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User currently offlineSeeTheWorld From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1325 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 18043 times:

Delta has just announced new service between New York and Reykjavik beginning June 1, 2011 with daily 757 service.

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25786 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 18057 times:

Interesting, however seems to me this is a very niche and seasonal market. After all however many people actually make Iceland their destination?

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Quote:
Delta Air Lines to Connect New York, Iceland

NEW YORK, Aug. 6 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Delta Air Lines today announced new nonstop service between New York and Reykjavik, Iceland, beginning June 1, 2011.* When service begins, Delta will be the only U.S. carrier to serve Iceland nonstop from the United States.

The flight, between John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York and Keflavik International Airport inReykjavik, will be operated with a 170-seat Boeing 757-200 aircraft with 15 seats in BusinessElite and 155 seats in Economy.


Full story:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Delta-...ct-prnews-1184902081.html?x=0&.v=1



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User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1250 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17991 times:

Given that the flight originates in MSP (route MSP-JFK-KEF) it seems like DL is trying to link two US areas that have services from Icelandair. And with the announcement that Iceland Express is looking to expand it might get interesting.

Additionally, the volcano issue earlier this year raised the profile of Iceland as a destination among some travelers.



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17983 times:

This was the surprise of the day, and a route from Delta I didn't see coming at all!  Wow!

User currently onlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12256 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17929 times:
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And still nothing to OSL.... Damn you Delta!


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User currently onlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5634 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17861 times:

Iceland may become a mini-bloodbath next year. But, I guess it may be a great getaway if the prices hit rock bottom.

-Dave



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User currently offlinepeanuts From Netherlands, joined Dec 2009, 1442 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17822 times:

Makes sense. Some of us speculated this a while back.
I think it needs to continue on to AMS though.



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User currently onlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5634 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17723 times:

Quoting peanuts (Reply 6):
I think it needs to continue on to AMS though.

Is Iceland open skies with the US? Just curious.

-Dave



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17644 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 7):
Is Iceland open skies with the US? Just curious.

Yes, same agreement as with the EU and US. Norway and Iceland joined in on this deal as EEA members


User currently offlineiliribdl From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17648 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 4):
And still nothing to OSL.... Damn you Delta!

Haha, Kai, I'm sure it's next in line.  



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User currently offlinepeanuts From Netherlands, joined Dec 2009, 1442 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17593 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 7):
Is Iceland open skies with the US? Just curious.

As far as I know yes.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-mar...and-to-join-open-skiespact-with-us

Edit: I believe this was an October 2009 article.

[Edited 2010-08-06 10:39:44]


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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17671 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17600 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 5):
Iceland may become a mini-bloodbath next year. But, I guess it may be a great getaway if the prices hit rock bottom.

I suspect NYCKEF will go from dirt cheap to near free with DL, until DL leaves and fares go back to dirt cheap. Good time to visit Iceland though!



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User currently offlinejetsetter629 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17436 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 11):
I suspect NYCKEF will go from dirt cheap to near free with DL, until DL leaves and fares go back to dirt cheap. Good time to visit Iceland though!

I hope so as there are now 3 airlines on the NYC - KEF market. Unlike Icelandair and Iceland Express, Delta will pull only O&D traffic. While Icelandair and Iceland Express are cheap transatlantic, they are both expensive if Iceland is your destination


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25786 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17435 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 5):
Iceland may become a mini-bloodbath next year

Looks like the NY-KEF market will go from todays basically 2x daily to 4x daily next summer with DL, Iceland Express and Icelandair all increasing service.

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 7):
Is Iceland open skies with the US? Just curious.

Yes since 1995, one of the first US open-skies partners.



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User currently offlinepeanuts From Netherlands, joined Dec 2009, 1442 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17398 times:

I'm actually a bit dumbfounded.
I think the only way this route could work long term is to attack it from both ends, JFK and AMS. With SkyTeam partners KL/AF and JV/ATI in place, supporting Iceland form both ends may make it actually a true winner.

It would also seem more practical fleet/crew planning wise.



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6793 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17397 times:

Quoting jetsetter629 (Reply 12):
Unlike Icelandair and Iceland Express, Delta will pull only O&D traffic. While Icelandair and Iceland Express are cheap transatlantic, they are both expensive if Iceland is your destination

Well, Delta can pull traffic from their domestic system while Icelandair and Iceland Express have less opportunity for that -- but they benefit from their networks beyond KEF to Europe. Delta has access to a broader array of the U.S., while the Icelandic carriers have access to Europe.


User currently offlineweb500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17332 times:
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finally an american airline visits iceland!


way to go DL, hope more airlines join in.



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User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2473 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17225 times:
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Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 5):
But, I guess it may be a great getaway if the prices hit rock bottom.

You need cheap fares to there to be able to afford to be there lol.

I see a bit of overcapacity coming to Iceland, but we will see......



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User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9559 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17222 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 4):
And still nothing to OSL.... Damn you Delta!

Delta wouldn't start OSL till summer..........I think it comes next year, we shall find out this NOV.

Cool route from Delta.



yep.
User currently offlineipodguy7 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17117 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):
After all however many people actually make Iceland their destination?

Well, coming from a city where most people have never heard of iceland (Nashville, TN), I know many families not including my own (we went to Iceland in 05) that have been to Iceland and loved it. Don't overlook Iceland, out of my travels to 25+ countries, Iceland is definetly one of my favorites. Takk Friyr (Thank you) Delta for starting this service! Besides the point that the Kronur (Icelandic currency) is now down to 117.75 per dollar, when we went in 2005, it was $1=70 kroner, hence now is a great time to visit Iceland on the cheap
-ipodguy7

[Edited 2010-08-06 11:12:58]


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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2731 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 17069 times:

Is this is an aircraft change in JFK or the same plane from MSP-JFK?

User currently offlinekurbitur From Iceland, joined May 2010, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 16948 times:

Does anyone know if the new JFK-KEF will be seasonal or all-year?

User currently offlineLAXtoATL From United States of America, joined exactly 5 years ago today! , 1603 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 16395 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 20):
Is this is an aircraft change in JFK or the same plane from MSP-JFK?

Disclaimer: The following is my opinion.

I am almost certain the MSP-JFK portion would have to be a different aircraft. The JFK-KEF roundtrip segments can be operated with a single aircraft. Adding MSP would require an additional airframe and I just don't see them doing it, surely their international 757s can be better utilized elsewhere.


User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7311 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 16387 times:
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Don't the national airlines from Iceland already do this route very well? Another dart thrown by Delta?   


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User currently offlineaf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2696 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 16334 times:

Hopefully Icelandair will continue to serve MSP. Yes there a lot of loyal Delta flyers, but on Icelandair its non-stop and cheap connections to other destinations in Europe.


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25 enilria : I don't think this will last either. I think DL will lose for two reasons. 1) The history of other carriers operating to Iceland is basically all fai
26 SurfandSnow : Very exciting! I remember a recent thread on a.net where somebody asked if a U.S. carrier would ever serve Iceland, and most a.netters quickly dismiss
27 Super80 : Um.... I am thinking. Since this is one of the JV routes with AF/KL/AZ...Can Delta continue its service from KEF to either AMS/CDG/FCO?? What do you t
28 eaa3 : Air Berlin and Germanwings have quite a few flights from Germany to Iceland that are basically only for tourists and those seem to work out. With Delt
29 DeltAirlines : Agreed. While the 737-700 does not have BusinessElite seats, it is well within the range of a 737-700, and Delta does have longer 737-700 internation
30 clemsonaj : Agreed. The A320 or the 737 with about 20-30 fewer seats would be better suited for the route. Does DL have any that are ETOPS rated though? It proba
31 Post contains images catiii : How so? The Icelandic economy is in massive crisis, and the yields have to be junk. The way Icelandair makes it work is they connect people through t
32 clemsonaj : Apparently we were thinking the same thing at about the same time.
33 eaa3 : I believe you can fly to Iceland with ETOPS 120.
34 iliribdl : Is that when an announcement for new routes is usually made? Just curious.
35 ScottB : It can be done with ETOPS-60 if you're willing to divert north over Greenland. Agreed, and I do not see the demand for BusinessElite seats to Iceland
36 Post contains links g2scandinavia : Congratulations with a new service to the US! This is a thread for the new service from Delta, but since many members trows in OSL as a potential dest
37 Post contains images kurbitur : Icelanders are not loyal to an airline that charge $ 1000 as minumum price for a return ticket to the States but $ 400 for return ticket for an ameri
38 prebennorholm : No, it isn't so. Icelandic prices in Kronur just went up - they roughly doubled since 2005. For instance the same dinner for the same three persons a
39 BMI727 : Even a -800 with the right equipment could probably make it (it's shorter than ANC-ORD). Of course, the other potential factor is cargo, which while
40 nwaesc : You were around for the NW MSP-OSL train wreck, right?
41 catiii : Are we sure about that? Anyone know what the contract says?
42 Viscount724 : US-Iceland has been Open Skies since 1995. Norway (along with Denmark and Sweden) also reached Open Skies agreements with the US in 1995, as did abou
43 gardermoen : I can't see this doing well in the most of the winter season (with the exception around Christmas/NY vacation time). Who really picks winter as the ti
44 eaa3 : It happened when a certain volcano erupted earlier this year but generally this only happens once every couple of years. Keflavik actually closes les
45 Lightbug : There must be. Being a connecting passenger through any point is most of the time an inconvenience. So FI has made this work being a competitive opti
46 eaa3 : No the prices have not kept up with the devaluation so for people paying in dollars, euros and so forth Iceland is cheaper than it has been in a long
47 MAH4546 : It means zilch. All flights operated by Delta, KLM, Air France and Alitalia are metal-neutral and profit shared and every PR has this at the end.
48 Viscount724 : Since DL will be the only SkyTeam operator to KEF, it doesn't seem to make much sense to share whatever profits may (or may not) result with other Sk
49 prebennorholm : KEF weather diverts are rare. They suffer substantially less fog than most central European airports. The snow season is longer but very heavy snowfa
50 web500sjc : or the route could be subsidized the JV- it adds more delta metal on to the trans-antlantic routes (aren't the JV profits split by percentage of meta
51 goldorak : Every "wedding" is for the better and the worse. So if each partner starts to say "OK guys, I'm excluding this route because I'm making too much mone
52 MAH4546 : No, it wouldn't. Why carve out one route from the joint venture and create such inefficiencies? This is clearly a reactive response to all the added
53 smoot4208 : This route should've been flown with either a 737/738/319/320. Poor waste of a 75W if you ask me.
54 Post contains images eaa3 : It's also worth noting that domestic flights in Iceland never have enough fuel to go to Scotland. They do have enought fuel to fly to their destinati
55 Lightbug : That is what I thought too.
56 alphaomega : Yes, GLA is the alternate for many of the FI flights - I used to do flight planning for them. There have been a few times where the weather was clear
57 prebennorholm : Think of it this way, Iceland exports aluminum and fish and very little else. Practically everything else has to be imported and payed with Euro, Dol
58 BMI727 : I can't imagine that this would be a year round flight, unless DL can get a lot of Icelandic people heading to Florida. Either way, how often is the
59 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : Sorry, that's not correct. See the following thread from 2006 where many FI flights were diverted to GLA due to weather in Iceland. http://qa.airline
60 N9801F : Actually, I remember this one. It seemed full enough to be a great summer-only 757...
61 prebennorholm : Right. Domestic flights in Iceland is mostly served by Fokker F-50s, or even smaller planes. There are many places which can accept a diverted F-50.
62 prebennorholm : Quoted from that thread (poster Asgeirs in Iceland): To my best of knowledge, this it the first time in 4 years that international flights to Iceland
63 KaiGywer : Actually I still lived in Norway at the time, and had no connections to the US at all. That being said, a DC10 is too much plane for the route. Now w
64 Post contains images N9801F : Also, SK runs ARN-ORD, CPH-ORD, and CPH-IAD, no? The poor availability of trans-Atlantic service from OSL surprises me, too, even after you account f
65 deltal1011man : sure, they could do so with out the JV. No DL 800s are ETOPSed but around 15 or so ships could be. I believe the same is the 700 fleet, they *could*
66 phklm : Interesting move by DL. Isn't it a tad short for a eastbound overnight flight? I would assume it's even possible to squeeze this schedule into an ent
67 eaa3 : Most European bound flights have this schedule i.e. are night flights. Yeah but furthermore it must then be the case that even in a huge storm there
68 kurbitur : If there is a bad weather in one part of Iceland, than it's calm on the other part of the island So diverting to GLA needs bigger problem than the wea
69 enilria : I would have thought they'd have a Caribbean or Latin narrow body with ETOPS. I've heard that before in 100 cases (in other hubs), but FI will match
70 peanuts : If FI had to match or undercut on price with DL on certain routes, FI would bleed faster than DL. Somehow, I'd think DL could play that game longer a
71 eaa3 : This sounds interesting. Why would they want Icelandair to join SkyTeam though. I mean when Icelandair sells tickets from mainland Europe to North Am
72 peanuts : Answer: . KLM flies to more of Scandinavia from AMS as compared to FI from KEF. FI may just be a nice "addition" for SkyTeam. Most of FI's Europe-KEF
73 EricR : They will not open a hub in Iceland. They do not need a hub in Iceland. Who are they going to connect in Iceland that they can't already connect thro
74 KaiGywer : Problem with that schedule is pretty much no connections possible on either end, hence making it 100% reliant on NYC traffic. By doing what DL is doi
75 AirNovaBAe146 : Amen. The inbound cargo to Iceland is quite lucrative. That is a big reason why FI keeps the 757, when a B738 or B739 could do a lot of its route net
76 catiii : Anyone at DL have any info on JFK-Europe routes that DL competes with IceAir on? I'm guessing DL is trying to drive IceAir out of the NYC market becau
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