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User currently offlineMadDogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 402 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5872 times:

With the upcoming drawdown of the Delta DC-9-30 and -40 fleets, I wonder what is happening with the flight crews on these aircraft. Surely there will be a number of displaced pilots that won't all fit into the crew model of the remaining DC-9-50's. Where are these crews going? Will there be a bunch of retirements, or are they transferring to other types?

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User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9700 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5829 times:

Quoting MadDogJT8D (Thread starter):

The crews will move to other types. I wouldn't think that DL would have a bunch of retirements because of it.



yep.
User currently offlinefilejw From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5814 times:

transferring to other types

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5703 times:

Many will move to the MD-88s and MD-90s. Isn't DL looking for more MD-90s?

User currently offlineazjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4027 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5528 times:

The pilots who can no longer hold the DC9 based on their seniority, will go to their next preferred seat/aircraft. They may not necessarily go to the 88/90 but could go to anywhere. Maybe they're tired of domestic shot hops, so they'll try out the international longhaul. It all depends on their seniority and their priorities.

User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6166 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5505 times:
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I was talking to a DL DC-9 captian back in June and he said he could have moved to a different aircraft a long time ago, but he just liked to fly the DC-9. He told me that he was switching to the A320/A319 when the -30s/-40s were retired.


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User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7564 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5390 times:

Actually many have already switched off the DC-9, in fact the new pilot class that just got their wings some of them are going to the DC-9


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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5303 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 6):
Actually many have already switched off the DC-9, in fact the new pilot class that just got their wings some of them are going to the DC-9

That's a tad surprising but I guess it makes sense. Makes me think of back in 2007 when new hires were going straight into the right seat of the 763ER @ the NYC base.



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User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7564 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5204 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 7):
Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 6):
Actually many have already switched off the DC-9, in fact the new pilot class that just got their wings some of them are going to the DC-9

That's a tad surprising but I guess it makes sense. Makes me think of back in 2007 when new hires were going straight into the right seat of the 763ER @ the NYC base.

Some of the new hires went to the DC-9, some to the A320, and some to the M88/90



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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6933 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5184 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 7):
That's a tad surprising but I guess it makes sense. Makes me think of back in 2007 when new hires were going straight into the right seat of the 763ER @ the NYC base.

Not bad at all. Seems that DL is always looking to hire for the NYC base (hence the F/A hirings.)



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User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7564 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5147 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 9):
Not bad at all. Seems that DL is always looking to hire for the NYC base (hence the F/A hirings.)

Probably because its the base nobody really wants, hence why it tends to be the most junior base.



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7768 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5115 times:

Quoting azjubilee (Reply 4):
The pilots who can no longer hold the DC9 based on their seniority, will go to their next preferred seat/aircraft. They may not necessarily go to the 88/90 but could go to anywhere. Maybe they're tired of domestic shot hops, so they'll try out the international longhaul. It all depends on their seniority and their priorities.

Once things started opening up with some retirements and increased widebody flying there were openings in other fleet types were people started moving up to other types.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 5):
I was talking to a DL DC-9 captian back in June and he said he could have moved to a different aircraft a long time ago, but he just liked to fly the DC-9. He told me that he was switching to the A320/A319 when the -30s/-40s were retired.

Yep, there are some who really enjoy flying the -9. They like the 'old school' flying characteristics of the -9, and enjoy doing multiple short hops per day, and don't enjoy long-haul, cross multiple timezone flying.

Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 1):
The crews will move to other types. I wouldn't think that DL would have a bunch of retirements because of it.

Yep, in fact quite the opposite, DL is hiring pilots. There will still be 34 -50's around so the high seniority guys who want to finish their career on the -9 will most likely be able to ride it out into the sunset.

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 7):
That's a tad surprising but I guess it makes sense. Makes me think of back in 2007 when new hires were going straight into the right seat of the 763ER @ the NYC base.

NYC goes junior, particular for FOs (and the FA base) simply because of the high cost-of-living, and commuting challenges


User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6166 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5105 times:
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Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 10):
Probably because its the base nobody really wants, hence why it tends to be the most junior base.

I would think that is a very expensive place to live, especially for low seniority crews. I would much rather base at DTW. You can get a house near the airport dirt cheap. You can buy fixer uppers in my neighborhood ( 5 miles from DTW) for less than $10,000.



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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6933 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5082 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 12):
I would think that is a very expensive place to live, especially for low seniority crews. I would much rather base at DTW. You can get a house near the airport dirt cheap. You can buy fixer uppers in my neighborhood ( 5 miles from DTW) for less than $10,000.

Probably want to install a good alarm system too. I would imagine a great place to live as an FA in the DL network would be MEM. Super cheap.



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User currently offlinenwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3408 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5068 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 13):
I would imagine a great place to live as an FA in the DL network would be MEM. Super cheap.

Might want to invest in a good alarm there, too, depending on what part of town...



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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6933 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5047 times:

Quoting nwaesc (Reply 14):
Might want to invest in a good alarm there, too, depending on what part of town...

If you want to live cheaply as an F/A in a second tier city in america, might want to invest in an alarm no matter what. That goes for certain parts of NYC as well.  



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User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6166 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4976 times:
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Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 13):
Probably want to install a good alarm system too

Nope. I have lived in that neighborhood for 10 years and never had any trouble, except with a nieghbor's kid. The place is safe and full of families. The homes were selling for over $100,000 just six years ago. I owe $78,000 on a house that is now worth $20,000. Keep in mind that these homes are not very big, usually less than 1200 square feet and were built in the 1950s.
Right a lot of people don't want to live in a small house, in a working class area, that is that close to the airport.
A common miscomception is that all of the Detroit metro area is like the city of Detroit.

If you want to live in a neighborhood that isn't safe you can live really cheap. I know of a few houses that sold for less than a $1000. The house across the street from a buddy of mine in Detroit sold for $480.00. His house, the largest and nicest on the block, sold for $7,700.



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User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7564 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4964 times:

It's not all the cost of living, its the trips, flights, airport, and just an all around mess of a place to be.


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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4758 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 13):

Probably want to install a good alarm system too. I would imagine a great place to live as an FA in the DL network would be MEM. Super cheap.

Nothing better than being based out of ATL! If/when I get my flying going again, I would apply to ASA first for that reason alone.



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User currently offlineGoBoeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2725 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 17):
It's not all the cost of living, its the trips, flights, airport, and just an all around mess of a place to be.

Can you elaborate please?

It's the only US airport other than Denver that's even close to most airports overseas.


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