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AA 757's - How Many Special Equipment Subfleets?  
User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3216 posts, RR: 13
Posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4698 times:

Hey all,

Now with AA converting some of their 757's to their TATL network, I was wondering... how many special variants of the 757 does AA have in their fleet??

There are the TATL ships in 16J/166Y configuration - how many and which tail#'s??

Also, I know there are only a handful that are specially reconfigured to run the MIA-LPB flights given the 14,000ft+ elevation of LPB - how many and which tail#'s??

And finally; is the entire AA 757 fleet ETOPS-capable for the Hawaii routes, or again is there an ETOPS subfleet??

Are there any other types I've forgotten or am leaving out??




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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23224 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4676 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Also, I know there are only a handful that are specially reconfigured to run the MIA-LPB flights given the 14,000ft+ elevation of LPB - how many and which tail#'s??

This was a subfleet at one point but isn't any longer - all 752s are now high altitude (they never converted the ex-TW aircraft to high altitude, so there was something of a high altitude subfleet at one point, but those aircraft are all gone now).



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User currently offlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 662 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Now with AA converting some of their 757's to their TATL network, I was wondering... how many special variants of the 757 does AA have in their fleet??

3 variants:

1.- 18 757-223, ETOPS certified, configured for TATL flights and other long intl flights (16J/166Y)
2.- 13 75ER, ETOPS certified, configured as the domestic 757, for USA-Hawaii (22F/166Y)
3.- 93 standard 757-223 (22F/166Y). All are overwater certified and can operate all the flights except USA-Hawaii and TATL flights.

These are the 13 757-223 ETOPS certified:

N687AA
N690AA
N691AA
N688AA
N689AA
N692AA
N608AA
N609AA
N183AN
N184AN
N192AN
N193AN
N194AA

And these the 18 757-223 for TATL certified:

N174AA
N185AN
N186AN
N187AN
N188AN
N189AN
N190AA
N191AN
N197AN
N198AA
N199AN
N175AN
N176AA
N177AN
N179AA
N178AA
N173AN
N172AJ


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4544 times:

Quoting realsim (Reply 2):
3 variants:

1.- 18 757-223, ETOPS certified, configured for TATL flights and other long intl flights (16J/166Y)
2.- 13 75ER, ETOPS certified, configured as the domestic 757, for USA-Hawaii (22F/166Y)
3.- 93 standard 757-223 (22F/166Y). All are overwater certified and can operate all the flights except USA-Hawaii and TATL flights.

Thanks, very interesting. As an additional question, do all AA 752's have winglets? I'll be flying an AA 752 MCO-JFK in December and would love to fly a 752 with winglets.



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User currently offlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 662 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4478 times:

Quoting Kappel (Reply 3):
Thanks, very interesting. As an additional question, do all AA 752's have winglets? I'll be flying an AA 752 MCO-JFK in December and would love to fly a 752 with winglets.

You're welcome. If you travel in a 757, it will be have winglets for sure as AA completed the installation on all their 757 some time ago.


User currently offlinerunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

Quoting realsim (Reply 2):
3.- 93 standard 757-223 (22F/166Y). All are overwater certified and can operate all the flights except USA-Hawaii and TATL flights.

Don't forget that one domestic 757 has already been reconfigured with 24 F, as a prototype. Unfortunately AA hasn't resumed converting their domestic 757 fleet.

You have to wonder with the Anti Trust Immunity whether AA might not be tempted to convert more 757s to international configuration.


User currently offlineboeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1030 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4375 times:

[quote=realsim,reply=2]Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Now with AA converting some of their 757's to their TATL network, I was wondering... how many special variants of the 757 does AA have in their fleet??

3 variants:

1.- 18 757-223, ETOPS certified, configured for TATL flights and other long intl flights (16J/166Y)
2.- 13 75ER, ETOPS certified, configured as the domestic 757, for USA-Hawaii (22F/166Y)
3.- 93 standard 757-223 (22F/166Y). All are overwater certified and can operate all the flights except USA-Hawaii and TATL flights.

The MAUI (Mid-life Avionics Upgrade Initiative) airplanes is another variant but it has nothing to do with marketing. We have another set of 757's that has upgraded cockpits. We are taking and replacing the CRT's for the EADI and EHSI with LCD screens. All the 757/767 fleet will be modified. But until then we are considering this a sub fleet just due to parts issues. This is what the MAUI cockpit looks like.

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User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3949 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4206 times:
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Quoting boeing767mech (Reply 6):

The MAUI (Mid-life Avionics Upgrade Initiative) airplanes is another variant but it has nothing to do with marketing. We have another set of 757's that has upgraded cockpits. We are taking and replacing the CRT's for the EADI and EHSI with LCD screens. All the 757/767 fleet will be modified. But until then we are considering this a sub fleet just due to parts issues. This is what the MAUI cockpit looks like.

The 767 I flew on from LHR to BRU as AA108 in Dec 2009 had that modified cockpit with updated avionics already.

Ben Soriano



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