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User currently offlineJderden777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1757 posts, RR: 28
Posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1547 times:

hey i'm flying to DFW from CLT in a few days (non-rev on AA) and i don't have to pay anything...i was wondering which airlines out there make you pay for flying standby...like ID95 and all that stuff

jonathan d.




"my soul is in the sky" - shakespeare
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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1410 times:

I know from my days at FL and EV that when you fly on other airlines, we'd either have to pay $50, or it was ID90, ID75, ID50. And on several airlines we could get a confirmed RT ticket for a set price. One such offer I could have taken advantage of was Alitalia from BOS to Milan for something like $400 RT. We had a similar deal with Iberia out of MIA and JFK to MAD for $369 RT. As being an employee of Delta (at least a subsidiary company), we got non-rev passage on SkyTeam partners (provided it was a codeshare with Delta), like ATL-CDG on AF, and would be seated in Business Class or First Class is space was available, all we would have to pay were the International duties and customs, which could be payroll deducted from our paycheck. Any U.S. airline that charges its' non-revs for travel usually charge somewhere between $15-$25 to fly, but more and more airlines are making domestic travel free for their employees, save for Int'l flights, where all you pay are the taxes and duties.

User currently offlineAA7771stClass From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 296 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

Every airline probably has a different system. I'll explain AA's because that's what we use. For immediate family members flying D-2, there is not a charge for coach domestic travel. Once you leave the U.S., there are those small customs duties and stuff but it's still a great deal...as long as you get on. I know that a first class international ticket is about $200 (What a deal!?!?!). As far as ID90...I think you can do it on any airline but I'm not sure of the arrangements. However, if an employee gives you a non-rev ticket, you fly D-3 and I believe there is a small charge for that flight. It all depends on if you get on or not!

User currently offlineWilcharl From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1168 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

Hey SRBMod you dont know how DL would treat an FL employee traveling on a revenue ticekt? Im doing ATL-CDG on DL and would love to end up in BusinessElite, i know I would extend the courtesy to any DL person, but i have my doubts that DL would do it the other way especialy ATL-CDG did i mention my ankle was broken and i need that extra large seat

User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4364 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1324 times:

Jonathan,

I used to non-rev on United Express quite a bit last fall/winter. On ACA, you can non-rev and fly free on Altantic Coast Airlines, United Airlines, and Delta Airlines and it's commuter airlines. You can also fly at a discount with any other major (domestic and international) airline of some like $30-$100 per leg. But still I missed flying non-rev. Hopefully I can non-rev again next summer and non-rev with "green" pass (pilot's passes) in a couple years.  Smile

Kevin/DCA



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User currently offlineDoug From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 858 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1321 times:

No one flys for free on AA.The only way you can non rev on AA in (COACH)for free is if you are retired with either 20 or 25 years of service or if you are a current active employee with 5 years seniority.Management is confirmed A space travel.D2, D3 all pay something if they do not meet the above qualifications.Oh and you also can fly free on special passes such as perfect attendance and things of that nature.

User currently offlineAA7771stClass From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 296 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1316 times:

No dude...things have changed. D2s can fly anywhere in the contiguous U.S. with no charge (coach). The rule went into effect either this year or late last year.

User currently offlineViflyer From US Virgin Islands, joined May 1999, 501 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1311 times:

NO... Actually Doug is right. The only way you can no-rev on AA or AE is if your jumpseat qualified or as Doug had written earlier. Trust me I have D2 Charge up the a** this month and all I flew was back and fort to ORD a couple of times.

VIflyer (a sorta pround AE F/A)



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User currently offlineDoug From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 858 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1297 times:

AA7771stClass,trust me I work for AA and no D2 can travel free unless they meet the above qualifications as I stated.Would you like to see my paycheck I will be more than happy to show you the NRSA charges for D2 travel.

User currently offlineBraniff727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1281 times:

Hey JDerden777,

I am a domestic partner at Northwest, and I pay $10 each way domestically plus a small amount of tax, which ends up being usually less than $50 total anywhere. Everyone else (employees, spouses, children and parents) just pay the $10, that also includes Airlink jet service, but not prop service (I can't explain it either).

I think we also get the same thing on CO, but at a lower pass priority (9A I think).



Climbing
User currently offlineAA7771stClass From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 296 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1268 times:

I don't know what the difference between yall and me are but I know that AA doesn't charge for economy class domestic travel on my mom's paycheck.

User currently offlineViflyer From US Virgin Islands, joined May 1999, 501 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1267 times:

AA7771stClass, how long hasyour mother worked for AA. I knowif you have worked for the airline for ummmmm I think 20 yearsyou don't pay. or else she has a ton of perfect attendance passes. That's the only way a current employee can non-rev for free.


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User currently offlineCannedSpam From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Doug is right. Below is the criteria for waiving the service charge in coach. Obviously, both Doug and Viflyer have less than 5 years and your mom has more.

I'd like to clarify one thing that Doug stated previously. When Doug stated "Management is confirmed A space travel."; I believe he was refering to the fact that management employees Level 7/8 and above travel on a confirmed "A" pass for both business and pleasure. The rest of us only travel on an "A" pass when we travel for buisness. For example, I am a Level 4 so I travel D2 for leisure and A11 for business. My boss is a Level 6 and he travels D2 for leisure and A10 for business and his boss is a Level 7/8 and travels as a confirmed A6 for both leisure and business. Additionally, only A1, A2, A4, A5, A6 and A7 travel confirmed for business travel. That means that they can not be removed for oversales although I can as I only travel for business on a A11 pass.

Here is the breakdown on service charge waived travel:

SERVICE CHARGE WAIVED COACH TRAVEL PROGRAMS

Twenty-Five Year Service Charge Waived Coach Travel

Employees and retirees with 25 years or more of actual company seniority fly service charge waived in coach systemwide.

Applicability

- Regular employees who have 25 years or more of company seniority

- Retirees who left AMR with 25 years or more of company seniority

- Spouse or company-recognized domestic partners of eligible employees*

- Your dependent children, your domestic partner’s dependent children*

- Registered companions (RC) of eligible employees**

- Flight attendants who left the Company under the provisions of Article 30 or Appendix T

*Note: Surviving spouses or surviving domestic partners are not eligible for this program.

Other Service Charges

There will be no service charge for travel in coach class system wide. You will be required to pay any applicable taxes and/or airport fees. If you travel in first or business class, you will pay only the difference between the class of service flown and coach class service charge, plus any applicable taxes and airport fees.


**Registered companion travel will be deducted from your 24 one-way pass bank. Imputed tax may apply for registered companion and domestic partner travel.

Five Year Service Charge Waived Coach Travel

Employees and retirees with 5 years or more, but less than 25 years of actual company seniority fly domestic service charge waived in coach.

Applicability

- Regular employees who have 5 years or more of company seniority

- Retirees who left AMR with 5 years or more of company seniority

- Spouse or company-recognized domestic partners of eligible employees*

- Your dependent children, your domestic partner’s dependent children*

- Registered companions (RC) of eligible employees**

- Flight attendants who left the Company under the provisions of Article 30 or Appendix T

*Note: Surviving spouses or surviving domestic partners are not eligible for this program.

Other Service Charges

There will be no service charge for travel in coach class when traveling to/from domestic destinations. Domestic travel is defined as within the U.S. including Hawaii and Alaska, Puerto Rico, Mexico, Canada and the Caribbean. You will be required to pay any applicable taxes and/or airport fees. If you travel in first or business class, you will pay full rates for the class of service flown plus any applicable taxes and airport fees.



User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

For the AirTran employee flying to CDG on Delta, just ask the agent, or once you get aboard, ask a flight attendant if there is any room in BusinessElite. Next time you fly Delta, try to get a pass from someone at Delta or ASA, if you don't know anybody there, start getting to know someone. On a Delta buddy pass, you pay a yield fare (certain cents per mile) and a round trip flight to Paris would run you around $200-225 including duties and taxes. And on top of that you can book yourselve in the BusinessElite cabin when you purchase the ticket.

User currently offlinePapatango From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

you can not repeat can not book yourself in business class or coach on a delta buddy pass they are standby only pass classification s-4. i'm retired delta just last week took the wife to italy into mxp out of vce was lucky got business class both ways i only have to pay intl taxes and customs fees

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

Sorry, I used the wrong wording. I should have said list for the flight, not book the flight.

User currently offlineTeXstud323 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1232 times:

Kudo's to those airlines that have arrived with the times and relaxed the rediculous dress codes that have plagued the poor non-revver. The whole concept was to look professional, all the while not calling attention to yourself... well, in 1950 maybe, in 2001, anyone dressed in their Sunday best on a saturday morning in the gate area SCRRRRREAMS nonrev.

Jeers to the few who are still clinging to the old ways and jeers to the employees who still use it as a way to punish nonrev travelers for the bad days that they have had. you know who you are  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlinePassenger From Italy, joined May 2011, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

I heartily disagree with the above statement.

User currently offlineAA7771stClass From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 296 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1221 times:

Went and asked mom about the exact circumstances. She has worked at AA for close to 13 years. She said that it is just a new policy for those who have worked for more than 5 years to get free travel. I don't think this is case sensitive but nothing is deducted from her check.

User currently offlineChe From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1215 times:

I non-rev on AA but I am a D3, so I have to pay. My grandma is a D2 but I am sure what the charge is for her.
che


User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4364 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

Wait a minute? If your father or mother is an airline pilot or a F/a for AA, their children, spouses, and parents cannot fly free on AA? Whoa, that totally sucks.

I think so. Maybe you guys are talking about something different then this. It's part of the benefits. Oh well.

Kevin/DCA



SIX T'S!......TURN. TIME. TWIST. THROTTLE. TALK. TRACK.
User currently offlinePurdue Arrow From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1574 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

Gocaps - As has been said pretty clearly, AA does not offer free travel to anyone (employee, parents, spouses, dependants, etc.) unless the employee has been with the company for at least 5 years. Until an employee's 5th anniversary, they get only highly discounted tickets. By highly discounted, I believe that the domestic tickets cost approx $.005/mile, or about $15 for a SAN-JFK flight. First and Business Class travel is available at a similar discount.

After an employee has been with the company for 5 years, D2 coach travel in the "domestic" system, as defined above by CannedSpam, is also free of charge. First and Business Class travel, however, do not get any cheaper; nor does international travel.

After an employee's 25th anniversary, coach travel becomes free systemwide, and First and Business Class fares are discounted by the amount of money that new employees pay in coach.

As an example:

Domestic: For a domestic trip that costs about $10 for coach, and about $25 in First:
An employee with 0-5 years would pay: $10Y, $25F
An employee with 5-25 years would pay: $0Y, $25F
An employee with >25 years would pay: $0Y, $15F

International: European flights are approx. $75Y, $100J, $150F
An employee with 0-5 years would pay: $75Y, $100J, $150F
An employee with 5-25 years would pay: $75Y, $100J, $150F
An employee with >25 years would pay: $0Y, $25J, $75F

The same fares apply to all D-2 travellers, including spouses and dependants.
The fares provided are examples, and do not necessarily reflect actual D2 charges.


User currently offlineJderden777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1757 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1190 times:

I guess that's how i get to travel free on AA then...my dad's cousin is a 777 captain for AA and he's been with the company for a long time now..i forget but it's well over 5 years..possible 20+ years he's worked for AA...
i am a D3 and they never charged me anything for the seat on the CLT-DFW-CLT flights...

on another note, if i were to non-rev from CLT-ORD, spend the day at ORD, and then non-rev from ORD-DFW later that day where would my luggage go?? could i do this, leaving myself a long layover in ORD? DFW is my final destination from CLT, and i plan on returning to CLT the next week



"my soul is in the sky" - shakespeare
User currently offlineUSflt1778 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 269 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1181 times:

At US Airways there is a $55 annual fee for your Term Pass, which allows unlimited travel anywhere on the route system. For trips to Europe and Caribbean you must pay the taxes (anywhere from $15 to $40) but it's still a great deal.

Parents, Spouse, Domestic Partner, and/or Dependent Children can also be added to the Term Pass for an additional fee, however an employee will NEVER pay more than $185 per year for their term pass.

Employee and Spouse/DP receive their own travel card which is presented at check-in. Parents and dependents are treated as e-tickets and just have to show ID to get on the standby list.

For those that don't travel a lot, you can opt for "Service Charge" travel instead of a Term Pass. This is $20 round trip and is available to the same people as the Term Pass (e.g., employee, parents, spouse/DP, kids). However, taking more than 2 Service Charge trips makes the Term Pass a better deal.

Currently US gives 8 roundtrip companion passes (buddy passes) per calendar year, sold at 10% of the full Y fare. Sometimes a discounted advance purchase ticket is a better bargain than the buddy pass!

All term pass riders are classified as S-4 on the standby list, and companions are S-7 unless accompanying someone on the term pass (when they get to be S-4).

Upgrades to first are $15 (up to 999 miles) or $30 (over 1000 miles). International upgrades are $100 for Envoy and $150 for First, each way.

As far as the dress code is concerned, it has been relaxed over the past few years, however I never wear jeans or sneakers or other overly 'casual' clothing on a plane (even when I flew as a revenue customer). The nicer you look, the better your chances of being treated well by not only airline employees, but also hotels, car rentals, etc. Maybe it was the way I was raised, but for us travel was always a special event and my parents had us looking nice for the occasion. Even something simple - like khakis and a button-down shirt - are fine in my opinion.


User currently offlineAA7771stClass From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 296 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1173 times:

Why would you not want to take a direct from Charlotte to DFW? It seems that this would be easier. From a non-rev standpoint, I would strongly recommend that you carry-on your bags. That is what we do every single time we fly because who knows where you or your bags will go!?!?

25 CannedSpam : Although your dad's cousin may not have charged you, rest assured that he himself is being charged for your use of a D3 pass. D3 passes are not free t
26 Jderden777 : I would have a carry-on with my camera and everything, but i would also literally have to have a suitcase with my clothes and everything... AA7771stCl
27 CannedSpam : First Class or Coach cost the same when traveling D3...So be sure to list for First Class! Approximate D3 charge CLT-ORD-DFW is about $97.00 per perso
28 Post contains images Jderden777 : Cannedspam: thanks a lot! where do you get this info!? i'll try and get first class on the 777 but i'm not sure that it's available still...thanks!
29 AA7771stClass : Tell me your date and time of travel and I'll have my mom look your flights up in Sabre.
30 CannedSpam : Jonathan, I'm work for AA....That's where the information comes from.
31 Patroni : Just a thought : Are you sure that your airlines would appreciate that you post their nonrev regulations here in a public forum? At least in Europe th
32 Jderden777 : i'm planning on AA 2347 ORD-DFW and on the way back 2248 i think DFW-ORD june 15-21 or 22..not sure which one yet.. thanks jonathan d.
33 AA7771stClass : I had my mom look up your flights. As of now, first class looks open on your trip down to Dallas but who knows how that will fill up over time and wit
34 Jderden777 : i'll probly head back the 21st then...hmm.. thanks! jonathan d.
35 Questioning : Seems like United has the best Non-Rev policies...
36 Srbmod : As for non-rev dress codes, I'm all for them. I've seen too many people on flights today dressed like they're going down to the supermarket, not to th
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