777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5205 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 15415 times:
So what if its bland and boring, atleast its not Soviet era-esque like AZAL or cheap and garish like Uzbekistan airways. Larger title and a nice design in lighter green in tail background with better logo or even acronym TAL would have made for a nice livery, like PIA's Pashmina tail scheme which they would still have had if it wasnt rejected.
pink77W From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 179 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 15363 times:
it mite be bland and boring but it is different for sure. simple, plain, and classy.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11138 posts, RR: 63 Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 15275 times:
It's for the government of Turkmenistan, so I doubt it will see passenger service as it appears to have been delivered ready for 'executive' fitting out - hence the blocked off windows.
Hamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2657 posts, RR: 59 Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 15256 times:
Quoting Thorben (Reply 3): Where will they fly their new toy to?
pink77W From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 179 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 15159 times:
abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 55 Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 15148 times:
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 4): It's for the government of Turkmenistan, so I doubt it will see passenger service as it appears to have been delivered ready for 'executive' fitting out - hence the blocked off windows.
Dan
= Dan, I was gonna say the same thing. Why does Turkmenistan need a 77L is beyond me?
OA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4980 posts, RR: 25 Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 15082 times:
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 4): It's for the government of Turkmenistan, so I doubt it will see passenger service as it appears to have been delivered ready for 'executive' fitting out - hence the blocked off windows.
Ah thanks. That certainly clears up why this aircraft was ordered as I just can't imagine what route they would need a 77L for.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6088 posts, RR: 56 Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 14410 times:
Nice to see another carrier getting a 77L although it's a VIP aircraft.
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
Simple and plain yes, but classy? Come on, clean your eyes. If this is a classy paintjob, any removers truck is
Thats an exceptionally bland, unfinished looking plane. Worst I´ve seen in this class of big government jets. But, well, such an expensive plane for such a country - how much tax money per capita? Maybe they are afraid to paint it so at least it looks cheap!
pylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1391 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 14233 times:
For years Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan took a considerable share of MOW - BKK leisure traffic.
With 772 in fleet they can easily add, say, more Russian places and Ukraine cities - to this scheme.
Just one of ways to utilize this a/c.
There is not enough own traffic from/to Turkmenistan to keep Boeing -777-200LR.
Besides religious flights to Saudi Arabia.
AirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1546 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 14169 times:
Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 11): Do they make that many long distance govt flights?
Thats my exact question.
Quoting pylon101 (Reply 13): With 772 in fleet they can easily add, say, more Russian places and Ukraine cities - to this scheme
good morning. --
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 4): It's for the government of Turkmenistan, so I doubt it will see passenger service as it appears to have been delivered ready for 'executive' fitting out - hence the blocked off windows
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11138 posts, RR: 63 Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 13647 times:
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 7):
= Dan, I was gonna say the same thing. Why does Turkmenistan need a 77L is beyond me?
Quoting OA412 (Reply 8): Ah thanks. That certainly clears up why this aircraft was ordered as I just can't imagine what route they would need a 77L for.
This is what I was wondering too - they can now fly practically anywhere in the world non stop, so this is definitely about prestige. They certainly have the money for it though; world's fourth largest reserve of natural gas and tenth largest cotton producer.
tjcab From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 276 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 13054 times:
Quoting na (Reply 12): Simple and plain yes, but classy? Come on, clean your eyes. If this is a classy paintjob, any removers truck is
Thats an exceptionally bland, unfinished looking plane. Worst I´ve seen in this class of big government jets. But, well, such an expensive plane for such a country - how much tax money per capita? Maybe they are afraid to paint it so at least it looks cheap!
Thorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12512 times:
Quoting pylon101 (Reply 16): Turkmenistan is sitting on gas fields.
Sure they can afford virtually any aircraft for representative needs.
Well, they have a GDP of around 32 billion $. What does a 77L VIP cost? 250 million plus VIP addings? 300? 320? That comes to 1% of their GDP just for the government plane acquisition. That is like Germany spending 34 billion dollars for government planes. (Or roughly 85 Airbus A380 VIP). But what did Germany buy? Two used A343s.
I think the government of Turkmenistan should have taken a used 763ER.
AirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1546 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11829 times:
Netjetsintl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 10799 times:
Quoting pylon101 (Reply 16): Turkmenistan is sitting on gas fields.
Sure they can afford virtually any aircraft for representative needs
A dictatorship flying around in a brand new- $200 mil 777?? how do you explain that to your people??
a G550, or Global 700 can take you anywhere in the world as well. They overshot the runway a bit with that airplane
26 pylon101: Kazakhstan had 747 SP for years. It was used as VIP - and on ordinary routes. I guess VIP (F/J) part is closed while it was used on regular routes. An
27 Giancavia: Agreed, Uzbekistans is creative and stands out. This is blander then bland but a new plane is still cool so ..
28 ETinCaribe: And somebody is laughing all the way to the bank, presumably.
29 SFO2SVO: No judgement - but from purely technical point of view: aren't airlines required to have at least one spare aircraft of similar kind/size to be allow
30 Putnik: I dont want to get into the debate about who can afford what. If Turkmenistan needs a VIP plane like this and they are to purchase it on their own, wh
31 pylon101: It was just an idea - as this route (as much as via Tashkent) exists for years. It's a cheaper option compared to SU or UN direct flights. And it giv
32 clydenairways: Well we don't know what it will be used for, but it's clear from looking at the windows that this is not a normal layout. You usually this kind of wi
33 RAFVC10: I could make the same question changing the aircraft and the country... Why Algeria needs an Airbus A340-500 as a VIP transport? Regards, Gerard
34 mysterzip: And given the fact that it's a Boeing gives Turkmens a boast of confidence and a seemingly close relationship between Turkmenistan and the United Stat
35 bonusonus: What kind of range does the 77L have as a BBJ? I assume it will be flying with significantly less payload than the pax version. Does that mean this pl
36 clydenairways: Well a Gulfstream is American too. Why didn't they but one of those? Another Status Symbol purchase! I'm sure it has significant nonstop range.
37 Numero4: Not many people know about Turkmenistan. It is a very closed country held together by the cult of personality around its (deceased) "President for Lif
38 JHCRJ700: I was thinking the same thing! Look at all those babies. Also the Biman Bangladesh 777 in the background doesn't look too much better as far as paint
39 virginblue4: I don't see a Biman T7 in the background? Just a RAM 787....
40 pink77W: i dont think them spending 1% of GDP on this a77L is near as bad as the USA govt. being trillions and trillions in debt to china. but what do i know.
41 SFO2SVO: Sincerely hope you are right and aviation enthusiasts can bag a flight on 777 with another relatively exotic carrier... But not too optimistic, sorry
42 oa260: I think its certainly missing something, I usually like their livery on smaller A/C Me too at least their livery was different.
43 gunsontheroof: Nice looking bird--hope I'll catch a look at her before she flies off to Ashgabat. Too bad she'll never look as slick at Boeing's last project for a C
44 Thorben: Usbekistan really has one of the best liveries out there. I love their 767s and A310s. The VIP version is also very cool with the flag on the tail, i
45 777way: Bland LH livery is one of my favourrites.
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