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B6 Flight Into SMF Performing Full Evac Now  
User currently offlineGVROYphx From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 120 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12660 times:

Hearing B6 262 doing a full evac on the rwy at KSMF. Anyone know what's going on? Our flights are taking a delay.

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User currently onlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2891 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12597 times:

News is reporting blown tires which lead to sparking:

http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/...t-blue-catches-fire,0,571925.story



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User currently offlineTimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1336 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12573 times:

Hopefully the injuries aren't too serious, injuries during evac can be very nasty indeed - there was a woman killed during an evac of a Saudi 747 a few years ago.

User currently offlinetaxpilot From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 98 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12374 times:

Flightaware is showing normal arrivals and departures. KSMF two parallel runways are widely seperated.

User currently onlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2891 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12195 times:

This one has some video and a still-frame pic that shows multiple tires are blown:

http://cbs13.com/breakingnews/jet.blue.fire.2.1881190.html



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4676 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11944 times:

I wonder If anyone grabbed a couple beers before they jumped....


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User currently offlineloggat From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11470 times:

Sounds like they landed with the parking brake on. ***personal speculation***


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User currently offlinefpetrutiu From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11417 times:

Sounds like another ex-Navy carrier pilot landing... Sorry couldn't stand not taking the jab at my fellow flyers... I think he was looking for the aresting cables...

Glad everyone is OK...


User currently offlineAFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10873 times:

In general I am not a fan of excessive caution and safety (you should see me drive!), but I think it's very wise to evac when there is any fire. I know there can be injuries, but that's better than the alternative should the aircraft catch fire.

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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5648 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10725 times:

Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 8):
but I think it's very wise to evac when there is any fire

That's SOP at every airline. Fire and/or smoke = Run away, fast.

I once initiated an "evacuation" (the FAs and one lone passenger left after the plane arrived, the left through the jetway) because I saw flames coming from the tailpipe. I ran up and said "get out of here now, there's a fire". It's scary stuff, let me tell you.



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User currently offlineatcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1205 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8989 times:

I think the evac probably went well because JetBlue employees are getting plenty of practice lately! Maybe JetBlue needs to consider buying their emergency slides in bulk from Costco. Seriously though, it's good to see in one of the articles that a passenger praised the efficiency and professionalism of the cabin crew and that the passengers remained calm. I love B6 and all jokes aside, this is exactly how an evac should be done and it's good to see cabin crews who utilize their training well to keep passengers calm and de-plane the aircraft as quickly and safely as possible. Although it does suck that they're in the news again...very unlucky to say the least.

User currently offlineacalikk From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8950 times:

according to CNN four people taken to the hospital...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/26/cal...nia.jetblue.hard.landing/?hpt=Sbin


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5648 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8871 times:

I love how the media is calling it a "hard landing", when clearly, based on the passengers reports, photos, and pilot statements that the brakes locked up.


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User currently offlineN587NK From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 301 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8647 times:
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I also love the fact that pax are saying the F/As panicked. that happens a lot though, pax confuse the yelling of emergency commands, with "panicking"

User currently offlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1399 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8029 times:
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Maybe JetBlue need to take better care of their wheels eh?
Not too long ago they had a broken nose gear that also put on a fireworks show  



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User currently onlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2891 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7203 times:

Quoting JohnKrist (Reply 14):
Maybe JetBlue need to take better care of their wheels eh?
Not too long ago they had a broken nose gear that also put on a fireworks show

Ummmm...okay, let's just make something clear. The N536JB incident didn't have anything to do with wheels. It had to do with the design of the internal components of the actual NLG and strut assembly (and that was a few years ago...and was not the first time it happened to an A320).

As far as the mains that blew on this incident, I highly doubt that it had anything to do with the integrity of the wheels. As others have mentioned before in this thread, there are 3 other possibilities that are much more likely (and I can say this as a member of the Technical Operations/Technical Supply Chain crew here...the people that supply, oversee repair and install the tires) and that would be a fault with the braking system/stuck brakes (which is the most likely), a hard landing (not as likely, I doubt all 4 would blow, we've all seen hard landing and all 4 blowing would be rare), or last would be FOD. I am really going to go with what's behind door #1 on this. We don't use R/T at most airports unless it's a short runway, so the brakes are applied right after the spoilers are up as the primary means of slowing the a/c so I am thinking it has something to do with the brakes.

~H81



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User currently offlineRB211TriStar From United States of America, joined May 2007, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6038 times:

Fox News just interviewed a passenger. Sounds like a hard landing from her perspective. But then again, its a passenger's perspective.

User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6669 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5981 times:

A landing that ended up in an evacuation will always be "hard" in the PAX mind ! I'm sure some would even talk about a crash !


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User currently offlinejmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3279 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5888 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 15):
Ummmm...okay, let's just make something clear. The N536JB incident didn't have anything to do with wheels.

What was the reg. on this one?



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User currently offlineFlyMeToTheMoon From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 242 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5804 times:

At least it was not another FA sliding down   


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User currently onlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2891 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5762 times:

Quoting jmc1975 (Reply 18):
What was the reg. on this one?

FWIK, N590JB.



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User currently offlineSanti319 From Mexico, joined Dec 2005, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5287 times:

They had another evacuation in FLL at around 9pm yesterday....

User currently offlinelitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1765 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5143 times:
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Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 7):
Sounds like another ex-Navy carrier pilot landing... Sorry couldn't stand not taking the jab at my fellow flyers... I think he was looking for the aresting cables...

I remember a few years back, landing on Ryanair (flying for Airtran, prior to the 737s) in Vegas ...

THUD! ... bins pop open, etc ...

Guy in front of me goes "well, I know where HE learned to fly" ... and his buddy responds "yeah, the deck of the John F Kennedy" ...

- litz


User currently offlineKingFriday013 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1300 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4839 times:

The Aviation Herald says brake problems led to a brake fire upon landing.

More info here: http://www.avherald.com/h?article=43023647

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User currently offlinewjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5165 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4019 times:

Quoting litz (Reply 22):
I remember a few years back, landing on Ryanair (flying for Airtran, prior to the 737s) in Vegas ...

That was actually Ryan International, based then in Kansas, now in RFD.


25 jetMARC : Do you have any info/proof? Haven't heard anything and the chances of an airline having another evac the next day sounds highly unlikely...
26 type-rated : I am very sorry this incident occured, but I am happy that they are reporting arm & skin burns from the evacuation slides. For years I have mentio
27 spchamp1 : It is in fact Tail N590JB. From what I heard today, the plane was still on RWY 16R as of 1400 Pacific. Due to all four tires being blown/flat they can
28 Santi319 : Hey I was working that day, and saw it with my own eyes 2100 local time, don't know why nobody posted it on this.
29 jetMARC : We would have heard something internally. What did you see exactly? Maybe it was mx testing a slide...
30 Santi319 : Got some info from FLL employees, it was a hydraulic issue, they had no control over the aircraft apparently..it happened on runway 9L/27R
31 jetMARC : Was it an actual evacuation or just emergency landing? I'm sure crash and rescue was ready and waiting... you actually see them blow slides? We are he
32 asuflyer05 : Obviously they had control of the aircraft.
33 Santi319 : Well you must know more than me if you work for B6 and haven't heard anything, I saw the slides and the ambulances around the airplane. We had to take
34 Maverick623 : I don't mean to be rude, but ambulances generally do NOT surround an airplane on the runway unless there's multiple injuries. Which brings us to: The
35 Post contains links skyguyB727 : Here's a link to that incident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEe8YuLPl2A I found it very interesting that there was a lot of fire, sparks, and smok
36 richierich : I'm not sure what you heard, Santi, because my friend on the ground in FLL reports no such event. As jetMARC said, if another JetBlue flight had to p
37 jetMARC : It's our first on the A320, we had two others in the E190 this year - one in NAS, the other in SJU, both smoke in the cabin. If anything, this additio
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