GE From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 320 posts, RR: 6 Posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2518 times:
Pls take a look at the picture below. I'm a little unsure whether it's taking off or landing as the flaps don't look very clear at that angle. I'm thinking it could be taking off by looking at the engine exhausts. It most likely wouldn't be landing as it's engines would be idle (no engine exhausts) and it's a little too high a flare angle.
Then again, is that the threeshold/touchdown point I see a little behind and below the aircraft?
Please help me out on this one. Thanks in advance.
Boeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2328 times:
Hmmmm ..... tough call. The markings look like 500 ft distance markers. I was hoping they were touchdown zone markings. That would have made it easier. My quess is takeoff. The exhaust streams coming from the engines seems pretty concentrated. But that's just a quess.
Sim Pilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2275 times:
I think landing because if you look at the flaps in relation to the wing you can sort of visually tell that they are down more than 5 or 10 degrees. most planes takeoff with 5 or 10 degrees of flaps. Also if you look at the elevator it it up quite a bit for takeoff. When planes land they are going pretty slow compared to there takeoff speed so they need more control input to move the plane. Unless he is doing a really slow takeoff I think he is landing. Also the sise of the plane would require it to rotate past the 500 foot marks. Hope this long and boring message helps
Flyordie From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2213 times:
I agree with LUFC and everyone else who says landing! There are a few facts supporting this conclusion:
1) Flare seems too high for landing.
2) Flaps are not fully extended.
3) And I think this should settle it; If you look closely, the plane appears to be situated between two runway markers - the dual 3 line behind it and dual 2 line in front of it. This means that the plane is approaching the end of the runway and has only a little over 1,000 feet of runway remaining in front of it. Therefore, if it was landing, we would have heard about it on the news!
Catpac From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2074 times:
sorry the reply must have been submitted at the same time cause I certainly haven't seen Andy's post....but quite frankly when I see a larger jet land whether its a 767/330/340/747 whatever, their flaps are in most cases almost perpendicular to it's wings i.e. large flap setting (30-40 degrees)
Aloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2055 times:
It is absolutely take-off. Look at the flap postion, it;s in the 10-15 degree range, and the angle of the aircraft as well.
5-15 degree flap settings are used for takeoff, while when an aircraft is flaring for touchdown flaps are usually at full.
As far as the angle of the aircraft's pitch-
At the pitch the aircraft is at, it would have to be doing a great deal of speed in order to not have a hard landing. At that flap setting, she'd settle onto the runway quite hard, especially at low (150-170 kts) landing speeds. I'd say she's taking off.