Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
BOS, Terminal C - What's Happening?  
User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 620 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6201 times:

Terminal C is by far my favorite terminal at Boston Logan International Airport. I love the unusual layout of the check-in counters, the wavy glass roof, and the JetBlue hub.

Recently, I read on this website that Terminal C will undergo some renovations starting in the spring of 2010 and will be completed by the summer of 2011.

Huh? I was in Terminal C twice earlier this summer, and nothing had changed.

The article says that the UA and B6/9K piers will be connected post-security, mainly due to B6 gates starting to overflow into the UA gates. Passengers will be directed to a central, 12-lane security checkpoint in the middle of the terminal that will access both sides of Terminal C. What? Isn't that where the JetBlue counters are now? The website says that pax should not face any disruptions during the construction/changes.

I am quite confused about all of this. I look forward to reading your responses.

-Wilson

63 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8384 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5950 times:

Quoting AlnessW (Thread starter):
I am quite confused about all of this. I look forward to reading your responses.

Sounds pretty clear. Build a consolidated security checkpoint behind B6's checkin area, and connect both piers of terminal C. As the article states:
"Passengers should face little disruption, since none of the terminal's existing ticketing and baggage-check positions will be moved. Instead, crews will add onto the back side of the terminal, creating the passageway and concession space."
Maybe that is why you don't see anything going on.

Here's the annoucement directly from Massport:
http://www.massport.com/news-room/Ne...pprovesNewSecurityCheckpointC.aspx


User currently offlinejcarv From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5737 times:

When were you there last? It has begun. All the shops/restaurants have closed along the main terminal back wall where jetBlue's ticket counter is. They are all temporary kiosks now. All the offices behind the jetBlue counter have closed and work as been started behind there. They have also been working outside because they will be bumping out the building to accommodate this checkpoint. The ceiling as been taken down in the main ticketing hall to be replaced. It is suppose to have a bright and open feel when completed. United will eventually be out of that terminal over time. Both Piers B & C will be jetBlue's.

User currently offlinejetbluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2987 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5636 times:

How many gates does this put in B6's hands?

Their winter schedule calls for 97 daily flights. Quite a major operation.

JetBluefan1



Most people on a.net hate JetBlue. Get used to it.
User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 942 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5476 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

The UA side of Terminal C will almost certainly have to take on the CO flights to EWR , CLE and IAH that are currently served out of terminal A... because there is no way that the UA flights can be moved over to the current CO gates at Terminal A.

User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5452 times:

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 4):
The UA side of Terminal C will almost certainly have to take on the CO flights to EWR , CLE and IAH that are currently served out of terminal A... because there is no way that the UA flights can be moved over to the current CO gates at Terminal A.

If CO/UA moves into Terminal C, Massport will want to move someone (F9, FL) into Terminal A so that B6 can expand. They really want more gates.



2013 World Series Champions!
User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5420 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 1):
Build a consolidated security checkpoint behind B6's checkin area, and connect both piers of terminal C.


Where would the entrances be then if it's behind B6's counters? Would they be on either end (where the checkpoints are right now)? I thought new shops are going to be put in over there. How about the security exits to baggage claim? Are the current (exit) escalators coming out too?

Quoting airbazar (Reply 1):
Maybe that is why you don't see anything going on.


Possibly.

Quoting jcarv (Reply 2):
When were you there last? It has begun.


Late June and again in late July of this year.

Quoting jcarv (Reply 2):
All the shops/restaurants have closed along the main terminal back wall where jetBlue's ticket counter is. They are all temporary kiosks now. All the offices behind the jetBlue counter have closed and work as been started behind there. They have also been working outside because they will be bumping out the building to accommodate this checkpoint. The ceiling as been taken down in the main ticketing hall to be replaced. It is suppose to have a bright and open feel when completed.


I didn't notice any of that.

Quoting jcarv (Reply 2):
United will eventually be out of that terminal over time. Both Piers B & C will be jetBlue's.


Where would UA go instead?

Quoting jetbluefan1 (Reply 3):
How many gates does this put in B6's hands?


21 I would think. This includes all 10 of United's gates (C11-C21) plus their 11 current gates (C25-C36)

Quoting jetbluefan1 (Reply 3):
Their winter schedule calls for 97 daily flights. Quite a major operation.


Nice. Let's get some B6 nonstop flights to PDX please!!!

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 4):
The UA side of Terminal C will almost certainly have to take on the CO flights to EWR , CLE and IAH that are currently served out of terminal A... because there is no way that the UA flights can be moved over to the current CO gates at Terminal A.


What is going to happen to CO's gates in Terminal A and UA's gates in Terminal C, anyways? If this stupid merger happens...


User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5404 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 5):
If CO/UA moves into Terminal C, Massport will want to move someone (F9, FL) into Terminal A so that B6 can expand. They really want more gates.

That makes sense. They are already overflowing into UA's gates.


User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4280 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 6):

Quoting jcarv (Reply 2):
United will eventually be out of that terminal over time. Both Piers B & C will be jetBlue's.


Where would UA go instead?

  

There isn't anyplace for a combined UA/CO to go. With DL expanding BOS again, they aren't going to give UA/CO any more gates in A. As we have discussed in other threads, the amount of gates UA has in C, is about what they wlll need for a combined operation. There is no other place in the airport at the moment that has enough gates for a combined UA/CO. Really, the only solution to the B6 gate situation for B6 and US to trade places. US does not need as many gates for their operation as they have in B, and moving them into C would give them fewer gates, but it would combine Star alliance at C, plus B6 and AA seem to be buddy buddy these days and they would be the two primary tennants in B.

I don't see a terminal swap happening. And the other thing Massport has to be weary about is airlines have gained extra gates in the past, and then they end up sitting on them, and promised expansion never seems to happen. AA, DL, and US are all airlines in the past that have even poured their own money into new gate space, and all three carriers have underutilized gate space years later. They have to be real careful with B6 that it doesn't happen there either.


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5218 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 8):
With DL expanding BOS again, they aren't going to give UA/CO any more gates in A.

Are they really expanding BOS? They are resuming BOS-LAS and adding new BOS-LHR (and that will arrive at Terminal E, so it's one less flight at Terminal A) but that is how many flights? Has DL said anything about expanding BOS again?

Quoting apodino (Reply 8):
I don't see a terminal swap happening. And the other thing Massport has to be weary about is airlines have gained extra gates in the past, and then they end up sitting on them, and promised expansion never seems to happen. AA, DL, and US are all airlines in the past that have even poured their own money into new gate space, and all three carriers have underutilized gate space years later. They have to be real careful with B6 that it doesn't happen there either.

I definately agree with you on that one. I really hope that B6 doesn't go down the same path. As time goes on we'll have to see what unfolds.



2013 World Series Champions!
User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5144 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 8):
Really, the only solution to the B6 gate situation for B6 and US to trade places. US does not need as many gates for their operation as they have in B, and moving them into C would give them fewer gates, but it would combine Star alliance at C, plus B6 and AA seem to be buddy buddy these days and they would be the two primary tennants in B.

I was saying that too, thinking it was crazy logistically, but it worked perfectly if you could pull off the move and compensate everybody for moving.

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 6):

I didn't notice any of that.

Even if you're a frequent BOS traveler, you might not have noticed it. the stores in those positions weren't very high traffic stores - i think it was a hat store, a fudge store, a day spa sort of thing, and a brookstone sort of thing. the massport map seems to indicate they're all closed now; I can't picture whether they are or aren't and I was there a couple days back.


User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6477 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5081 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 9):
Are they really expanding BOS? They are resuming BOS-LAS and adding new BOS-LHR (and that will arrive at Terminal E, so it's one less flight at Terminal A)




Yes, they will arrive at terminal E but will depart from terminal A, just like the AMS flights.


User currently offlinejcarv From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4980 times:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 6):
Late June and again in late July of this year.

Ok. You must have just missed it. They started right after you were there on the interior stuff. The future entrance to the combined checkpoint would be on either side of the jetBlue ticket counters where stores once were.

There are 11 gates in Pier C. C25 is currently unusable due to a temporary expanded Pier C security checkpoint. jetBlue currently uses 10 gates in Pier C, 1 of which ( Gate C27) is basically unusable during day due to Cape Air operations there. In Pier B, which has 10 total gates, jetBlue leases 2 and UAL leases 8. United is returning another gate (C21) shortly to bring jetBlue's gate to a total of 3 in that pier. Terminal C will be jetBlue's terminal. AFA CO/UA operations, unknown as of now but it won't be Terminal C. jetBlue is Massport's current baby so it's all about them. There will be some shuffling of gates/terminals soon I would imagine.


User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4811 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 8):
With DL expanding BOS again, they aren't going to give UA/CO any more gates in A. As we have discussed in other threads, the amount of gates UA has in C, is about what they wlll need for a combined operation. There is no other place in the airport at the moment that has enough gates for a combined UA/CO.


If UA's gates in C will be enough for their combined operation, then what's going to happen to CO's gates in A?

Quoting apodino (Reply 8):
Really, the only solution to the B6 gate situation for B6 and US to trade places. US does not need as many gates for their operation as they have in B, and moving them into C would give them fewer gates, but it would combine Star alliance at C, plus B6 and AA seem to be buddy buddy these days and they would be the two primary tennants in B.


But aren't they renovating Terminal C specifically for B6 operations?

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 9):
and adding new BOS-LHR (and that will arrive at Terminal E, so it's one less flight at Terminal A)


DL service from BOS-LHR? Doesn't BOS already have like 5 flights that operate that route already? BA, AA, VS...

Quoting tharanga (Reply 10):
Even if you're a frequent BOS traveler, you might not have noticed it. the stores in those positions weren't very high traffic stores - i think it was a hat store, a fudge store, a day spa sort of thing, and a brookstone sort of thing. the massport map seems to indicate they're all closed now; I can't picture whether they are or aren't and I was there a couple days back.


That sounds about right.

Quoting bobnwa (Reply 11):
Yes, they will arrive at terminal E but will depart from terminal A, just like the AMS flights.


Also same as AA's LHR flights (depart from B2, arrive at E), and B6's Mexico arrivals.

Quoting jcarv (Reply 12):
Ok. You must have just missed it. They started right after you were there on the interior stuff.


Thanks. No wonder I didn't notice.

Quoting jcarv (Reply 12):
The future entrance to the combined checkpoint would be on either side of the jetBlue ticket counters where stores once were.


Also where the current (separate) checkpoints are now?

Quoting jcarv (Reply 12):
There are 11 gates in Pier C. C25 is currently unusable due to a temporary expanded Pier C security checkpoint. jetBlue currently uses 10 gates in Pier C, 1 of which ( Gate C27) is basically unusable during day due to Cape Air operations there.


I wasn't aware of C25 being unusable, but I had indeed forgotten about 9K's gate C27.

Now, how about the current security exits? Right now they have hallways at one side of each checkpoint that leads you out of security to an enclosed escalator that takes you down to arrivals/baggage claim. Are these being removed as well? Will the new checkpoint have these?


User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4788 times:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 13):
But aren't they renovating Terminal C specifically for B6 operations?

Yes, but circumstances can change. So far, it sure looks like B6 will stay in C, and expand there. But letting B6 expand further into the other Terminal C pier, while also consolidating UA/CO somewhere, do not seem like two tasks that can both be easily accomplished.


User currently offlinecontrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4692 times:

Whats going on up in BOS is very similar to what we went through here at JFK when we first started out. Sharing a terminal, then being the only occupants. Flight wise pretty similar as well although I don't think you'll see BOS handling as many as JFK but one would say almost 100 flts is hub status. Now instead of building a terminal like JFK there renovating. I got to work up in BOS not too long ago and the terminal looks just like the crappy conditions we worked with toward the end of T-6 at JFK. I actually joked around a lot with crew up there, especially about the out of date bag room they have that is actually worse then our old one but changes are on the way and the new terminal will be great for pax and workers.


Giants football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4285 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4655 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 6):
Where would UA go instead?

There are 22 gates in terminal A -- if you include satellite gates as well as landside gates. And two of the gates -- 8 and 20 -- can handle widebodies. A few of the satellite gates sit idle much of the day.

The USAirways side of terminal B has 21 gates. Four are already being used by AC, NK, and YX [1,2,3,15]. And gate 9 is configured for "Express" operations only. Gates 13, 14, 19, 20, and 21 sit idle much of the day.

The *absolute* ideal would be for all the Star Alliance carriers [AC, UA, US] to be togther in B while NK and YX are placed elsewhere -- carriers could share the Envoy Club lounge which already exists. But UA *could* fit into A with CO and DL. UA could share Continental's President's Club lounge which already exists.


User currently offlineweb500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 740 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4634 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 13):
DL service from BOS-LHR? Doesn't BOS already have like 5 flights that operate that route already? BA, AA, VS...

the ATI approval requires AA/BA to give up 4 LHR-USA slots, 2 have to be to BOS and one to MIA.

DL is applying for the BOS and MIA slots



Boiler Up!
User currently offlinejcarv From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 13):
I wasn't aware of C25 being unusable, but I had indeed forgotten about 9K's gate C27.

Some time ago, they added 1 or 2 lanes to accommodate all the pax jetBlue has. The lines were ridiculously long. To do this, they knocked out a wall and expanded into the gate hold area of C25.

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 13):
Now, how about the current security exits?

I dont know the actual plans or logistics, but Im thinking the exit lanes will remain the same as that would be a major overhaul involving the foundation of the building and a big project.

AFA a new home for the combined UA/CO, I have heard rumors of US Airways terminal. Their gate usage is not maximized during the day and they would have to just do a lot of towing. Spirit is actually on the AAL side now for a couple years. US lost contract to AE. Im sure the YX/F9 would like to move out of US terminal. US is not kind to YX during irregular ops. Ive seen 3 aircraft on ground at once for use of 1 gate. Not good.


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4560 times:

Quoting bobnwa (Reply 11):
Yes, they will arrive at terminal E but will depart from terminal A, just like the AMS flights.

That's what I meant by one less flight at Terminal A- no unloading, so the plane is there for less time.

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 16):
The *absolute* ideal would be for all the Star Alliance carriers [AC, UA, US] to be togther in B while NK and YX are placed elsewhere -- carriers could share the Envoy Club lounge which already exists. But UA *could* fit into A with CO and DL. UA could share Continental's President's Club lounge which already exists.

Hopefully you're right about that. NK and YX (YX now being F9) are LCCs, so they probably would avoid Terminal A since the gates are more expensive IIRC.



2013 World Series Champions!
User currently offlinejcarv From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4548 times:

As a side note, the forever available Gate B37 is available. Has been for sometime. Ideal for YX I would think.

User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4525 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 19):
Hopefully you're right about that. NK and YX (YX now being F9) are LCCs, so they probably would avoid Terminal A since the gates are more expensive IIRC.

If you consolidate the USA based Star alliance carriers in B (are we sure they'd all fit? What's the total RJ, narrowbody and widebody operations of US, UA and CO?), I guess YX or NK could go into Terminal C with B6. In the case of YX, go back to C.

But I'm guessing that this scenario would require quite some attention to Terminal B to make it suitable.

How is WN doing on the other side? How long before they'll want more gates?

I'm guessing VX is happy with what they have right now?


User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4513 times:

Quoting contrails15 (Reply 15):
I actually joked around a lot with crew up there, especially about the out of date bag room they have that is actually worse then our old one but changes are on the way and the new terminal will be great for pax and workers.


All true. The current baggage claim/arrivals area is definitely long past due for some upgrades.

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 16):
There are 22 gates in terminal A -- if you include satellite gates as well as landside gates. And two of the gates -- 8 and 20 -- can handle widebodies. A few of the satellite gates sit idle much of the day.


Correct, but CO currently doesn't use any of the satellite gates for their flights. Only AS and DL (I think) use the satellite.

Quoting jcarv (Reply 18):
Some time ago, they added 1 or 2 lanes to accommodate all the pax jetBlue has. The lines were ridiculously long. To do this, they knocked out a wall and expanded into the gate hold area of C25.


And yet, I still hear B6's security line remains long. I haven't departed BOS on B6 in ages...

Quoting jcarv (Reply 18):
I dont know the actual plans or logistics, but Im thinking the exit lanes will remain the same as that would be a major overhaul involving the foundation of the building and a big project.


Good point. That does make sense, also having two exit lanes on either end would be more convenient, I assume, depending on what pier you are arriving from, etc.


User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4285 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4475 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting tharanga (Reply 21):
But I'm guessing that this scenario would require quite some attention to Terminal B to make it suitable.

Except for the new wing built for the USAir shuttle, B is in sad shape architecturally / mechanical-systems-wise / decor-wise. But fresh paint and new carpeting would do wonders.


User currently offlinejcarv From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4325 times:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 22):
And yet, I still hear B6's security line remains long. I haven't departed BOS on B6 in ages...

This is true in morning. They operate a ridiculous schedule where so many flights depart so close together. 5-6 flights depart at once practically. A lot of people to squeeze through an aged checkpoint.


25 jfklganyc : As much as CO/UA fans in BOS hate to hear it, the renovations to consolidate checkpoints is being done for B6 as they expand into the other concourse.
26 tharanga : Yes, yes, but as much as B6 fans hate to hear it (and I am one, by the way), UA/CO won't just disappear, or fit into whatever unreasonably paltry num
27 apodino : The only other Option here is Massport had talked about building a Terminal F for a while, which would be located on the NW side of Terminal E. This w
28 tharanga : Right. There's room out there, but that's long term. The issue with BOS is really the lack of airside connections between gates. The total number of
29 airbazar : [quote=tharanga,reply=28]The issue with BOS is really the lack of airside connections between gates. The total number of gates is high enough.[/quotes
30 ScottB : That's even assuming the current airfield could support the amount of traffic that would justify an additional 20-gate terminal. The lack of airside
31 tharanga : Perhaps I shouldn't say it's so much the fact that gates aren't connected airside, as much as the fact that the terminals are standalone. I don't thi
32 AlnessW : Right. I don't know who else would move... I know what you're talking about. Like Terminal C right now has 3 security checkpoints, all of which are n
33 apodino : Well, now that B6 has announced plans to enter the BOS-EWR market, don't expect UA/CO to voluntarily do them any favors in BOS, as in give up gates so
34 DeltAirlines : There are 18 gates with jetways at Terminal A. Gates 9-12 are a RJ complex with 7 ground-level boarding positions. The only gate in Terminal A that c
35 BOStonsox : I don't think they are going to really make a big deal over that. The UA side certainly won't. UA hasn't put up much of a fight on BOS-IAD/ORD/DEN/SF
36 tharanga : Well, whatever is happening, somebody needs to repaint the ceiling of the main check-in hall. Yuck.
37 airbazar : I understand what you meant. It would be great for example, for passengers connecting from a inbound US or AA flight to an outbound LH or BA flight,
38 tharanga : well, I'm not talking about airside connections anymore. I'm making a more simple pedantic point: if you add up the gate requirements of all airlines
39 AlnessW : Than you for the detailed information, DeltAirlines. Wouldn't DL use a 767 for an AMS flight? Or would it be an A330? But if a combined UA/CO needs t
40 DeltAirlines : The AMS flight is currently scheduled with an A330-300. In the summers, they've added an extra 757/767-300 on the route, but there is a year-round A3
41 apodino : A long time ago (15 years at least), UA was doing the same thing. What are now gates B37 and B38, were actually gates C42 and C43. UA used them a cou
42 jfklganyc : "Well, now that B6 has announced plans to enter the BOS-EWR market, don't expect UA/CO to voluntarily do them any favors in BOS, as in give up gates s
43 Post contains images RL757PVD : You think a combined UA/CO is going to fit in 4 gates in Terminal A? Delta doesnt have any more gates they can give up, and if they add any more flig
44 bobnwa : As far as I know, DL doesn't own Terminal A. Massport owns it. Could be wrong, but that is my understanding.
45 RL757PVD : I still cant see Massport forcing Delta to give up gates, especially if they are willing to lease more (possible with the current expansion). The bes
46 jcarv : I believe Massport to Terminal A back from Delta during their bankruptcy.
47 kgaiflyer : Going to B? AC, F9, NK and VX are *already* in B. AC, F9, and NK occupy 4 gates on the USAir side of B -- VX is on the AA side. Gate B9 -- which has
48 RL757PVD : I know some of them were, i was mainly implying "everyone else". I know its not the desired set up and we already discussed there is no easy way to d
49 apodino : at least Gates 4-14 and 15-21 are linked post security so you don't need to leave the sterile area to access them. 1-3 is a different story, but sinc
50 RL757PVD : What about moving Cape Air to the old Terminal D Air Tran area, can they have a way for those to be access from the Jet Blue gates once this project i
51 AlnessW : Thank for the detailed info, apodino. CO uses only 4 gates? I know that Delta uses most of the gates in the Satellite Building (gates A13-A22), one o
52 AlnessW : This would only free up one gate for B6. 9K only uses one gate in the current B6 pier, gate C27.
53 RL757PVD : There is not enough room anywhere on the airport for a 10-gate combined UA/CO operation One remaining solution would be to run EWR or EWR and ORD fli
54 apodino : The one problem is that these are the gates that WN will want to use for their future growth, since they are linked to E on the secure side. The comm
55 AlnessW : Do they need 10 gates? I though CO only needs 4 in Terminal A. And then use an airside shuttle bus to connect the 2 terminals. Where are the old Term
56 apodino : Delta runs the Shuttle from gates 1-4 in the main terminal. Continental uses gates 5-8. The remaining gates in the main terminal are all RJ gates, an
57 Post contains images kgaiflyer : Since I use Cape Air, I second that motion. The current arrangement where arriving passengers climb two flights of stairs near gate C21 -- dragging t
58 DeltAirlines : Delta also tends to run E-175s/CRJ-900s out of Gate 1/2 as well. JFK CRJ-900s tend to go out of there. I also expect the DCA flights to end up going
59 AlnessW : Thank you for the clarification. Interesting. I didn't know DL used gates in the main building. Correct. WN uses E1A-E1C, but not E1D and E1E. I didn
60 ctermua : Nitpicking I"m sure...but UA has given up Gates 12 and 14 to Jetblue, and yes they were both used, 14 right up to the week before Jetblue took over.
61 AlnessW : I think that's the best option. I think US does use the Shuttle gates (B15-B21) for some mainline departures already. Thanks for the clarification!
62 kgaiflyer : B15 is F9/YX And AC which uses two gates.
63 AlnessW : Would AC need to move? They only use gates B1-B3, and those are not connected to the US Airways side.
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
What's Happening With B6 Terminal? posted Tue Mar 1 2005 23:02:22 by JFKLGANYC
What's Happening To TWA's New York JFK Terminal? posted Fri Nov 16 2001 02:33:48 by Crosswind
History Of BOS Terminal E posted Fri May 7 2010 13:29:54 by uwbadger0509
What's Happening With AA At DFW? posted Mon Jul 27 2009 08:24:02 by Contrails
Anyone Know What's Happening In Cannes (LFMD) posted Sun Jun 28 2009 07:00:06 by Shamrock604
What's Happening With Ilfc? posted Wed Mar 4 2009 01:39:29 by Scouseflyer
What's Happening With Alitalia At The Moment? posted Mon Oct 20 2008 01:21:16 by SkidMarque
What's Happening To A380 Windows? posted Wed Sep 24 2008 03:31:01 by Braybuddy
What's Happening With MIA-VLN? posted Thu Aug 21 2008 13:17:22 by Poh2
What Happening With This Plane? posted Thu May 22 2008 13:07:50 by Rscaife1682