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How Many Total Passengers Flew On Concorde?   
User currently offlineAncientPelican From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 34 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9716 times:

I'm really curious about how many passengers Concorde flew. This would include include charters as well as regular passenger service on both British Airways and Air France. Anyone know or would care to guess?

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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From Monaco, joined Feb 2007, 11330 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9672 times:

The numbers were 100 pax for British Airways and 92 for Air France.
You would need to find the total number of flights (I would have to research it) and make the total.

Maybe our Concorde expert GDB has got a better answer than mine. Let's wait and see what he has to say.


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 29316 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9252 times:

BA says they carried slightly over 2.5 million passengers on 50,000 Concorde flights, meaning an average load factor of about 50%.

AF passengers would be less than that but not sure by how much.

[Edited 2010-07-25 12:27:19]

User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13591 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9057 times:

Viscount724, I think AF would be less, mainly due to them running a single JFK service from 1977 to 2003, whilst BA quickly established a double daily, until 2000.
AF stopped all scheduled routes expect JFK after 1982, though increased it's charters.
BA had the same attempts at finding other profitable routes, however unlike AF, they carried on a three times weekly to IAD until late 1994.
This had an extension to MIA between 1984-1991.
The BA once or twice weekly BGI service from the late 1980's, in the winter months too.

By the late 1990's BA were running about 300-350 charters per year, AF I suspect were not that far behind.
So a rough guesstimate from me, would be a total AF number of over 1.5 million pax, though I'm happy to be proved wrong by someone with a better handle on the AF operation!

User currently offlineEMAman From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8231 times:

Neither airline ran many flights. BA had 7 of these birds, they must have had some metal sittig aroun unproductively for long periods of time; perhaps another contributing factor as to why it was not profitable.

User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13591 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8138 times:

Quoting EMAman (Reply 4):
Neither airline ran many flights. BA had 7 of these birds, they must have had some metal sittig aroun unproductively for long periods of time;

One was usually undergoing heavy scheduled maintenance, one or two often having more minor checks.
Each scheduled service (and some higher profile charters), required a serviceable standby, so if the lead aircraft went tech pax could more quickly change to another, they were paying for the speed so important they got away ASAP.
I mentioned charters, this often meant on days with two JFKs to depart (and two inbound), we also had some charters to depart, sometimes addtionallly a scheduled BGI as well the the JFK's and charters.

Often these charters had multiple rotations, for example if they were doing 'round the bays' from another airport.

Some periods were more quiet, public holidays, less demand in August so a single JFK service then.
Good time for maintenance catch up.

Concorde was profitable for BA from the early mid 80's, increasingly so, which is how it survived (actually thrived) after that period.

Some 'days in the life of BA Concorde' during my time, all times LHR local;

Sun 28th March 1999;

09.30 - BA273 / LHR-BGI / G-BOAG
10.30 - BA001 / LHR-JFK / G-BOAE
13.05 - BA9010C / LHR-LHR / G-BOAC
13.45 - BA002 / JFK-LHR / G-BOAA
16.45 - BA272 / BGI-LHR / G-BOAG
18.45 - BA004 / JFK-LHR / G-BOAE
19.00 - BA003 / JFK-LHR / G-BOAC

More normal the following day, Mon 29th Mar 1999;

10.30 - BA001 / LHR-JFK / G-BOAF
13.45 - BA002 / JFK-LHR / G-BOAC
18.45 - BA004 / JFK-LHR / G-BOAF
19.00 - BA003 / LHR-JFK - G-BOAB

A very busy one, Sun 29th Aug 1999, no BA003/BA004 but charters;

08.05 - BA9028C / LHR-GLA / G-BOAG
10.30 - BA001 / LHR-JFK / G-BOAA
11.00 - BA9029C / GLA-CDG / G-BOAG
13.15 - BA9010C / LHR-LHR / G-BOAF
13.45 - BA002 / JFK-LHR / G-BOAC
16.00 - BA9030C / CDG-EMA / G-BOAG
16.15 - BA9012C / LHR-LHR / G-BOAE
19.00 - BA9031C / EMA-LHR / G-BOAG

Normal JFK schedule plus a 'round the bay charter', Mon 14th Feb 2000;

10.30 - BA001 / LHR-JFK / G-BOAE
13.15 - BA9010C / LHR-LHR / G-BOAG
13.45 - BA002 / JFK-LHR / G-BOAB
18.45 / BA004 / JFK-LHR / G-BOAE
19.00 / BA003 / LHR-JFK / G-BOAF

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