-MSY red-eye with a 735 around 1995/1996.

I flew a DL red-eye from LAS to MSY in 1999. Not sure when that went away, but it appears to post-date the CO service you mention below.

Very happy to see DL ramping up operations, and the general upturn at MSY over the last 12-18 months (as noted in your separate thread regarding the recent numbers).


User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3016 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 2079 times:

Wow - glad to see! Now if only MSY could get 763s back.... I remember back in the day, there would be a couple of Tristars and a couple of National DC10s on the ground at the same time occasionally.

[Edited 2010-08-04 09:02:44]


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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6565 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 2059 times:

Quoting MSYguy (Reply 12):
I flew a DL red-eye from LAS to MSY in 1999. Not sure when that went away, but it appears to post-date the CO service you mention below.

Wow...cannot believe I forgot about that one...I must be slipping...good old Delta 302, LAS-MSY-ATL, usually flow with 767 or 763.

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 13):
Now if only MSY could get 763s back.... I

Wouldn't that be nice? Sadly, those days are gone, but not forgotten.


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6321 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

Quoting Western727 (Reply 9):
AA is a big player at LAX....and is unofficially the airline of choice for Hollywood's A-listers given the large number of LAX nonstops...or so I was told

Do the A-listers really trudge all the way down to LAX from Hollywood when BUR is right next door? Sure, not as many flights, but...it's literally right there.


User currently offlineWestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 747 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 1943 times:

Quoting SW733 (Reply 15):
Do the A-listers really trudge all the way down to LAX from Hollywood when BUR is right next door? Sure, not as many flights, but...it's literally right there.

Valid question. Anyone know why they seem to do that? The celebrity airport shots seem to almost always be at LAX. I suspect that it might be because of BUR's limited space and rwy lengths resulting in limited nonstop destinations and frequencies.



Jack @ AUS
User currently offline747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1186 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Quoting Western727 (Reply 16):
Valid question. Anyone know why they seem to do that? The celebrity airport shots seem to almost always be at LAX. I suspect that it might be because of BUR's limited space and rwy lengths resulting in limited nonstop destinations and frequencies.



I'm thinking that it could be due to the fact that many of the flights out of BUR lack first class. This is a necessity in many of the entertainment contracts. Of course a lack of nonstop service overall compared to LAX doesn't help.


User currently offlineUALFAson From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 723 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

Quoting SW733 (Reply 15):
Do the A-listers really trudge all the way down to LAX from Hollywood when BUR is right next door? Sure, not as many flights, but...it's literally right there.

Not to hijack the thread, but two reasons:
1) The majority of flights out of BUR are heading to the Bay Area or other Western destinations. Very few flights to the East Coast (esp. NYC) and nothing internationally.
2) Most celebs who live in L.A. proper (as opposed to Malibu, Santa Barbara vicinity) live on the Westside--the Hollywood Hills, Bel Air, maybe Beverly Hills. For this area, BUR is actually not "right next door." LAX is much closer, either down the 405 or, more likely, via surface streets.

Back on topic: that will be a rough red-eye for pax. They're in the air for what, about 3.5 hours? Hardly enough time to get a full night's sleep. Better than AA's LAX-DFW red-eye, but still...

In any event, always good to see new service, especially to a terrific city!



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