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Easyjet Adds Luxor To It's Route Network  
User currently offlineBAfan From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 189 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4377 times:

Easyjet has this week announced a new service from LGW to Luxor.

An interesting move for the Winter schedule. Are we likely to continue to see Easyjet expanding further afield going forward?

Perhaps we might see Cairo in the network in the not too distant future.

What are people thinking?

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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19227 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day ago) and read 4213 times:

Quoting BAfan (Thread starter):
Perhaps we might see Cairo in the network in the not too distant future.

   Me thinks not due to protectionism! Why do you think Air Arabia Egypt has not been granted permission to fly from CAI?



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2865 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day ago) and read 4180 times:

Quoting BAfan (Thread starter):
Are we likely to continue to see Easyjet expanding further afield going forward?

Absolutely! There are only so many opportunities within the E.U. I daresay you can make more money flying to VFR markets like TLV, SAW, and CMN than flying competitive intra-European routes or shuttling cheapskate tourists from England and Germany to Spain!

Quoting BAfan (Thread starter):
Perhaps we might see Cairo in the network in the not too distant future.

Most certainly not! With regards to CAI, Egypt is notoriously stingy with traffic rights for foreign flag carriers, whilst being entirely off limits to LCCs. When I was trying to travel from Bahrain to Cairo, I saved hundreds of dollars flying Bahrain Air to ALY and then taking the train from Alexandria to Cairo. Many budget conscious tourists do this too. Not only do you save on airfare, but you also end up right downtown at Ramses Station rather than way out in Heliopolis by CAI. As long as Egypt seeks to protect EgyptAir, you won't see ANY LCCs at CAI.



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3823 times:

Easyjet have applied to the CAA for 3xWeek LGW-CAI for this winter

However the issue is that only 14 weekly LON-CAI/Alexandria flights are allowed by UK carriers. BA currently fly LHR-CAI 7xWeek and bmi the same. Easyjet wanting to fly LGW-CAI, and also BA wanting to to add an extra 3 weekly flights, means the CAA are holding a scarce capacity hearing next month to resolve the situation. Very rare the CAA have to do this

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/213/1960.pdf
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/213/1962.pdf
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/213/1963.pdf


The CAA must follow the following criteria
Quote:
(3) The CAA must allocate scarce capacity in a manner which it considers is best calculated—
(a) to secure that qualifying carriers provide air transport services which satisfy all substantial categories of public demand at the lowest charges consistent with a high standard of safety in operating the services, whilst giving an economic return to efficient qualifying carriers on the sums invested in providing the services;
(b) to further the reasonable interests of users of air transport services;
(c) to secure the effective provision of civil air transport to and from the United Kingdom;
(d) to ensure that qualifying carriers compete as effectively as possible with other airlines in providing air transport services on international routes; and
(e) to ensure the most effective use of airports within the United Kingdom.

(4) When allocating scarce capacity the CAA must have regard—
(a) to the effect on existing air transport services provided by qualifying carriers; and
(b) in any case—
(i) where the existing services are similar (in terms of route) to the proposed new service; or
(ii) where two or more applicants have applied for a scarce capacity allocation certificate, indicating that they propose to provide a new but similar service, to any benefits which may arise from enabling two or more airlines to provide the service in question.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2007/pdf/uksi_20073556_en.pdf

Section (3) and (4)(b) would favour Easyjet since they increase competition however section (4)(a) means the CAA will have the consider that awarding traffic rights to EZY would mean BA or bmi loosing frequencies they are currently flying

Should be an interesting one to follow. I feel sure BA will retain 7xWeekly rights. They have a long history on the route, use a high capacity plane, and it is important to their wider network. However I can't see them getting an extra three weekly rights since they would dominate the route. That would leave bmi and EZY for the remaining frequencies.

One thing that could also count against bmi is their codeshare with MS, who are planning 10xWeekly LHR-CAI this winter. So bmi have 'access' to extra flights beyond what they are applying for. So with say 4xWeekly flights+MS codeshare they could offer LHR-CAI 14xWeek. Unsure if the CAA would consider such an arguement



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User currently offlinecloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3758 times:

I though EasyJet was running both short of planes and crews? Are they receiving more aircraft, or are they cutting some other route for the winter?


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User currently offlineSAM1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 3688 times:

Quoting cloud4000 (Reply 4):
or are they cutting some other route for the winter?

Many LGW routes (Greek Islands for example) only operate in the summer and there are major frequency reductions on other routes, hence the room for new routes.



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User currently offlinepeterinlisbon From Portugal, joined Jan 2006, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3623 times:

I think Easyjet (or someone else) should try flying Tenerife-Fortaleza (Brazil). That's a 4 hour flight that would connect South America and Europe and would be a lot more lucrative than these leisure routes, where people will only fly if the price is cheap.

User currently offlinedirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1681 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3487 times:

The Egyptian government is protective of CAI. Partly they want to protect MS, plus keep out the charters/LCCs which would cannibalise yields. If Air Arabia/flydubai/Bahrain Air all began scheduled services to CAI with high frequencies, then EK/GF/QR/MS would suffer.
Would love to see what the CAA hearing will bring next month. LGW-CAI would be targeting pax originating in the UK. They have no connections to provide, and I'm not sure if regular travel agents would be willing to switch from BA and MS and BD. They would purely be targeting the low-yield tourist. BA is clearly better off focusing on the higher-end market segment. They're very comfortable with their position in CAI. For as long as I can remember, it's been a daily BA 747 to Heathrow. Every single airline serving CAI has had adjustments, change of a/c, increased/decreased frequencies, the usual. BD's entry into the LHR-CAI market didn't change anything, and BD is a far bigger threat in that market than EZY will ever be.


User currently offlineMEA330 From Lebanon, joined Aug 2002, 286 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3471 times:

Any plans for EasyJet to serve BEY?
There was an on line petition on Facebook supporting LGW-BEY route.


User currently offlineBAfan From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3385 times:

Quoting peterinlisbon (Reply 6):
I think Easyjet (or someone else) should try flying Tenerife-Fortaleza (Brazil). That's a 4 hour flight that would connect South America and Europe and would be a lot more lucrative than these leisure routes, where people will only fly if the price is cheap

I think this is a really good idea!


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19227 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week ago) and read 3175 times:

Quoting directorguy (Reply 7):
The Egyptian government is protective of CAI.

Absolutely. It's a shame for the consumer, for I'd love lower fares from CAI to Saudi Arbabia (e.g. on Sama, Nas), KWI (e.g. on Jazeera), and the UAE (e.g. SHJ with G9 and DXB with FZ). Maybe on day...

Quoting directorguy (Reply 7):
They would purely be targeting the low-yield tourist.

And VFR traffic.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinedirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1681 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week ago) and read 3130 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 10):
Absolutely. It's a shame for the consumer, for I'd love lower fares from CAI to Saudi Arbabia (e.g. on Sama, Nas), KWI (e.g. on Jazeera), and the UAE (e.g. SHJ with G9 and DXB with FZ). Maybe on day...

Yup. Egypt's new start-up airlines have showed little initiative in establishing themselves at CAI, making do with labour shuttle runs between secondary cities in Egypt and the Middle East. I remember how the Egyptian government only gave EK additional frequencies to CAI if they commenced services to Alexandria. Clearly Egypt-GCC state air bilaterals are all pretty restricted.


User currently offlineHeeBeeGB From Finland, joined Sep 2007, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

LXR was a GT charter route in the past if memory serves

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