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Who Will Be Launch Customer For Airbus A318?  
User currently offline757pf From United States of America, joined May 2001, 175 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

And who else has ordered this baby Airbus?

Anybody got the stats?

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User currently offlineSteman From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 1320 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2585 times:

I know that Airbus already owns more than 100 orders for the A318.
Air France and British Airways have ordered it, AF pushing on Airbus to have it with CFM56 engines.

Ciao

Stefano


User currently offlineAltoun From France, joined Feb 2001, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

I was not able to find the date of this website, so, please correct me if there is something wrong...
A318 orders:
Air China Intl': 8
Air France: 15
America West Airlines 15
British Airways 12
Egyptair 5
Frontier Airlines 5
TWA 25

Total: 85

(but on the website, total is 127????)


User currently offlineAltoun From France, joined Feb 2001, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2552 times:

Hi Stefano!
You 're right when you say: "AF pushing on Airbus to have it with CFM56 engines."
But also SNECMA (french company which produce CFM56 with GE). I was working there, and all employees (who agreed) sent a postcard to the french minister of transportation for pointing out A318 should use CFM56.
It was a beautiful postcard! I have a second one at home if you want to see it!



User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2537 times:

I know that there is a small chance that SN will order some A318's. Other option for SN is ordering some ERJ-145's.

Ivan



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User currently offlineTurbulence From Spain, joined Nov 1999, 963 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

Yes we want to see the postcard!!!

I think that the CFM56 is the most suitable engine to it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't CFM56 what most of the 32X units are equipped with? So, commonality calls (although they would very probably going to be slightly different versions, lighter or less powerful)...

Best turbulences


User currently offlineGeneralA From Germany, joined May 2001, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

I think that TWA have cancelled their A318 order, haven`t they ?

User currently offlineCritter592 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2515 times:

The A318 is like a 737-100/200.
The A319 is like a 737-300/500/600/700.
The A320 is like a 737-400/800
The A321 is like a 737-900/757-200
The A330 is like the 767-300/300ER
The A340 is like the 777-200
The A340-600 is like the 777-300/400
The A300 is like the DC-10/777
The A310 is like the 767-200

Now who here thinks Airbus is not a competitor... So why would TWA keep their order for airbuses if they have an All-Boeing Fleet. I would have cancelled it.


User currently offlineSxmarbury33 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

"The A340-600 is like the 777-300/400"
I dont think there is a 777-400 yet.


User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2504 times:

I stand corrected here, but I think Air Canada will be the launch customer.

User currently offlineJuul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2494 times:

Altoun,

The 127 could be explained by the large orders placed by ILFC (30, I believe) and GECAS (not sure how many).

Greetings Big grin


User currently offlineLH 744 D-ABVD From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2484 times:

Well Air Canada can't be launch-customer since they didn't order the A318... Maybe one day but even then AC can't be the launch-customer.

User currently offlinePolAir From United States of America, joined May 2001, 893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

TWA cancelled all A318 orders.
They placed order for more ERJ 145.


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10998 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

Critter, those analogies you made are not quite correct. For one, nobody cares how current airliners stack up to ones that are no longer in production.

Here are more proper analogies for capacity and range:

736 ~= 318*
73G ~= 319
738 ~= 320
739 ~= 321

757 ~= no Airbus competitor! 321 is much smaller, and has much less range.
753 ~= no Airbus competitor!

767 ~= A310 (But who still buys A310s?)
763 ~= A332
764 ~= A333 (But the 333 has much greater range)

772 ~= A333/342 (772 bests the 333 in range and is slightly larger)
773 ~= A343

744 ~= no Airbus competitor!

no Boeing competitor ~= A380*


(* Not in production yet)



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