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Why Is LH Storing A B737-700NG?

photoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 353 posts, RR: 20
Posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10578 times:

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Hey,

I was searching how many B737-300 are still remaining in the fleet of LH.
But my eyes went wide open when I discovered LH has a B737-700NG
stored.

Does anybody know where it's stored and why?
Or is this an error by the website?
link :
http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Lufthansa.htm

thanks!

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stylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2870 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10443 times:

HB-IIQ, a Privatair 737-700NG, is stored in HHN. I don't know the reason why.

photoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 353 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9808 times:

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Quoting stylo777 (Reply 1):

But why arn't they leasing it during the summer season...
Or is it a fully business class plane?

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Burkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4248 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9649 times:

That is a fully buisiness class plane

747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 1779 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9576 times:

HB-IIQ is/was used on LH 413, Newark (EWR) - Munich (MUC), according :

http://www.worldairroutes.com/Privatair.html

photoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 353 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8760 times:

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Quoting 747classic (Reply 4):

But why is it stored again?
No passengers?

Photoshooter

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Ewrkid From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8430 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 4):
HB-IIQ is/was used on LH 413, Newark (EWR) - Munich (MUC), according :

defiantly a was as EWR-MUC is now served with the A346 in the summer and IIRC a A333 in the winter..

jj8080 From Brazil, joined Aug 2008, 932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8319 times:

Quoting photoshooter (Reply 5):
But why is it stored again?
No passengers?

I wouldn't say no passengers. Also don't know/undersant why this Privatair BBJ is stored.

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flyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5297 times:

Quoting photoshooter (Reply 5):
But why is it stored again?
No passengers?

Photoshooter

If the aircraft is indeed still in an all-Business Class config, then that may very well be the reason. Too few Business Class bookings. I'm sure the aircraft will be back in the skies during the winter schedule if the global economy continues to improve. Perhaps MUC-BOS, which was often a Privatair route in the past, will get it again if loads don't look good enough. Either that or LH will think of something else or the aircraft will be reconfigured with a C/Y configuration like the other Privatair birds currently flying for LH.

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TheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3347 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4539 times:

What crews are flying those planes, btw? From Privatair, or does LH have pilots qulified for the 737 NG?

Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21464 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4434 times:

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 9):
What crews are flying those planes, btw? From Privatair, or does LH have pilots qulified for the 737 NG?

Crews, both pilots and cabin crew, are all PrivatAir.

photoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 353 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3881 times:

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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10):

So the B737-700 Private air from KL has also PrivatAir crew or KL crew?
Since KL operates the B737-700 this could be possible, no ?

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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21464 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3866 times:

Quoting photoshooter (Reply 11):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10):

So the B737-700 Private air from KL has also PrivatAir crew or KL crew?
Since KL operates the B737-700 this could be possible, no ?

Same on KL and LX flights operated by PrivatAir. The entire crew is PrivatAir.

photoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 353 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 12):

sounds like a wetlease. So is KL receiving money for it ?

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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21464 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

Quoting photoshooter (Reply 13):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 12):

sounds like a wetlease. So is KL receiving money for it ?

All the PrivatAir operations are wetleases. The airline (KL/LH/LX) gets all the revenue from the tickets sold and pays whatever fee they have negotiated with PrivatAir to operate the aircraft, plus fuel and catering expenses etc.

photoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 353 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2789 times:

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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):

Thanks for the quick answers!
Isn't it cheaper for KL to order their own B737-700
who can do the same flights ?

greetings
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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21464 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

Quoting photoshooter (Reply 15):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):

Thanks for the quick answers!
Isn't it cheaper for KL to order their own B737-700
who can do the same flights ?

While KL does operate their own 737-700s, the one used by PrivatAir on the AMS-IAH-AMS route is a BBJ with several additional fuel tanks in the cargo/baggage compartment and other structural differences of the BBJ. I doubt it would make sense for KL to own a single BBJ themselves for that type of specialized operation.

It must be profitable for KL as it's been operating almost 5 years. That BBJ must achieve among the highest utilization figures (but the fewest cycles) of almost any 737 flying. It's in the air over 20 hours a day and covers 8,712 nm six days a week (except Wednesday). Block time AMS-IAH 10 hr. 40 min, and IAH-AMS 9 hr. 50 min.

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