kevin752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 713 posts, RR: 5 Posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3033 times:
I have a question regarding the Delta flights that operate within Asia. Are the Flight Attendants on those flights Delta (pre merger NW ) employees?? Or do they work for a contractor company that Delta uses to operate those flights. If I am correct those crews ( at least the flight attendants) do not fly to the US on any flights. They have different pay and are non unionized. If the USA based crews end up with no union representation what will happen with those Asia based crews? Will they be allowed to fly flights that come to the USA? Well I hope someone can shed some light on this for me. Thank You in advance for any info.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8771 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3002 times:
Depends - I believe Interport flying is done by both PMNW and PMDL crews now - I know that PMNW crews do some of those flights - six day trips out of MSP/DTW are not uncommon routings for those flight attendants.
There are also the NRT-based flight crews, but those do mix with at least the PMNW folks.
burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7411 posts, RR: 9 Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2587 times:
Most of the interport flying is done with PMNW NRT based FA's and there are mix of US based crews as well. Most of the pacific flying in the main cabin is still PMNW. Flight deck is a different story though.
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jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7335 posts, RR: 52 Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2347 times:
Our contract requires every interport to be "scheduled" with 1 US based Purser and a US based Add FA(a regular line FA paired with the purser). They're almost always from the same US base(SEA, SFO, LAX, etc). However, an interport segmant can be flown without the US based FA due to non-availablity of the US based crewmembers. Therefore a "Main Cabin Lead" qualified(the Pacific Division equivalant to the US Purser, in MC only) is elevated to stand in for the purser role as a last resort(meaning that no US based crewmembers can are legal or available, and crew scheduling must make every effort to find a replacement Purser or US based crewmemeber to be staffed. Even if the US based crewmember is not a purser, or doesn't want to be purser, they cannot defer it to the Interport crew. If you are US based, you are the purser regardless. Any deviation from this is a violation of our CBA contract. While Japan-Guam/Siapan is still Asia-Pacific, it is not considered interport, it is beach market and there for is staffed with half US-based FA's and half Interport and 1 JPN based IFSR(interpretor/FA)
Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 2): Most of the interport flying is done with PMNW NRT based FA's and there are mix of US based crews as well. Most of the pacific flying in the main cabin is still PMNW. Flight deck is a different story though.
Actually, our NRT based FA's is very small. It consists of mostly IFSR(interpretors) who double as FAs(within Asia only) part time, and a very small group of full-time FA's who work under a completely separate contracts than their IFSR/FA counterparts. It's very complicated but is a result of different work rules defined by Japan and NWA approximately 10 years ago. But a segmant out of NRT to PEK for example would typically be operated with a mix of several different interport FA's: 2 US, 1 NRT, 4 PEK, 3 PVG/HKG etc. There is always a predominent contingent of terminating FA's from the origination/destination base to/from NRT. But the NRT base is quite small and typically only 1 NRT based FA is staffed.
jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7335 posts, RR: 52 Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1506 times:
Quoting kevin752 (Reply 4): Thanks for the input. So those flights all have now Delta employees working them. They just have different pay and are non union .. Is that correct?
Correct. Each base is defined by payscales relative to there home country. Some of the bases are unionised. NRT, NGO, And KIX are unionised and represented by the mechanics union.. As far and the other bases, I know that mainland China domiciles are non-union.
Quoting cyberual (Reply 5): what about BKK/MNL base? Does DL/PMNW have SEL base f/a?