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Delta Applies For CUN-AUS/CMH/SAT/TPA Service  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 10378 times:

Delta Air Lines has filed with the DOT to commence seasonal Saturday only service on four US-Mexico city pairs.

Austin, Texas (AUS)-Cancun, Mexico (CUN)
Columbus, Ohio (CMH)-Cancun, Mexico (CUN
San Antonio, Texas (SAT)-Cancun, Mexico (CUN)
Tampa, Florida (TPA)-Cancun, Mexico (CUN)

Carrier plans to utilize 142 seat MD-80 aircraft with service commencing February 11th, 2011.

OST-2010-pending.


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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 10384 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
Austin, Texas (AUS)-Cancun, Mexico (CUN)

That's an interesting one..  



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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6304 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 10357 times:

Austin to Cancun and Columbus to Cancun, huh? Hmmm...me thinks they are expecting some FULL flights during Spring Break!  

User currently offlinecleared2land From United States of America, joined May 2010, 188 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 10268 times:

Will DL be able to do the CUN run now that the FAA has re-classified Mexico as Cat 2 because of safety deficiencies? My understanding is with a Cat 2 classification no new service from US carriers can occur.

FAA To Downgrade Mexico’s Aviation Safety Ranking (by terryb99 Jul 30 2010 in Civil Aviation)

[Edited 2010-08-02 12:24:29]


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User currently offlinenetjetsintl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10233 times:

Great for Cancun and best of luck to Delta....

Mexicana's world is collapsing, I wonder what they'd think when they read about Delta applying for 4 Cancun routes????


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10131 times:

CMH and TPA are certainly no surprises given that both are former focus cities and should still have enough DL loyals left to fill a weekly Mad Dog to Cancun. SAT and AUS are surprises, though if the planes make more money on saturdays by doing the hop over CAN than operating yet another ATL leg or similar.

Of course, if granted, this would put Delta at 18 destinations served from CUN, admittedly all but ATL, DTW and SLC being only once weekly, but still.


User currently offlineflyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2277 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10112 times:

I have been waiting for Delta to apply for Columbus-Cancun for a few years now. Since RDU and BDL received weekly service, I have been hoping CMH would not be far down the line. I would imagine the weekly service would do well. Currently, USA3000 does CMH-CUN 1x weekly on a seasonal basis; so essentially the service is non-existant. It will certainly be nice to have Delta on the route.

User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6756 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10052 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
to commence seasonal Saturday only service

These Saturday only service seem to be good for aircraft utilization for Delta and they must like them. Could we see more of these? Perhaps MBJ, NAS, and/or BDA? They seem to fit into the tourist passengers DL appears to be looking to??

BTW.. what does DL consider seasonal? I know, at least for the current CUN seasonal service, they have been kinda random.. 8 weeks on, then 7 weeks off, then 6 weeks on, etc..

Just a thought..



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User currently offlinenetjetsintl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9841 times:

excluding these 4 proposed routes, from how many places does Delta fly to Cancun???

If I'm not mistaken back in 2008 Delta flew to Cancun from 12 U.S points.... anybody know if that still stands??


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9789 times:

Quoting netjetsintl (Reply 8):
excluding these 4 proposed routes, from how many places does Delta fly to Cancun???

If I'm not mistaken back in 2008 Delta flew to Cancun from 12 U.S points.... anybody know if that still stands??

The current number of destinations is 14: ATL, BDL, BNA, BOS, CVG, DTW, IAD, IND, LAX, MCO, MEM, MSP, RDU, SLC. They also used to serve MKE until fairly recently, but that route has been dropped.


User currently offlinenetjetsintl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9764 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 9):
The current number of destinations is 14: ATL, BDL, BNA, BOS, CVG, DTW, IAD, IND, LAX, MCO, MEM, MSP, RDU, SLC. They also used to serve MKE until fairly recently, but that route has been dropped.

Jeez, 14? soon to become 18... thanx for the answer DAL767


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6529 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9734 times:

I wonder if the availability of multiple weekly, year-round cruises from MSY to the Yucatan resort areas are a factor in MSY-CUN air service not restarting?

User currently offlineCompensateMe From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1060 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9638 times:

NW owned MLT Vacations (a.k.a. Worry Free Vacations), one of the largest travel agencies (tour operator) in the country. MLT's breadth shrank dramatically after NW's bankruptcy, but since its acquisition by DL, its product has been propped up. DL seems committed to the tour market.


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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6447 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9500 times:

I wonder, would a possible Saturday-only ABQ-CUN service work? I know that Aeromexico's past ABQ-CUU service was a total flop, however, CUN is by far a more touristy destination. However, an MD-88 would probably struggle on this route (especially in the summer), so maybe a 738 (or perhaps a 73G) might be a better option.


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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25012 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9500 times:
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Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 9):
They also used to serve MKE until fairly recently, but that route has been dropped.

MKE-CUN is still bookable on the Delta website for this Christmas. Are they dropping it?

mariner



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User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6449 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9492 times:

Northwest flew daily from Tampa to MBJ and CUN in the 90's for a number of years. The flights were generally near full so there is a market there. The yield was marginal profitable. They fed the flights from the mid-west.

User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3730 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9263 times:

Quoting flyCMH (Reply 6):
I have been waiting for Delta to apply for Columbus-Cancun for a few years now. Since RDU and BDL received weekly service, I have been hoping CMH would not be far down the line.

I'd been figuring the same thing. Very interesting, though!



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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3278 posts, RR: 45
Reply 17, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9225 times:

I can't believe DL applied for AUS-CUN.

Let's take a look at the history of AUS-CUN:

AM (failed)
F9 (failed)
Viva Aerobus (failed)
Funjet (on again, off again)

I just have a hard time believing both B6 and DL could make this work. If both airlines do actually start it, I'd be stunned if one, if not both of them stopped the route within 6 months. Viva came in with very cheap fares, so I can't imagine the reason the route failed was because the fares were too high. Perhaps American travelers are more interested in US airlines? With B6, they may be able to scrap together enough feed from the west coast to connect passengers to it, when combined with O&D from AUS.

Not sure where DL is coming from.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 18, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9108 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 13):
I wonder, would a possible Saturday-only ABQ-CUN service work? I know that Aeromexico's past ABQ-CUU service was a total flop, however, CUN is by far a more touristy destination. However, an MD-88 would probably struggle on this route (especially in the summer), so maybe a 738 (or perhaps a 73G) might be a better option.

Not going to work. West coasters prefer Puerto Vallarta and Cabo San Lucas; even LAX and SFO have struggled to support much CUN service.



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6529 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9077 times:

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 17):
Let's take a look at the history of AUS-CUN:

AM (failed)
F9 (failed)
Viva Aerobus (failed)
Funjet (on again, off again)

I think SY flies it on a seasonal basis as well.


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6447 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9017 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 18):
West coasters prefer Puerto Vallarta and Cabo San Lucas; even LAX and SFO have struggled to support much CUN service.

Since when is Albuquerque on the West Coast?

I know F9 once tried ABQ-PVR, however, it was eliminated to cut costs. At least PVR makes more sense than CUU.



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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3278 posts, RR: 45
Reply 21, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8796 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 19):

I was under the impression SY was operating the flights on behalf of Funjet, but I could be mistaken. But they have, indeed, been operated 3x weekly as SY 521 and SY 522.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlinenetjetsintl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8624 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 20):
I know F9 once tried ABQ-PVR, however, it was eliminated to cut costs. At least PVR makes more sense than CUU.

My understanding, ABQ to anywhere in Mexico (even the all mighty Cancun) has never performed well.


User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3039 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8418 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 5):
TPA

FL applied and announced for this route in 2005 along with ATL-CUN, then canceled it because of Hurricane Rita.



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6447 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8401 times:

Quoting netjetsintl (Reply 22):
My understanding, ABQ to anywhere in Mexico (even the all mighty Cancun) has never performed well.

Has ABQ ever had service to CUN? The only Mexico services that I recall from ABQ were to PVR (F9) and CUU (AM).



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25 laxboeingman : Interesting. I think that CMH and TPA will be the best, the others I am not so sure of. I think that CMH will be good because people will want to go f
26 Atlwest1 : I believe they are gonna drop it due to F9 and FL being approved to fly it and i believe offering it on there respective sites for sale.
27 mariner : I wonder when, then? They're still offering it, although only on a Saturday, at least in Christmas week. It seems very "un-Delta" to drop it altogeth
28 Atlwest1 : I thought on the FL side they were going to start it Decemeber 1st. Maybe DL wants to get a little extra Christmas traffic or something. Though I for
29 mariner : Hmmmm. I thought Delta still has a fairly huge passenger base in MKE, could do okay as Saturday service and Airtran's new presence on the route might
30 Post contains images Atlwest1 : True that As ive said before MKE is surely interesting to watch
31 DeltaRules : I know one weekend that CMH plane will be full: It'll be the OSU Express to Spring Break sometime in March. Same can be said for AUS-CUN with the U o
32 Post contains images laca773 : DL does pretty well in SAT. They are also adding a daily A319 nonstop to JFK. Perhaps these various weekly flights to CUN are in conjunction with a V
33 MAH4546 : Since we are using it in the scope of vacation travel patterns, Albuquerque is by all means the West Coast. There are three distinct "travel" regions
34 mptpa : Does anyone know when TPA-CUN authority is expected to be granted? Thx MP TPA
35 rampguy : Albuquerque is not even close to the coast line to be considered "westcoast." I guess you failed geography in school.
36 FlyASAGuy2005 : I wonder what the CUN ramp looks like on Saturdays!! 18 flights and this is just DL. AA has near as many flight si not more.
37 jetlanta : Much of this is being driven by DL's wholly-owned subsidiary MLT Vacations. That relationship has been a huge plus from the merger.
38 Post contains images enilria : Actually, the problem isn't demand it's price. CUN is a lot further than PVR or SJD so its gonna cost more to fly to CUN. There is plenty of demand t
39 Post contains images TJM321 : Perhaps CMH and AUS will see a couple of subbed 763's during those weeks
40 mptpa : CMH-CUN market will be ready for sale on Aug 21, 2010 for flights beginning in Feb 2011. Not sure of the other markets, and when they will be open for
41 LAXintl : DOT granted all the authorities swiftly on August 6th.
42 Netjetsintl : as expected... if the DOT did not approve one of those DL requested routes, that would've been something else
43 N587NK : NK also briefly(very briefly) operated TPA-CUN. I worked the inagural flight out of TPA and it went out completly full. The very first flight was actu
44 dldtw1962 : These are cities that Apple Vacation (USA3000) are or where flying out of. From the information I have been reading and hearing Apple Vacations is los
45 B4REAL : I see some of these flights available for booking right now. Oddly, only in Business class on the MD and no coach seats for sale. The Business class f
46 cslusarc : Its quite nice to see that a US carrier wants to expand its winter sun program. I'm kind of shocked that DL did not try this strategy before. Does any
47 YXwatcherMKE : Checking the DL website for Travel during the Month of Dec./10 do not have n/s or direct service but in Jan./11 and they do have N/S service on Satur
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