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Senator Stevens Likely In Crash In Alaska  
User currently offlineflybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 1016 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12562 times:

Details are just coming in, but it sounds like 5 out of the possible 9 people on the plane might have been killed.
Former NASA chief on the plane as well.
Ugh, I hate these stories:

http://www.king5.com/news/national/F...be-on-crashed-plane-100341714.html


Heia Norge!
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User currently offlineN92R03 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12482 times:

Does not sound good. Apparently WX was awful. Tail number N455A

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12333 times:

News reports are now saying Senator Ted Stevens has died in the crash. Also listed as a passenger aboard the aircraft was Sean O'Keefe, former head of NASA from 2001 to 2005. He oversaw the investigation into the Challanger accident over Texas in Feb. 2004. O'Keefe is also head of EADS-NA. The plane was a DHC-3 Otter and the crash site is about 325 miles SW of ANC.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...oard-plane-that-crashed-in-alaska/


User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12266 times:

May those who perished rest in peace.

[Edited 2010-08-10 10:09:42]

User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7311 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12198 times:
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I didn't care for Steven's politics but I did get to meet O'Keefe before at JSC. Great guy and RIP to all that perished.   


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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12134 times:

Quoting fxramper (Reply 4):
I didn't care for Steven's politics but I did get to meet O'Keefe before at JSC. Great guy and RIP to all that perished.

I met O'Keefe when he was the Chancellor at LSU. Great guy indeed.


User currently offlinedmt52 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12114 times:
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Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
He oversaw the investigation into the Challanger accident over Texas in Feb. 2004

It was Columbia.



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User currently offlineskyhawk62507 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 176 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12006 times:

Quoting dmt52 (Reply 6):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
He oversaw the investigation into the Challanger accident over Texas in Feb. 2004

It was Columbia.

And 2003.


User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3332 posts, RR: 45
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11957 times:

Don't see anything saying anything about the status of either Stevens or O'Keefe.

Here's to finding more than 4 survivors (seems unlikely given the size of the aircraft...you'd think they would know that pretty quickly).

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineflybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 1016 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11638 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
News reports are now saying Senator Ted Stevens has died in the crash

I hope that is wrong. Bummer. The different news agencies are reporting different things.
Stevens actually survived a crash before about 30 years ago in Anchorage. Wow, 2 airplane accident in one lifespan.



Heia Norge!
User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5079 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11598 times:

Latest news is that Ted Stevens has died in the plane crash.


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User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2841 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11562 times:

Quoting N92R03 (Reply 1):
Apparently WX was awful. Tail number N455A

Not sure how accurate but KTUU was saying that they were under VFR conditions.

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 8):
Don't see anything saying anything about the status of either Stevens or O'Keefe.

Local news also saying Stevens was killed in the crash.

http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=12952729

Stevens was flying in an Otter owned by GSI the local cable/phone provider to a fishing lodge near Dillingham owned by the same company. I don't know what the weather was/is like in the Dillingham area right now but in the Prince William Sound area right now it's rainy with fog and low ceilings.



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User currently offlineN92R03 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11446 times:

Per the Associated Press, Stevens' family spokesperson has confirmed he was killed in the crash.

User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11446 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 11):
Not sure how accurate but KTUU was saying that they were under VFR conditions.

Local conditions were reportedly barely MVFR (3 statute miles visibility, light rain, mist). Marginal VFR is worlds different than unrestricted VMC. In fact, it can be more dangerous than IMC in the clouds.



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User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2901 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11378 times:
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NY Times, NBC News, and CBS News all now reporting that Stevens has died. Confirmation to the AP came from Stevens' former chief of staff.

User currently offlineflybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 1016 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11093 times:

Darn that is sad news.
Bush Pilots in Alaska are a tough bunch of guys and gals. Such a cool job but at times dangerous as we see here again (assuming it was weather that caused the crash as oppposed to a mechanical issue).
Let's hope that we have at least 4 survivors.

Anyone have the details on Stevens crash back in '78 that killed his first wife?



Heia Norge!
User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3573 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10990 times:

Quoting flybynight (Reply 15):
Anyone have the details on Stevens crash back in '78 that killed his first wife?

I know he survived that crash and afterwards he said he had a premonition that he would die in one too.



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11431 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10779 times:

In somewhat happier news, there are survivors, including Sean O'Keefe:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...-chief-okeefe-alaskan-plane-crash/



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User currently offlineflightmedic72 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10783 times:

Quoting flybynight (Reply 15):
Anyone have the details on Stevens crash back in '78 that killed his first wife?

I was a responder th the crash 12-4-1978.
Lear 25 landing ANC 24R from JNU in crappy wx (sleet, snow, wind 30K, and ice). Stalled prior to touchdown and hit the runway hard and out of control. Plane ended up upside down between runways. 5 total fatalities including the crew and Teds first wife.

Sad day for Alaska


User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3193 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10688 times:

Quoting flybynight (Reply 15):
Anyone have the details on Stevens crash back in '78 that killed his first wife?

The aircraft Senator Stevens wife aircraft was traveling on is believed to have crashed into a glacier near Anchorage in 1978. The A/C was never found under the snow cap. Senator Hale Boggs also perished on the flight.



Man can be taken from Alaska. Alaska can never be taken from the man.
User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11431 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10638 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 19):
The aircraft Senator Stevens wife aircraft was traveling on is believed to have crashed into a glacier near Anchorage in 1978. The A/C was never found under the snow cap. Senator Hale Boggs also perished on the flight.

I think you've confused this crash for the one that claimed Rep. Begich, Sen. Begich's father.

Stevens' first crash occurred at ANC.



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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3193 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10597 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 20):

You are correct. I posted in error while researching the 1972 incident.



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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10560 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 19):
The aircraft Senator Stevens wife aircraft was traveling on is believed to have crashed into a glacier near Anchorage in 1978.

Are you sure? Here is a link to the 1978 ABC News broadcast that shows fire rescue people standing near the airplane. They said it crashed at the ANC airport.

http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video...tevens-plane-crash-alaska-11365694

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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10491 times:

Quoting flybynight (Reply 15):
Anyone have the details on Stevens crash back in '78 that killed his first wife?

NTSB Report:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=38505&key=0#

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User currently offlineflightmedic72 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10295 times:

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25 HBGDS : NTSB gives info about the plane: At about 8:00 p.m. Alaska Daylight Time, a DeHavilland DHC-3T (N455A) crashed 10 miles northwest of Aleknagik, Alaska
26 flyawa : Reports are that EADS-NA executive Sean O'Keefe and his youngest son, Kevin, have survived the crash! As mentioned, he was also with NASA and former c
27 flybynight : They are cool planes. I see them all the time here in Seattle. They are like flies on Lake Union...LOL...So cool to watch.
28 AviationAddict : I don't know much about his politics but anyone who was as supportive of aviation as Ted Stevens was deserves my respect. We're a relatively small gr
29 Post contains images USXGuy : rumors here in Southeast (AK) is that the Turbo Otter did *not* have the Chelton Capstone system in it. This is part of the FAA NexGen system and Alas
30 canoecarrier : No offence, but you're kidding right? I can buy off on maybe every Part 135 aircraft but go to any small town airfield here in Alaska and you'll find
31 Post contains images EA CO AS : In a horrible coincidence, the pilot - who also perished in the crash - was retired Alaska Airlines Captain Terry Smith, whose son-in-law (Alaska Airl
32 USXGuy : Its already required by 2020 I believe, and the Otter is far from a "small" bush plane. I'm looking at CRABS now and there is significant use of it in
33 DiamondFlyer : The only thing required in 2020, is an ADS-B out transponder. If somebody install only that, they don't get anything more than what they have now, wh
34 Post contains links Yellowstone : Slightly on the non-av side here, but is this perhaps one of the first cases of death by lobbying? http://www.adn.com/2010/08/09/140279...plane-with-8
35 Post contains images USXguy : DF~ for some reason I think it is a requirement up here because of the terrain. They are even outfitting some of the airport ground equipment with tra
36 Post contains links canoecarrier : Where did I say small? You said every, which implied small, medium or large bush planes. "The onboard equipment, for Capstone, is estimated at $12-18
37 flybynight : Some more details coming from the crash. The pilot - as we know died - but strangely enough the person sitting next to him in the co-pilot seat lived
38 Post contains images USXguy : Photo courtesy of the Juneau Empire to debate the Capstone system, it cost us over $50k to purchase and install it in each of our airplanes. I still s
39 Post contains links KC135TopBoom : FoxNews has some more details, some may consider them to be gruesome; http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/11...thorities-arrived/?test=latestnews
40 DiamondFlyer : First of all, Capstone isn't the name of the system, but rather the project funded by the FAA in both Alaska and various other places. Its an ADS-B s
41 USXguy : actually it is used for navigation up here, we have Capstone-specific air routes, just like published Airways, throughout all of Alaska as part of IFR
42 DiamondFlyer : I never said the WAAS GPS wasn't used for navigation. I meant that the terrain features cannot be used in order to maintain separation from terrain.
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