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Any A340 Crash Before?  
User currently offlineStarAlliance From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 252 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1293 times:

Are there any A340 crash before?

Thx

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User currently onlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5311 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1244 times:

No A340 has crashed before although 1 was detroyed by fire at Paris in about 1994, aircraft belonged to Air France.

Scott.


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

The only A330/A340 to crash was one of Thais A330's during a test flight in France. The aircraft was still owned by Airbus.

User currently offlineA320-Addict From Belgium, joined Apr 2001, 250 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1183 times:

Sabena has had a crash with one of it's A340's.
I think it was oo-scw, returning from JFK to Bru, about 3 years to go.
It landed on rwy 25L at Brussels. Touchdown was reported as being normal. 2 Sec after the touchdown, the right main gear broke of, making the aircraft sliding down the runway. On it's way the gear also tore off the main part of the rudder and elevator.
No injuries were reported.

The aircraft was out of service for almost 1 year and is now again in service at the company.


User currently offlineZauberfloete From Austria, joined Nov 2000, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1175 times:

That´s not a crash, it´s an incident.

User currently offlineA320-Addict From Belgium, joined Apr 2001, 250 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1165 times:

Maybe we should define the word "crash" then.

I think an airplane that slide down 2000ft on the runway, and ends up in the grass, after which it is out of service for more than one year because it had almost beyond repair damage..., is rather a crash then
and "incident" although indeed there were no fatalities.

Once again, just my humble opinion


User currently offlineA320-Addict From Belgium, joined Apr 2001, 250 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1155 times:

By the way,

An A340 that burns down on the tarmac, is certainly not a crash then.... but still more than just an "incident"
Zauber....



User currently offlineBelugaBoy From Belgium, joined Mar 2001, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

And I think the one that burned down belonged to Sabena to, it was the time that Sabena and Air France were 'partners'.

I think some of the first A340's that Sabena ordered where operated by Air France for a while since Sabena couldn't use them right then. They were still using B747's and DC10's back then.
The plane was carying the Air France livery at that time it was detroyed.

But I can be wrong, maybe somebody else can confirm this.


User currently offlineJuul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1113 times:

A320-Addict,

The A340-200 which had the landing incident in BRU was out of service for a mere 4-5 months, not over a year as you said. BTW, when fixed, OO-SCW was the first to wear the new livery.

As for the definition of 'crash', I think we mean a total loss with loss of life?


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1089 times:

Juul:

I saw it happening, when I worked for Sabena as a student. I was looking out of the employees-cafetaria, when OO-SCW landed.

This definitely was one of the most memorable moments in my 22-year old life.

Ivan



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User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1085 times:

And there was the much publicised Virgin A340 that landed with only the right gear down. What was interesting about that incident was that the check list says that the centre gear has to be manually retracted in such cases as it is not designed to support weight like the outers.

User currently offlineJuul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1074 times:

Apuneger,

Wow! Scary sight, I can imagine! Come to think of it, I saw the aircraft pass over my house that day, minutes before the incident (I live under the approach path for BRU). It was the 12.40 flight from New York, which was the only SN widebody arriving around that time. Only half an hour later I saw the news on the TV, reporting about the incident... scary.

Greetings Big grin


User currently offlineJgardiner From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1066 times:

If the center gear of an A340 is not designed to support weight then what is its purpose?

User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3700 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1052 times:
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Jgardiner,

Think about it, the Ctr gear is not designed to take the weight that the main wing gear takes.


User currently offlineJgardiner From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1024 times:

True, the center gear cannot support as much weight as either of the outer gears, but it does help hold the plane up. For that reason, I don't understand why you would want to manually retract it if either of the outer gears failed.



User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1023 times:

Jgardiner,

As the VS crew (which included the British Aerobatics champion) demonstrated, it is possible to land the A340 with relatively minimal damage without one main gear.

The reason for retracting the centre gear is that it cannot take the weight and stresses from the side of the aircraft that has lost its main gear and, if left in place, it would shear off at an unpredictable time, causing extra damage and unforseeable consequences to the handling of the aircraft.


User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3700 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1015 times:
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I would venture to suggest it would probably go up into the cabin.

The Ctr Gr is only there to take the weight at the upper end of the weight limit. At low weights it's not even on the ground !


User currently offlineJgardiner From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 999 times:

Philb, VC-10

Thanks for the info.



User currently offlineJgardiner From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 982 times:

Philb, VC-10

Thanks for the info. Very helpful.



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