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Greek ATC Strike - Delays  
User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3890 times:

Air Traffic Controllers in Greece are on a so called "white strike" since the early hours of Sunday. A "white strike" in Greek means that Controllers follow their working times to rule and do not do any overtime even when it is paid overtime.

The strike is due to the draft-bill providing for reorganization of Civil Aviation Service promoted by the Transport, Infrastructure and Network Ministry.

The strike is causing long delays for many airlines flying in the Greek Airspace since capacity is limited and they need to use neighbouring countries' airspace.

Huge problems are also caused to Cypriot carriers Cyprus Airways and Eurocypria since the Greek Airspace is their only passage to Europe given that they are not allowed to fly over Turkey.

Noone knows how the situation will evolve but the effects are starting to be noticed by many European and other carriers that are frequent users of the Greek Airspace.

Needless to mention the delays faced by anyone trying to fly in and out of any Greek airport.

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User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3865 times:

Total chaos here for holiday travelers that are going to Cyprus or Greece, at least 10+ hours delay at GOT n ARN.


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User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3820 times:

News agencies in Greece are reporting that the Greek public is becoming more and more frustrated with the Controllers who choose the peak Summer time to pose their demands.

There is also concern as the Controllers' spokesman mentioned many times during the last few days that the Greek Air space was operating beyond maximum capacity and as this was dangerous so the Controllers dediced to closely follow the ICAO rules.

Ordinary people on other blogs/forums wonder how the skies suddenly become safer when the Government gives a pay rise to the Controllers?

Were the rules not followed at other times? How this was allowed by EU authorities?

Something doesn't quite make sense here.

User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3623 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3677 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 2):
Ordinary people on other blogs/forums wonder how the skies suddenly become safer when the Government gives a pay rise to the Controllers?

As far as I know the demands have nothing to do with pay but with working conditions, the state of the equipment they use etc.

User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3651 times:

ATCs' protest delays flights

Greek air traffic controllers' continued a "work-to-rule" protest on Monday, after a series of rolling 24-hour strikes called by their union and due to start Sunday were stopped by courts as illegal. The action, begun on Sunday, has caused delays in flight schedules as not all aircraft are allowed to approach Greek air space.

The strike was called by the union in protest against pension reform plans and a halt to new recruitment.

According to data from Athens' Eleftherios Venizelos International Airport (AIA), delays of more than one hour have affected 42 departures between midnight and 9:00 a.m. Monday.

Delays of up to four hours were reported in some flights on Sunday.



Bunch of idiots , they should have their bonuses and salaries cut to compensate the airlines/passengers affected.

User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3631 times:

As long as they are back to work and all is good for my trip to Cyprus in a few weeks I will be just fine!

User currently offlinethrufru From Marshall Islands, joined Feb 2009, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3606 times:

We dealt with the same baloney last week with the French controllers. CTOT's were exceeding 4 hours in some cases. I operated AMS-PMI-AMS on Wednesday night, and due to the strike, we rerouted over the UK, entered remote oceanic airspace southwest of Land's End and coasted in along the Spanish coast around Santander before heading East/Southeast to PMI. The return wasn't so bad due to the late time, but with the detours, reroutes and CTOT's, an easy turn with a short 6 hour duty day ended up being just shy of 13 hours (arriving back into AMS at 0630).

I'm flyin AMS-AYT-AMS on Thursday. Hopefully we'll take a more northerly route and avoid Greek airspace altogther.

User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 23 hours ago) and read 3485 times:

Quoting lewis (Reply 3):
As far as I know the demands have nothing to do with pay but with working conditions, the state of the equipment they use etc

Not exactly. The Controllers demand that ATC services are separated off from the Government forming a new Private body which will be owned by them. This body will then be able to control the costs for flights in the Greek Airspace and hence the salary benefits of the Controllers.

The total income from airspace fees is estimated to be approximately Euro180 million.

So, their demand is money related and as it appears, all the other matters are just excuses to support a strike.

More information can be found in http://news.ert.gr/el/ellada/koinoni...izontai-ta-problimata-stis-ptiseis (Greek Only)

User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6529 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 20 hours ago) and read 3410 times:

So, controllers are allowed to make overtime ? Isn't their "normal time" already at max according to regulations ?

About the French ATC strikes (3 this year already) it's about the future European airspace, which will cut jobs.

My brother flies to Greece Sunday, will it be OK by then ?

ORY-ATH looks like the worst journey he could have picked !

[Edited 2010-07-26 10:21:01]

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User currently offlinesandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3427 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (4 years 19 hours ago) and read 3360 times:

The same is happening in Spain. Since a few days, an unproportionally high amount of Spanish ATC controllers have called in "sick", following the end of their previous collective labor agreement (the we wanna work even less and get paid even more flu?).

I wonder wether these idiots actually realise that they hurt their own country the most. As both Greece and Spain are still in deep financial difficulties they can use every penny generated by tourist revenue, which both countries heavily rely on. Actions like these certainly won't boost tourist confidence in either country.

And as if this wasn't enough, it follows a very recent strike by french ATC. I flew to AGP a week ago at FL180, great fun.

Somebody needs to pull the plug on this bunch of morons. Hello Eurocontrol..

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