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Avianca Aircraft Accident In SDU Brazil  
User currently offlinehardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7364 times:



A small business jet (PTLXO) Avianca-owened aircraft with 3 pax onboard had an accident this morning in SDU.

Rgs,

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User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7298 times:

So far media reports no casualties, and the airport has been reopened.

User currently offlinehardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7126 times:

Here is a bigger picture. Apparenlty the aircraft had a flat tire upon landing.



Rgs,

[Edited 2010-08-12 08:38:21]

User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8958 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6841 times:

Yikes. Looks like the crew (only POB) are fine. Lot's of cancellations at SDU however.

Another case for EMAS. .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineered_materials_arrestor_system



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User currently offlinejj8080 From Brazil, joined Aug 2008, 932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6750 times:

My question would be how the plane ended up in this position if it was landing??

Rgs,
JJ8080



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25154 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6721 times:

It's surprising there haven't been more accidents at SDU considering the longest runway is only 4,341 ft. with virtually no overrun at either end.


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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11429 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6466 times:
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Quoting jj8080 (Reply 4):
My question would be how the plane ended up in this position if it was landing??

It seems like an electric or technical issue as they were in fact going to GIG after problems have been notified but it couldn't. Lucky that it was closer to the airport as if it happens in the middle of Guanabara Bay, results could not be that good.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
It's surprising there haven't been more accidents at SDU considering the longest runway is only 4,341 ft. with virtually no overrun at either end.

There's a lot of restrictions in place. All airlines only authorizes captains to land and take off there, and co-pilot operation is just not allowed. Further, they use their most powerfull aircrafts in general without cargo and on short routes (with a few exceptions)
But i agree, it's such a small runway and there's no overrun at all. It's really a kind of "ETOPS" airport as passengers will swim !



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User currently offlinejj8080 From Brazil, joined Aug 2008, 932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6199 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
There's a lot of restrictions in place. All airlines only authorizes captains to land and take off there, and co-pilot operation is just not allowed. Further, they use their most powerfull aircrafts in general without cargo and on short routes (with a few exceptions)
But i agree, it's such a small runway and there's no overrun at all. It's really a kind of "ETOPS" airport as passengers will swim !



Indeed. A320s are no allowed there with full load, as well as regular 738s (remember used to operate them there with 140 pax block). Although, 738SFP does operate there, and I am quite sure in many cases loaded with 187 pax. Amazing performance.

I don't understand why they never extended SDU's runway, as it must not be that hard (no houses, or anything). Say, with 1.600m, they would be able to handle all A320s and 737s around, also turning all other operations safer.

Rgs,
JJ8080



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User currently offlineicna05e From France, joined Feb 2006, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5728 times:

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 3):
Another case for EMAS. .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enginee...ystem

Thanks for bringing that up! Interesting concept, should be generalised around the world.

Unless you have a CRITICAL system failure, I don't know what reason would make a pilot choose to divert in SDU as opposed to GIG. Must have been quite dramatic.


User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5667 times:

Quoting jj8080 (Reply 7):
I don't understand why they never extended SDU's runway, as it must not be that hard (no houses, or anything).

Because there are obstacles at either end. Sugar Loaf and Rio-Niteroi bridge.


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