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FR Reducing Over 80% Of Flights To/From BIQ?  
User currently offlinedowntown273 From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 314 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2932 times:

I was just checking some flights to Biarritz (BIQ) and I realized that Ryanair has cut down the frequencies and destinations to/from BIQ for the Winter period. I have flown FR many times to/from BIQ before and the loads were always pretty good.

Now:
7x weekly STN (sometimes up to 9x weekly during summer peak)
4x weekly DUB
3x weekly MRS
2x weekly BHX

Winter:
3x weekly STN

They will go from 16+ to 3 weekly flights out of BIQ. Any idea why?

Also, I am surprised not to see FR serving Spain (MAD, AGP, PMI...) from BIQ. BIQ is around 30 minutes drive from San Sebastian, Spain which is not served by FR. Passengers from San Sebastian need to go to Santander SDR (120 miles) or Zaragoza ZAZ (165 miles) to get a cheap domestic flight as San Sebastian (EAS) is only served by Iberia. As EAS cannot take a Ryanair 737-800 due to the short runway, I would expect Ryanair to target and market BIQ as a way to get to/from San Sebastian too. Any views on this?

Thanks.

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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19245 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

Quoting downtown273 (Thread starter):
Any idea why?

I would have thought that BIQ is a summer-seasonal place. Winter = off-season. Presumably if the routes performed sufficiently this summer they'll return next summer.

[Edited 2010-08-18 05:34:38]


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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

BIQ is quite a seasonal destination isn't it?


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User currently offlinedowntown273 From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2852 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 2):
BIQ is quite a seasonal destination isn't it?

Yes and no.

BIQ is seasonal for people from the UK going to the Biarritz/San Sebastian area for their summer holidays.

However, over half of the passengers (at least on the BIQ-STN) are Spanish citizens, the rest being predominantly French and then British. And I would expect the demand from Spanish/French to go to the UK & Ireland to be pretty consistent throughout the year (of course with peaks in Summer, Christmas, Easter and other school holidays).


User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19245 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2837 times:

Quoting downtown273 (Reply 3):
Yes and no.

BIQ is seasonal for people from the UK going to the Biarritz/San Sebastian area for their summer holidays.

I would add 'people from Ireland' too. As you said:

Quoting downtown273 (Thread starter):

7x weekly STN (sometimes up to 9x weekly during summer peak)
4x weekly DUB
3x weekly MRS
2x weekly BHX

Of these, all but 1 is not in the UK or Ireland. Therefore, it's predictable that frequencies, and thus capacity, would be reduced in view of the lower demand. And there is absolutely lower demand during wintertime, e.g.:

STN-BIQ-STN:

July, 2009 = 10,840
December, 2009 = 5,081

BHX-BIQ-BHX:

July, 2009 = 3,856
December, 2009 = 1,831

Of course, those figures are from 2009.

Anyway, presumably FR believes that its aircraft could be more profitably redeployed elsewhere during the winter, hence ceasing all routes during this off-peak period and substantially reducing STN.



[Edited 2010-08-18 06:00:53]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinefcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2800 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 4):
Anyway, presumably FR believes that its aircraft could be more profitably redeployed elsewhere during the winter, hence ceasing all routes during this off-peak period and substantially reducing STN.

Or parked up as in previous winters.....


User currently offlinesxb From France, joined Sep 2008, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

Not too sure that there would be enough demand from Biarritz to Madrid.
Aren't most of the passengers flying from EAS connecting in Madrid to other fligthts?

Also, FR already flies to Santander which they probably consider as Bilbao/San Sebastian airport.



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