Capt.Fantastic From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 648 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5074 times:
Greetings:
Does anyone have information on Delta's planned service from Tokyo Narita to Palau?
I read it will be a 767-300 - Where will the flight originate? / Frequency?
I could not find an airport ICAO code, someone kindly provide it and share any info about this destination. Thanks
tpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 440 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5047 times:
It is a 752 NRT-ROR I believe 4X a week.
I was kinda hopeing to see CO do something (ideally NRT-DPS) but I suspect with the UA deal ther eare bigger issues to deal with.
Regardless, NRT-ROR and NGO-HNL both are forays into CMI country.
Capt.Fantastic From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 648 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4824 times:
It would be nice to see more weekly or seasonal service to paradise-like destinations in the Pacific, like Air New Zealand's weekly flights LAX - RAR and LAX - APW
What destinations in the region could see consideration from a US carrier?
Quoting tpaewr (Reply 1):
I was kinda hopeing to see CO do something (ideally NRT-DPS) but I suspect with the UA deal ther eare bigger issues to deal with.
davescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2244 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4802 times:
I am wondering if this will become a JV with AF? It would seem like a good match.
Capt.Fantastic From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 648 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4759 times:
What is CMI?
Quoting tpaewr (Reply 1): Regardless, NRT-ROR and NGO-HNL both are forays into CMI country.
tpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 440 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4725 times:
CO/CMI is about Japanese leisure traffic. I am not familiar with RAR or APW, do they see much/any traffic from Japan?
Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Reply 2): It would be nice to see more weekly or seasonal service to paradise-like destinations in the Pacific, like Air New Zealand's weekly flights LAX - RAR and LAX - APW
What destinations in the region could see consideration from a US carrier?
I believe you are thinking of NOU, this is aimed a Japanese divers
Quoting davescj (Reply 3): I am wondering if this will become a JV with AF? It would seem like a good match.
deltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8589 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4371 times:
SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2588 posts, RR: 31 Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4347 times:
I think this move is a very interesting one - DL is clearly trying to strengthen its NRT hub as much as possible before the UA/CO merger goes through, giving UA a strong presence from NRT to key markets like GUM and NYC. If UA goes after some of the narrowbody a/c slots that DL is using with these 757 flights, they may try to open up flights to markets like SPN, ROR, etc.
Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
COSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1473 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4210 times:
ROR ICAO is PTRO I have also heard DL will run GUM-HNL they really want CO Mike Gone...
Hope fully UA/CO will add some 747-400's to MNL and give DL a fight..
the Airport is located on Babelthuap Island, connected to Koror Island via a bridge
tpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 440 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4115 times:
Quoting COSPN (Reply 10): ROR ICAO is PTRO I have also heard DL will run GUM-HNL they really want CO Mike Gone...
Hope fully UA/CO will add some 747-400's to MNL and give DL a fight..
I also think DL wants to do as much as damage poss before UA/CO can get organized. But, I doubt they srsly believe they are gonna dislodge CO from Micronesia, attacking a 40+ y/o de facto monopoly isn't a clever use of resources! Save getting some low-lying fruit such as we've seen.
I would be very suprised if we didn't see something NRT-MNL.....but I'll bet on a 738, or 764 at most, rather than a 3 cabin 744!
deltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8589 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3915 times:
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 9): I think this move is a very interesting one - DL is clearly trying to strengthen its NRT hub as much as possible before the UA/CO merger goes through, giving UA a strong presence from NRT to key markets like GUM and NYC. If UA goes after some of the narrowbody a/c slots that DL is using with these 757 flights, they may try to open up flights to markets like SPN, ROR, etc.
Quoting tpaewr (Reply 11): .
I don't think 1) they will and 2) there are any slots of any kind at NRT open.
I also think DL wants to do as much as damage poss before UA/CO can get organized. But, I doubt they srsly believe they are gonna dislodge CO from Micronesia, attacking a 40+ y/o de facto monopoly isn't a clever use of resources! Save getting some low-lying fruit such as we've seen.
Delta says its Asian beach market is making alot money and the expect to keep it growing.
Quoting tpaewr (Reply 11):
I would be very suprised if we didn't see something NRT-MNL.....but I'll bet on a 738, or 764 at most, rather than a 3 cabin 744!
agree, but doesn't UA have 4 classes on its 744? F/C/W/Y
Quoting COSPN (Reply 10): I have also heard DL will run GUM-HNL t
I bet that one does happen.
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DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 8771 posts, RR: 13 Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3750 times:
Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 12):
agree, but doesn't UA have 4 classes on its 744? F/C/W/Y
Really three cabins. The only difference between E+ and E- is the legroom - seat/service is the exact same, unlike a true W product where it's an improved seat and slightly improved service.
burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7411 posts, RR: 9 Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3720 times:
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 13): Really three cabins. The only difference between E+ and E- is the legroom - seat/service is the exact same, unlike a true W product where it's an improved seat and slightly improved service.
Uh UA has an actual F, C, Y classes on their 744's. This doesn't include E+
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deltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8589 posts, RR: 8 Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3709 times:
Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 14):
Uh UA has an actual F, C, Y classes on their 744's. This doesn't include E+
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6363 posts, RR: 34 Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3668 times:
Quoting tpaewr (Reply 1): I was kinda hopeing to see CO do something (ideally NRT-DPS)
I don't really see that happening until GUM-DPS returns.
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 9): DL is clearly trying to strengthen its NRT hub as much as possible before the UA/CO merger goes through, giving UA a strong presence from NRT to key markets like GUM and NYC.
The CO merger doesn't really add much to UA's NRT presence that they can't already get from ANA. I think this is just DL being opportunistic; they can access Japanese beach traffic as well as U.S.-originating dive traffic to Palau with one stop fewer than CO from most destinations.
davescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2244 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3439 times:
Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 8): No.
No TPACs are or will be covered under the JV except 3x weekly LAX-PPT.
I didn't know that there were no TPACs. What is the reason? DOJ won't approve? I would think NRT/PPT and those sorts of routes would be a great JV.
What was the reason for only TATL JVs orginally?
As so many others have said, I'm sure DL would like to push Air Mike out of some of those routes. I think the UA/CO could well strengthen Air Mike, however.
hnl-jack From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 795 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2974 times:
Quoting COSPN (Reply 10): I have also heard DL will run GUM-HNL they really want CO Mike Gone...
Unlikely. CMI is well intrenched in GUM and while the flights are packed on the HNL flights there simply isn't enough traffic to support two carriers. Others have tried and failed. However, DL might consider GUM - SFO a few days a week. With the military buildup in GUM and strong local family ties in SFO, this could be successful. CMI has been putting off
a nonstop to the west coast for years and chooses to funnel traffic through HNL.
Grew up in the business and continued the family tradition.
deltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8589 posts, RR: 8 Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2685 times:
Quoting davescj (Reply 17):
I didn't know that there were no TPACs. What is the reason? DOJ won't approve? I would think NRT/PPT and those sorts of routes would be a great JV.
Guess they just don't want to.....and PPT is under the JV, but thats the only one.
Quoting hnl-jack (Reply 18):
Unlikely. CMI is well intrenched in GUM and while the flights are packed on the HNL flights there simply isn't enough traffic to support two carriers. Others have tried and failed. However, DL might consider GUM - SFO a few days a week. With the military buildup in GUM and strong local family ties in SFO, this could be successful. CMI has been putting off
a nonstop to the west coast for years and chooses to funnel traffic through HNL.
If DL did a mainland to GUM flight it would likely be LAX-GUM with the same flt. number to SFO.
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Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21242 posts, RR: 19 Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2649 times:
Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 19): If DL did a mainland to GUM flight it would likely be LAX-GUM with the same flt. number to SFO.
Seems to me like that's saying "if DL flew to PUQ, it would be from ATL." It may be true, but there's no reason for them to open any route from the mainland to GUM.
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deltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8589 posts, RR: 8 Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2636 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 20):
Seems to me like that's saying "if DL flew to PUQ, it would be from ATL." It may be true, but there's no reason for them to open any route from the mainland to GUM.
agreed
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papatango From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2621 times:
When are we going to see Jakarta-Kuala Lumpur-Canton etc from NRT?
dlflynhayn From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 354 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2570 times:
Quoting papatango (Reply 22):
When are we going to see Jakarta-Kuala Lumpur-Canton etc from NRT
Would love Jakarta or anywhere in Indonesia to cut down on my surfing trip flight times to the Mentawai Islands,going thru Singapore(if you make it that far non-reving) on DL then buying ID90 fares on Garuda Indonesia takes just to loooong...
USXguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 832 posts, RR: 6 Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2477 times:
You can't book directly into UA's Economy Plus, its an option and not necessarily marked as a 'class' of its own per IATA standards.
Y+ is for elites in UA's program and for those who opt to purchase the seat at time of check-in or in advance, if offered.
xx
25 Cubsrule: Do those who purchase refundable tickets no longer get Y+ seats?
26 deltal1011man: ah ok.......so ill call it 3 and 1/2 class
27 Schweigend: Unless they really want to get under the new UA's skin...to fight over the prize of GUM and worry the competitor. (I wish I could go to PUQ--on my wa
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