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Early Impact From WN At ECP  
User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6694 posts, RR: 24
Posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

Data from WN's first full month of service at ECP is starting to roll in.

First, June 2010 traffic at ECP surged 296% versus PFN a year ago. This surge isn't totally surprising given the tremendous amount of capacity that WN's arrival brought plus the upgauging of equipment by Delta. Based on my rough estimates, LF's for DL and WN at ECP were running about 83%.

Now the other question, what impact is this service having at neighboring airports in June.

DHN: Down 16%
VPS: Down 10%
PNS: Up 5.5%

Not surprisingly, the close in airports at VPS and DHN took a hit. Of course, DHN has been on a decline for quite a while, so we can't be totally sure if WN at ECP is totally to blame. Also, the impact of the oil spill may have hurt VPS a bit.

PNS, which has Airtran, faired far better despite any hits from the oil spill. PNS' relatively low fares as well as new service from UA and AA helped traffic grow.

TLH hasn't posted June numbers, but judging by their May numbers it will not be pretty regardless of the WN impact.

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User currently offlineskymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Thread starter):
TLH hasn't posted June numbers, but judging by their May numbers it will not be pretty regardless of the WN impact.

I am a TLH resident and tried, just for grins, ECP a week ago. Full disclosure -- I am a DM and lifetime PM with DL.

I was totally underwhelmed by ECP for the following reasons. In the following, all travel was on DL.

First, there was no difference in $$ on my route (SEA as destination).

Second for this weeks trip (LGA) TLH is wayyy cheaper

Third, getting to ECP is not too bad (appprox 2 hours via Highway 20) but there is no convenient place to top up a rental car before handing it in (and this getting killed on a fuel charge).

Fourth, ECP is much more convenient for customers from Panama city and west, as it is fairly close to US 98 and Hwy
79.

Fifth, I was underwhelmed by the lower terminal design and entrance to the concourse through TSA -- there is very little queue staging area, and the snake extends back into the gap between Ticket desks and Baggage claim, which creates a person jam. There is very little space post security to reassemble before going up the escaltor to the concourse, which pushes the TSA staff toward the terminal area.

Sixth, the gate area for DL mainline with the jetway is very awkward and cramped (gate 4) -- the whole waiting area, jammed with backless seats is about the size of a 3 car garage, with the jetway entrance in a very awkward location between a railing and the desk. I get the impression that the airport managers favoured concessions over gate space (understandable from a revenue point of view)

Seventh, the customers were mainly leisure travellers, who can take ages to get through TSA -- one lady ahead of me took 4 minutes back and forth unloading watch, belt, jewelry, etc. I understand that less frequent travellers can be slower, but the airport should have different lanes with assistance available to those who are not as familiar with the procedures -- especially and aiport that focuses on leisuree business

I will stick with TLH THANK YOU!! -- much easier, cheaper and more convenient.

I do not see much if any siphoning of traffic from TLH at all -- especially business customers.

Just my    !

SkyMiler



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6806 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Thread starter):
Based on my rough estimates, LF's for DL and WN at ECP were running about 83%.

I hope this is a sign that inbound tourist traffic to the region hasn't taken a severe hit due to the Gulf oil spill. It does appear that Southwest actually is selling out some of their flights to/from ECP this summer.


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6694 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2005 times:

Quoting skymiler (Reply 1):
I do not see much if any siphoning of traffic from TLH at all -- especially business customers.

Thanks for the "trip report"....interesting perspective. Sounds like some of the design of ECP might not be so great which is disappointing given it was designed from the ground up as a brand new airport.

I agree with you that I don't think TLH will be too severely impacted except you might lose a few of the leisure travelers who will be drawn by ECP's low fares. Looking at May data however, I was suprised how much further TLH's traffic had fallen compared to 2009.

Quoting ScottB (Reply 2):
I hope this is a sign that inbound tourist traffic to the region hasn't taken a severe hit due to the Gulf oil spill.

Panama City has faired well with little oil hitting their beaches. Even Pensacola has clean beaches right now. The bigger problem is the media scare away factor. The media has probably scared away far more tourists than should have been. I do know that Pensacola Beach has reported hotel occupancy for July being down significantly even though air travel has held up.

Historically, neither Pensacola nor Panama City got most of their tourists by plane....most came by car. Part of the goal of bringing WN to ECP was to change that. At least for this summer, it looks like it may have worked at ECP, though I have my doubts at how WN will fare in the fall/winter.


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6806 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 3):
Part of the goal of bringing WN to ECP was to change that. At least for this summer, it looks like it may have worked at ECP, though I have my doubts at how WN will fare in the fall/winter.

I think fall/early winter (through Feb. 10) will be weak apart from the holiday periods, but that's true even for MIA/FLL/PBI/TPA/MCO. It will definitely be interesting to see how the late winter/spring numbers look to see if there is a meaningful shift in tourism traffic from road to air.


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