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Any Russian Planes Stored In USA?  
User currently offlineN49WA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11652 times:

I know that the majority of airlines from around the globe store retired aircraft in the deserts of the USA. Mojave, Victorville, etc.
I'm wondering if any Russian aircraft, IL-62's/TU-154's and others are stored in the American deserts, or does Russia "take care of their own?" I've never seen photos of these birds at one of the above mentioned airports.

I would love to take a road trip and photograph a Russian airliner at one of the US desert locations. Thanks in advance for your replies.

N49WA

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User currently offlinefn1001 From Moldova, joined Sep 2008, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 11497 times:

From Wikipedia:

- In 1961, a disappointed Soviet pilot flew his Sukhoi Su-9 interceptor to Abadan, Iran. (...) Su-9 was transported to the USA (...)
- In 1966, Iraqi Captain Munir Redfa flew his MiG-21F-13 to Israel. Two years later, Israel gave his MiG-21F-13 and two MiG-17F to the United States for evaluation under the code-name "Have Donut" (for the MiG-21), and "Have Drill" (for the MiG-17).
- On September 20, 1993, a Cuban pilot defected in his MiG-21bis to NAS Key West, Florida.


Thes plane should be somewhere in the US.



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2607 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 11486 times:

In Opa Locka there are some Russian planes

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Furthermore, a dark Il 76 somewhere else in the US but I don't remember exactly the background story. There was a thread about it here some months ago.


User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 11490 times:

I have never heard or seen Russian made or even leased aircraft stored in the US.
Here at DME I saw Transaero Boeing-747-200 this winter which were not in use during winter season.
Those were covered by snow.
But they fly again this summer - most of them are near end of utilization.

I guess that cold winter and snow (and that was the winter we had this year) are as good for storing as desert.


User currently offlineMQTmxguy From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 11453 times:

There is an impounded IL-78 still here at KSAW (MQT)

http://www.miningjournal.net/page/content.detail/id/545671.html



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User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 11398 times:

I think cargo planes like AN-12 or IL-76 might be in the US or anywhere in the world.
There are too many of them.
And many outside Russia and having not Russian registration (say, for IL-76 it should be RU-76... - and serial number).

As to Ukranian tanker - it's sad. I guess Ukranian AF don't need it much.


User currently offlineatcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 993 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11328 times:

There are some Russian MiGs at the Pima Air Museum near Tucson...which is an outstanding museum with a truly world-class selection of historical aircraft. I don't know if you were looking for airliners or Russian aircraft in general, but that's all that I'm aware of.

I live near Phoenix and my county airport, Pinal Air Park (MZJ), is one of the better known boneyards. Although it's about 80 miles from where I live (Arizona has some gigantic counties), I'm down that way fairly regularly. While there are former airliners from all over the world stored there or left for dead, I've yet to see a Russian aircraft. It's nearly all Boeing, Douglas, and McD with several Lockheed L1011s, a few old NW Airlink RJs, and occasionally a few Airbus...but those aren't too common and they don't stay long.

However, it's still a great place to take pictures, Russian aircraft or not! I have a great time going down there to take pictures and catch the tail number to find out its story...some airplanes have pretty cool stories to tell too. When I was down there a couple years ago, I saw a Royal Brunei 777-200 on the flight line fresh from the paint shop with a UA registration. It was one of the early 777 deliveries to UA (around 1995). It was mothballed at GYR, brought back to service, leased to Varig, then went back to UA (but not back to service) and was in the process of being leased to Royal Brunei but it fell through. It was never delivered and I have no idea what happened to it, because Royal Brunei didn't get 777s until recently and they came from Singapore. It was a beautiful aircraft with a nice c/s and when I taxiied right next to it, it made my Warrior look like a joke!



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User currently offlineoly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6604 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11260 times:

There is, or was, an Il62 stored in North Carolina


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User currently offlineflyorski From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 10969 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 3):
I guess that cold winter and snow (and that was the winter we had this year) are as good for storing as desert.

I doubt that, in a desert the amount of corrosion taking place is limited. I cannot possibly imagine the same would be true for a winter with snow and ice, which melts and refreezes. Not to mention that upon the arrival of spring the aircraft would thaw.



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User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10852 times:

This truly amazing to see OK IL-62 in North Carolina.
There is obviously some history behind it.

Quoting flyorski (Reply 8):
I doubt that, in a desert the amount of corrosion taking place is limited. I cannot possibly imagine the same would be true for a winter with snow and ice, which melts and refreezes. Not to mention that upon the arrival of spring the aircraft would thaw.

Right, right. But most charter airlines in Russia store their aircraft at home during the winter period.
Like Transaero, VIM, Red Wings and some others I saw at DME.


User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10799 times:

There should be a Cubana AN-24 in Key West still. Looked like it was still there this spring when I drove by.


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User currently offlinebonusonus From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10762 times:

Not storage, or a jet, but there is an An-2 that still operates out of Mojave.

User currently offlines4popo From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 10624 times:

There are Venezuelan registered AN-26 and AN-28 stored at KTMB.

User currently offlineNumero4 From Canada, joined Feb 2010, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 10273 times:

Quoting oly720man (Reply 7):
There is, or was, an Il62 stored in North Carolina

When I read the topic title, I immediately thought of that Ilyushin VC-10  



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User currently offlinecanyonblue17 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 10250 times:

If I remember correctly there is at least one MIG (I think it's a MIG-21) on display at the Boeing Field History of Aviation Museum in Seattle. Great place to visit - they also have a Concorde and an Air Force One 707 that you can walk through there.

User currently onlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5968 posts, RR: 27
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 10170 times:
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I saw an AN-2 at YIP a few months ago. It looked like it had not moved in a long time.

Quoting fn1001 (Reply 1):
Thes plane should be somewhere in the US.

There are no shortage of Soviet fighter planes in the USA. The USAF museum in Dayton has several. There are also a number of them at museums around the country and several that fly. I saw this MiG 17 fly into YIP in June. I have seen it out on the ramp there a few times and it is a regular airshow visitor.


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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 9977 times:

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 10):
There should be a Cubana AN-24 in Key West still. Looked like it was still there this spring when I drove by

Still there!



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User currently offlineirobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7616 times:

Unfortunately, the IL-62 was broken up a few years ago, I believe.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24084 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7326 times:

Quoting oly720man (Reply 7):
There is, or was, an Il62 stored in North Carolina

One source says it was broken up in 2005.


User currently offlineezalpha From Canada, joined Mar 2010, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4760 times:
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Not sure where it's stored. Actually "based" would be more accurate. MiG15 N15VN zips by our window quite regularly.


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User currently offlinemaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1034 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4084 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18):
One source says it was broken up in 2005.

I was at Laurenburg-Maxton airport looking at a 1957 Cessna 172 for sale (I bought it!) a few weeks ago. The IL-62, Air France 707-320 and Intercontinental Airways DC-8-33 have all been scrapped, sad to say. Russ Farris


User currently offlineStudeDave From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3688 times:

NAS Fallon has several MIGs on display...

do those count???



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User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

I thought the thread was about storing aircraft during periods Russian airlines didn't utilize them?
Information about old fighters is very interesting though.

If we look at desert airfields, we will not see any considerable number of aircraft from Asia.
And not so many from Europe.
I would prefer if great IL-96-300s of the former Domodedovo Airlines and some other remainings of the unlucky AirUnion are kept in better conditions than on DME termac. While waiting for outcome of that long and slow restructuring.
As to Transaero Boeing 747-200s, their remaining value is so low that keeping them in US deserts would be unreasonable.

By the way. It would be great idea for Egypt or Israel (or rather both, for obvious reasons) to build same facilities.
It would close. It doesn't need big investment.


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3519 times:
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Quoting Spacepope (Reply 10):
There should be a Cubana AN-24 in Key West still. Looked like it was still there this spring when I drove by.

And if I don't remember bad is stored there with a pair of Mil Mi-8 from Cubana used to desert from Cuba.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2004 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3386 times:

I presume the former Soviet Union has some vast useless desert areas for storing or scrapping aircraft, there must be vast numbers of withdrawn Tu134s, 154s, Yak40s etc somewhere!


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25 NASCARAirforce : I noticed one for the first time missing wings sitting with the static displays at the Yankee Air Museum park, I never seen it there before. This Mig
26 Post contains links and images lindy field : There's an Il-14 in Polish Air Force colors on display at the Pacific Coast Air Museum in Santa Rosa, CA (STS). It was leased a couple of times to LOT
27 N49WA : Thanks for all of the great replies. I should have been more specific, yes, I did mean airliners (but the military aircraft posts are interesting too
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