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Delta Tokyo NRT - Palau Service  
User currently offlineCapt.Fantastic From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 717 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5753 times:

Greetings:

Does anyone have information on Delta's planned service from Tokyo Narita to Palau?
I read it will be a 767-300 - Where will the flight originate? / Frequency?
I could not find an airport ICAO code, someone kindly provide it and share any info about this destination. Thanks  

Jim

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User currently offlinetpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5726 times:

It is a 752 NRT-ROR I believe 4X a week.

I was kinda hopeing to see CO do something (ideally NRT-DPS) but I suspect with the UA deal ther eare bigger issues to deal with.

Regardless, NRT-ROR and NGO-HNL both are forays into CMI country.


User currently offlineCapt.Fantastic From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 717 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5503 times:

It would be nice to see more weekly or seasonal service to paradise-like destinations in the Pacific, like Air New Zealand's weekly flights LAX - RAR and LAX - APW
What destinations in the region could see consideration from a US carrier?

Quoting tpaewr (Reply 1):

I was kinda hopeing to see CO do something (ideally NRT-DPS) but I suspect with the UA deal ther eare bigger issues to deal with.


User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5481 times:

I am wondering if this will become a JV with AF? It would seem like a good match.

Dave



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User currently offlineCapt.Fantastic From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 717 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5438 times:

What is CMI?

Quoting tpaewr (Reply 1):
Regardless, NRT-ROR and NGO-HNL both are forays into CMI country.


User currently offlineEI2KSEA From Ireland, joined Jul 2004, 578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5404 times:

CMI is ICAO code for Continental Micronesia (Air Mike).


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User currently offlinetpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5404 times:

CO/CMI is about Japanese leisure traffic. I am not familiar with RAR or APW, do they see much/any traffic from Japan?

Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Reply 2):
It would be nice to see more weekly or seasonal service to paradise-like destinations in the Pacific, like Air New Zealand's weekly flights LAX - RAR and LAX - APW
What destinations in the region could see consideration from a US carrier?

I believe you are thinking of NOU, this is aimed a Japanese divers

Quoting davescj (Reply 3):
I am wondering if this will become a JV with AF? It would seem like a good match.


User currently onlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8123 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5373 times:

Quoting tpaewr (Reply 1):

Regardless, NRT-ROR and NGO-HNL both are forays into CMI country.

Air Mike gave up on NGO-HNL way back in 2006 and in so doing left JAL as the only carrier on the route.



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User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9317 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5050 times:

Quoting davescj (Reply 3):

No.
No TPACs are or will be covered under the JV except 3x weekly LAX-PPT.  



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User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2862 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5026 times:

I think this move is a very interesting one - DL is clearly trying to strengthen its NRT hub as much as possible before the UA/CO merger goes through, giving UA a strong presence from NRT to key markets like GUM and NYC. If UA goes after some of the narrowbody a/c slots that DL is using with these 757 flights, they may try to open up flights to markets like SPN, ROR, etc.


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User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1619 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4889 times:

ROR ICAO is PTRO I have also heard DL will run GUM-HNL they really want CO Mike Gone...

Hope fully UA/CO will add some 747-400's to MNL and give DL a fight..

the Airport is located on Babelthuap Island, connected to Koror Island via a bridge

[Edited 2010-08-10 01:52:59]

User currently offlinetpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4794 times:

Quoting COSPN (Reply 10):
ROR ICAO is PTRO I have also heard DL will run GUM-HNL they really want CO Mike Gone...

Hope fully UA/CO will add some 747-400's to MNL and give DL a fight..

I also think DL wants to do as much as damage poss before UA/CO can get organized. But, I doubt they srsly believe they are gonna dislodge CO from Micronesia, attacking a 40+ y/o de facto monopoly isn't a clever use of resources! Save getting some low-lying fruit such as we've seen.


I would be very suprised if we didn't see something NRT-MNL.....but I'll bet on a 738, or 764 at most, rather than a 3 cabin 744!


User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9317 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 9):
I think this move is a very interesting one - DL is clearly trying to strengthen its NRT hub as much as possible before the UA/CO merger goes through, giving UA a strong presence from NRT to key markets like GUM and NYC. If UA goes after some of the narrowbody a/c slots that DL is using with these 757 flights, they may try to open up flights to markets like SPN, ROR, etc.
Quoting tpaewr (Reply 11):
.
I don't think 1) they will and 2) there are any slots of any kind at NRT open.
I also think DL wants to do as much as damage poss before UA/CO can get organized. But, I doubt they srsly believe they are gonna dislodge CO from Micronesia, attacking a 40+ y/o de facto monopoly isn't a clever use of resources! Save getting some low-lying fruit such as we've seen.

Delta says its Asian beach market is making alot money and the expect to keep it growing.

Quoting tpaewr (Reply 11):

I would be very suprised if we didn't see something NRT-MNL.....but I'll bet on a 738, or 764 at most, rather than a 3 cabin 744!

agree, but doesn't UA have 4 classes on its 744? F/C/W/Y

Quoting COSPN (Reply 10):
I have also heard DL will run GUM-HNL t

I bet that one does happen.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4429 times:

Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 12):

agree, but doesn't UA have 4 classes on its 744? F/C/W/Y

Really three cabins. The only difference between E+ and E- is the legroom - seat/service is the exact same, unlike a true W product where it's an improved seat and slightly improved service.


User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4399 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 13):
Really three cabins. The only difference between E+ and E- is the legroom - seat/service is the exact same, unlike a true W product where it's an improved seat and slightly improved service.

Uh UA has an actual F, C, Y classes on their 744's. This doesn't include E+



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User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9317 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4388 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 14):

Uh UA has an actual F, C, Y classes on their 744's. This doesn't include E+

By this UA does in fact have 4 class 744s

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni...ited_Airlines_Boeing_747-400_B.php

F/C/W*/Y

*not like Deltairlines said its only leg room but still could be called W.

(PS what does UA call its Y+? is it W like alot of other airlines or something other than that?)



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6743 posts, RR: 32
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4347 times:

Quoting tpaewr (Reply 1):
I was kinda hopeing to see CO do something (ideally NRT-DPS)

I don't really see that happening until GUM-DPS returns.

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 9):
DL is clearly trying to strengthen its NRT hub as much as possible before the UA/CO merger goes through, giving UA a strong presence from NRT to key markets like GUM and NYC.

The CO merger doesn't really add much to UA's NRT presence that they can't already get from ANA. I think this is just DL being opportunistic; they can access Japanese beach traffic as well as U.S.-originating dive traffic to Palau with one stop fewer than CO from most destinations.


User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4118 times:

Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 8):
No.
No TPACs are or will be covered under the JV except 3x weekly LAX-PPT.  

I didn't know that there were no TPACs. What is the reason? DOJ won't approve? I would think NRT/PPT and those sorts of routes would be a great JV.

What was the reason for only TATL JVs orginally?

As so many others have said, I'm sure DL would like to push Air Mike out of some of those routes. I think the UA/CO could well strengthen Air Mike, however.

Dave



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User currently offlinehnl-jack From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 819 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

Quoting COSPN (Reply 10):
I have also heard DL will run GUM-HNL they really want CO Mike Gone...

Unlikely. CMI is well intrenched in GUM and while the flights are packed on the HNL flights there simply isn't enough traffic to support two carriers. Others have tried and failed. However, DL might consider GUM - SFO a few days a week. With the military buildup in GUM and strong local family ties in SFO, this could be successful. CMI has been putting off
a nonstop to the west coast for years and chooses to funnel traffic through HNL.



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User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9317 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3364 times:

Quoting davescj (Reply 17):

I didn't know that there were no TPACs. What is the reason? DOJ won't approve? I would think NRT/PPT and those sorts of routes would be a great JV.

Guess they just don't want to.....and PPT is under the JV, but thats the only one.

Quoting hnl-jack (Reply 18):

Unlikely. CMI is well intrenched in GUM and while the flights are packed on the HNL flights there simply isn't enough traffic to support two carriers. Others have tried and failed. However, DL might consider GUM - SFO a few days a week. With the military buildup in GUM and strong local family ties in SFO, this could be successful. CMI has been putting off
a nonstop to the west coast for years and chooses to funnel traffic through HNL.

If DL did a mainland to GUM flight it would likely be LAX-GUM with the same flt. number to SFO.



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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22867 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3328 times:

Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 19):
If DL did a mainland to GUM flight it would likely be LAX-GUM with the same flt. number to SFO.

Seems to me like that's saying "if DL flew to PUQ, it would be from ATL." It may be true, but there's no reason for them to open any route from the mainland to GUM.



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User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9317 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3315 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 20):

Seems to me like that's saying "if DL flew to PUQ, it would be from ATL." It may be true, but there's no reason for them to open any route from the mainland to GUM.

agreed



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User currently offlinepapatango From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3300 times:

When are we going to see Jakarta-Kuala Lumpur-Canton etc from NRT?

User currently offlinedlflynhayn From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 424 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3249 times:

Quoting papatango (Reply 22):

When are we going to see Jakarta-Kuala Lumpur-Canton etc from NRT


Would love Jakarta or anywhere in Indonesia to cut down on my surfing trip flight times to the Mentawai Islands,going thru Singapore(if you make it that far non-reving) on DL then buying ID90 fares on Garuda Indonesia takes just to loooong...


User currently offlineUSXguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1013 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3156 times:

You can't book directly into UA's Economy Plus, its an option and not necessarily marked as a 'class' of its own per IATA standards.

Y+ is for elites in UA's program and for those who opt to purchase the seat at time of check-in or in advance, if offered.



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25 Cubsrule : Do those who purchase refundable tickets no longer get Y+ seats?
26 Post contains images deltal1011man : ah ok.......so ill call it 3 and 1/2 class
27 Schweigend : Unless they really want to get under the new UA's skin...to fight over the prize of GUM and worry the competitor. (I wish I could go to PUQ--on my wa
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