aa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 58 Posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2627 times:
I know Air New Zealand's 777s and 747s have had their J cabins upgraded to the new herringbone seat design, but the 767s have not. Does anyone have any insight as to if/when ANZ will upgrade their 767 J seats?
kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8479 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2578 times:
So far as I know NZ have never had any intention of putting the new J on the 767s , for the amount of time they are expected to remain in the fleet it is not worth it , particularly as the only longhaul sectors they operate these days are routes where the emphasis is on leisure ( RAR-LAX , APW-LAX , AKL-KIX ) and there is no direct competition on those routes so it is not as though they are going head to head on those routes with other airlines with either lie-flats or sloped beds .
If they had decided to refit them I guess that they would probably have done it at the same time they had the winglets fitted so that they could minimise the downtime .
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ZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5168 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2421 times:
Wasn't there also the issue of the floors would have needed strengthening for the Herringbone seats to be installed? I recall a similar issue with QF and the 743s having Skybeds installed or that should be not having Skybeds installed. The cost wasn't worth it.
zkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1602 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2261 times:
it' comes down to cost and others have said - time there only going be around for another 3 years till the 787's arrive, they had an upgrade in Y class. and that's plenty to keep them ticking over, not as if jetstar are gojng to star Perth-Auckland 2mrow!! (you never know) The best person to let you know would be NZ1 , he helps us out a lot of the time with theses small questions...
777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 11787 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2237 times:
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The J and Y cabins on the B763 had a make over last year with new seats.
To put the new long haul seats in the B763 would require the floors to be enhanced which would have reduced the aircrafts flying range. The B763 is also used on a Japanese route and the heavy floors would have caused problems for that flight.
sunrisevalley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4562 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2203 times:
Quoting 777ER (Reply 4): To put the new long haul seats in the B763 would require the floors to be enhanced which would have reduced the aircrafts flying range. The B763 is also used on a Japanese route and the heavy floors would have caused problems for that flight
AC did their fleet but for certain frames , no doubt for the longest hauls, the total seat count is only ~ 190 compared to NZ's 223. The reduction in payload is ~ the equivalent of increasing the OEW or reducing the fuel load by 3.3t
pilotdude09 From Australia, joined May 2005, 1777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1872 times:
Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 9): I'm heading to RAR in 2011 and leaning toward J. The only thing I can't get over is the width of the seat.....
Yeah it is quite a squeeze, but personally I'd still go J, you get the same food and meal service as you get on long haul, top NZ wines and the best service. I'd like to see them upgrade the seat, usually fly PER-AKL-PER twice a year in J and I'd like to see the seat upgraded but don't think we will.