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Two Men Arrested After United Flight To AMS  
User currently offlineual747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 14264 times:

Two Men suspected of carrying "fake" bombs in their luggage have been arrested at Schiphol after they arrived on a United Airlines flight from ORD. This should be UA908 which departed Sunday Night, August 29, 2010 and arrived AMS August 30, 2010. UA908 Should be a 777-200. Duration was 7h34m.

Here is the link to the story if you wish to read:

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/30...men-arrested-at-amsterdam-airport/

Apparently they are being charged with "preparation of a terrorist attack" by the Dutch authorities.

I'm assuming that they found these fake bombs in their luggage at customs, though I'm not sure at this point.

UAL

[Edited 2010-08-30 15:51:16]

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User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2911 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 14190 times:

lets not jump to conclusions, for all we know this could all be a big mix up......


short summary of every jewish holiday: they tried to kill us ,we won , lets eat !
User currently onlineFLYjoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14139 times:

I was watching CBS News and they said the bags contained bomb like setups with seven cell phones tied together, another electronic device taped a bottle, watches taped together, and $7k in cash. The interesting thing though is they said the one traveler detained in AMS enroute to Yemen, but his bag was detained in IAD, as he was originally routed via IAD. The reporter questioned why his bag was in IAD and he never touched it. It sounds like he may have been re-routed to ORD, but his bag didn't get moved.

[Edited 2010-08-30 16:08:10]

User currently offlineual747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14083 times:

Quoting alberchico (Reply 1):
lets not jump to conclusions

True, but the fact that they are being charged hints that it might not be.

Edit: It actually looks like the two men are not related but the focus is being put on one man, Ahmed Mohammed Nasser al Soofi. It's claimed that Soofi had 7 cell phones taped to empty bottles in his luggage and watches taped to empty shampoo bottles. He was carrying $7,000 in his luggage as well.

The interesting note, and I'm not sure if the news agencies are screwing this up. But Soofi was originally bound for Yemen via IAD. I'm not sure of his origin, but he ended up changing his flight to Amsterdam and flew through ORD. His bags did not go to AMS but were confiscated in IAD while he flew ORD-AMS.

How is that possible?

Edit (Again): It looks like he originated in Birmingham, AL and flew to Chicago and that these mock devices got passed security at BHM. So this leads me to believe that he did not get rerouted mid journey. Did BHM really drop the ball here and send those bags on a flight to IAD (his original itinerary) when the ticket agent sent him to AMS via ORD?

UAL

[Edited 2010-08-30 16:18:33]

User currently offlinebhmdiversion From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 457 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13951 times:

Good god... This is a total cluster F in my opinion. It seems to me that the passengers were rerouted (maybe ORD-AMS-DXB) but bags were still tagged for ORD-IAD-DXB.

BHM does not have a direct IAD flight as of now. Once I get to work tomorrow, I will see what else I can find out about this.

This is the second incident involving the Middle East countries and BHM in the past 4 years. I think I am getting a headache over this.


User currently offlineual747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13891 times:

Quoting bhmdiversion (Reply 4):
BHM does not have a direct IAD flight as of now.

Well perhaps the PAX was scheduled BHM-ORD-IAD-DXB? But it seems weird because if there was a rerouting, missed connection, or a fault of the airline, the obvious answer would be to get him to FRA, not AMS. There are plenty of options to FRA on UA and LH. AMS makes no sense unless he changed his destination last minute.


I'll wait for your analysis if you are allowed to provide it.

UAL


User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13869 times:

Just posted (and recommended deletion) of a comparable thread. Here's my OP from that one:

Should be interesting to see how this pans out (if it does). Sounds like it could it have been a "dry run." It's too bad they made it through security at ORD but good to hear that U.S. and Dutch authorities are cooperating on such matters (at least one check in the system works). I suppose they couldn't/wouldn't have made the arrest without letting the individuals board the flight. Glad to hear everyone else is alright.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...dam-after-flight-from-chicago.html

777fan



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User currently offlineual747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13799 times:

CNN is now reporting that the guy checked his luggage in at BHM for a flight to ORD. I guess he then collected his luggage and checked it in for a flight ORD-IAD-DXB, but he flew to AMS instead.

So it seems BHM noticed the strange luggage contents, but allowed it to fly, and ORD/UA double failed as they did not detect the items and allowed the bags to fly to IAD without a corresponding passenger. Then the bags were loaded on the flight to DXB, and only then did anyone notice the passenger was missing. This is getting confusing!

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/30...ested-at-amsterdam-airport/?hpt=T2

UAL


User currently offlinebhmdiversion From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 457 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 13536 times:

I was told that the authorities (not saying which ones) were investigating still tonight at BHM.

User currently offlineual747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 13488 times:

Well, the sad part is, if this really was a test, we just showed the other side there are gaping holes in our screening process, security, and ticketing processes. Who is responsible for matching the bags with the aircraft? If it is the airline, United needs to be investigated as well.

It will be interesting to hear what Soofi's background is in the upcoming days.

UAL


User currently offlineDTWLAX From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 788 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 13406 times:

Why AMS again??
AMS seems to get involved somehow everytime.
Is AMS turning out to be a hub of a different kind??


User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 13405 times:

Quoting alberchico (Reply 1):
lets not jump to conclusions, for all we know this could all be a big mix up......


Right, it is probably people who are upset at having a black man as President, tea party members, or people that don't like the health care bill.

I think I heard something like that several months ago when there was a big mix up in Times Square.


User currently onlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4238 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 13373 times:
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Quoting bhmdiversion (Reply 4):
BHM does not have a direct IAD flight as of now

Actually, there is a no-change-of-planes one-stop, but it's WN


User currently offlinewjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5116 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 12910 times:

This thing reeks of "dry run".

Guy checks in at small airport, including bags containing inert containers but active timing/detonating devices (and boxcutters). Ring any bells so far?

Guy raises suspicion because of bulky clothing at checkpoint. Gets a second screening.

Meets another guy at Chicago. Is scheduled to fly to Dubai via IAD, but doesn't get on the IAD flight. Instead gets on flight with other guy, to fly to Amsterdam.

Bags are pulled d/t positive bag match requirement for international flight, but do make it to IAD.

At what point the bags; contents became known and the folks allowed to continue travelling (and why) will be interesting. It may be they wanted to let them complete the dry run to monitor it once it was clear that there was no actual danger from the pax or their contents. Still, if so, still a poor decision as the pax could be dangerous even if unarmed.


User currently offlineacalikk From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12813 times:

Quoting ual747 (Reply 7):
CNN is now reporting that the guy checked his luggage in at BHM for a flight to ORD. I guess he then collected his luggage and checked it in for a flight ORD-IAD-DXB, but he flew to AMS instead.

So it seems BHM noticed the strange luggage contents, but allowed it to fly, and ORD/UA double failed as they did not detect the items and allowed the bags to fly to IAD without a corresponding passenger. Then the bags were loaded on the flight to DXB, and only then did anyone notice the passenger was missing. This is getting confusing!

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/30...ested-at-amsterdam-airport/?hpt=T2

true pax had two separate reservations.. and with PPBM as long as pax boards a flight on international flight the airline can FWD bags and thats what happened at IAD.. i was working a different flight at the time when all this cheaos happened but since pax boarded AMS bound flight from ORD it was ok to load the bag.. However the officials contacted UA and we had to pull it off....
i didn't even think about A.NET i could've gotten more info..now i'm off for the next two...urrrr

Quoting ual747 (Reply 7):
and ORD/UA double failed as they did not detect the items and allowed the bags to fly to IAD without a corresponding passenge

keep in mind TSA is the one that screens all our bags and for domestic flight there's no PPBM anymore... so the bag could follow the routing until the international gateway and we follow the proper PPBM procedure.


User currently offlineCoachClass From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12801 times:

The one guy was going to Yemen. I think that says every thing you need to know. I think the CIA or whoever should have put a tracking device in the suitcase and followed it to where it was finally going and then send a predator to finish the job.

The news is that the authorities now have a current example what's being tried and considered...testing secondary airports-Birmingham, Alabama. Remember, PanAm 103 had explosive baggage checked in at Malta that later went thru FRA and LHR. This may have been a dry run, or, the guy thought that he was transporting a bomb and change his itinerary at the last moment to avoid being blown up.


User currently onlineSchweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 592 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 12671 times:

Quoting wjcandee (Reply 13):
This thing reeks of "dry run" ....

So this dry run "failed" -- insofar as the scheme was accidentally found out. But whoever directed the attempt has gained information, which was the point, I am sure.

Apparently this was detected only due to the pax/bags not being on the same flight. A common enough occurrence.

How many other such test attempts have succeeded? We'll never know.

Quoting bhmdiversion (Reply 8):
I was told that the authorities (not saying which ones) were investigating still tonight at BHM.
Quoting acalikk (Reply 14):
keep in mind TSA is the one that screens all our bags

Yes, evidently nine years after 9/11 it is still possible for terrorists to do their "work" by boarding a flight at a minor spoke airport. Very disappointing.


User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1396 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 12372 times:

Quoting ual747 (Reply 5):
There are plenty of options to FRA on UA and LH. AMS makes no sense unless he changed his destination last minute.

That depends, UA flights to AMS connect to the LH AMS-FRA, correct? And as it all was arranged last-minute chances were the IAD-FRA were full, especially now during European summer holidays, and perhaps in the US as well.

Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 10):
Why AMS again??
AMS seems to get involved somehow everytime.
Is AMS turning out to be a hub of a different kind??

Because it's a large USA-Middle East transfer hub?
Let's turn the question, why again the USA related? All these cheesy things originate in the USA or have them as destination.....Something to think about maybe for the USA and some of their citizens, before blaming other airports/countries.

Quoting CoachClass (Reply 15):
The one guy was going to Yemen. I think that says every thing you need to know.

Don't forget the 99.9% innocent people that travel to Yemen.



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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1846 posts, RR: 42
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 12145 times:
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Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 10):
Why AMS again??
AMS seems to get involved somehow everytime.
Is AMS turning out to be a hub of a different kind??


He was arrested at AMS by request of American authorities, who let him board the plane in the first place. So AMS is only honoring the request and so far it seems that they are not responsible for the screwup.

Martijn



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User currently offlinejpiddink From Netherlands, joined Feb 2009, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11754 times:

Dutch news (nu.nl) reports that both persons were scheduled to fly Chicago - Washington - AMS, but upon arrival in Chicago changed for a direct Chicago - AMS. The bags however continued to/through Washington. Then the cheesy part of the news: when they (whoever 'they' may be) found out, the aircraft with the bags on board was ordered to return to Chicago...

Now, either one decides it's ok to let the bags travel a different itinerary to AMS or it isn't, but deciding it's not ok while the flight is in mid-air sounds like a nono to me.


User currently offlinepetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3353 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 11621 times:

There seems to be some confusion about the flights. According to Spitsnieuws.nl (which is not that reliable to be honest) there where two passengers.

Ahmed Mohamed Nasser al Soofi from Detroit was scheduled to fly from Birmingham Alabama to ORD and onwards to AMS. Don't ask me how, but his bags where supposed to fly from ORD not to AMS but to Dubai and from there to Yemen. It is not quite clear to me where Dulles fits in, it's not mentioned on the Dutch site. Perhaps that was a transfer point for the luggage?

original itinerary
Ahmed Mohamed Nasser al Soofi: BHM - ORD - IAD - (AMS?) - DXB - Yemen
Ahmed Mohamed Nasser al Soofi's lugage: BHM - ORD - IAD - (AMS?) - DXB - Yemen

changed itinerary
Ahmed Mohamed Nasser al Soofi: BHM - ORD - AMS - (DXB - Yemen?)
Ahmed Mohamed Nasser al Soofi's lugage: BHM - ORD - IAD - (AMS?) - DXB - Yemen


No details where released for the second traveller, Hezem al Murisi.

Al Soofi was given a second check at BHM because he was over-dressed. There officials found he carried 7000$ in cash. The officials also found the one cellphone taped to an empty bottle, as well as three loose cellphones and three knives. Because no explosives where found BHM officials let them continue.

In Chicago border police found out that the luggage was routed to Yemen instead of to AMS. That´s when they gave the luggage another safety check.

I also read somewhere, but can´t recall the source, that air marshalls where present on the AMS flight.


edited to add:
At 12:30 CET Schiphol will hold a press conference. That's a little over an hour from now.

Edit 2:
Updated with some more details from NOS.nl, a more reliable source.

[Edited 2010-08-31 02:18:20]


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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13039 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11080 times:

Maybe the TSA agents at BHM were afraid of stopping them because they would look like they were profiling. Let us also not forget that the 9/11 terrorists did a number of 'dry runs' at least as to the persons, some left from a secondary airport (Portland, Maine then BOS). I hope this causes a massive crackdown of securithy all over, with an accent on smaller/secondary airports, to make agents realize that any suspisious luggage must be kept off. The agents and their superiors who were supposed to do their job in BHM should not only be fired, but even tried and sent to jail for their failures to do thier job.

User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1861 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10657 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 11):

I think I heard something like that several months ago when there was a big mix up in Times Square.

Sarcasm is misplaced. Even if this was a real thing, there are routinely mixups and false alarms, that turn out to be absolutely nothing. Seems like a monthly occurrence. So anybody is justified in wanting to wait for the correct details to emerge from a story, especially when the initial reporting is confused and contradictory.

Quoting Schweigend (Reply 16):
But whoever directed the attempt has gained information, which was the point, I am sure.

But the TSA has also gained information. And since our authorities and the TSA (and to be honest, most of our population, it seems) only seem to react against what just happened, instead of thinking about what could happen, well, it can be a learning experience.


User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10278 times:

Quoting tharanga (Reply 23):
well, it can be a learning experience.


Wouldn't you agree that at this juncture traveling with "box cutters" should raise suspicion, enough to be acted upon with acute authority?...Can you give me one good reason why anyone needs to travel with box cutters? The cell phones I can get in a stretch as many people coming to the states purchase lots of items in bulk but in this situation...me thinks I hear, see...a quacking duck.   


User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1861 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10433 times:

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 24):
Wouldn't you agree that at this juncture traveling with "box cutters" should raise suspicion, enough to be acted upon with acute authority?...Can you give me one good reason why anyone needs to travel with box cutters?

per CNN (as of right now, at least), there were box cutters in the checked bags. I don't see a problem with that. You are allowed to have knives and other sharp objects in your checked bags. So no, it should not raise suspicion.

It's the other items allegedly in the checked bags that are of more interest. I wonder what they looked like in the screening machines. Having electronic gadgets wrapped around bottles sounds like an obvious makeshift device, but are the bottles visible as such in the image the screeners see?


25 Post contains links slz396 : In my country Yemen is a tourist destination, visited by those who are looking to go off the beaten track. Not everybody likes to spend his holidays
26 offloaded : Ok, so it was a promotion at Walmart. Buy a bottle of pop and get a free cell phone. He got thirsty, drank the pop, but couldn't get the phones off b
27 soon7x7 : Your response doesn't answer my question though...why does anyone have to travel with box cutters?...especially in this day in age. I'm not saying it
28 contrails : Possibly, but why would anyone attach a cell phone to a bottle of Pepto-Bismol and wrap watches around a bottle of shampoo? That makes me very suspic
29 tharanga : Why do people travel with razors, sewing kit scissors, or swiss army knives? forget sharp objects; why do people travel with anything at all, that yo
30 Post contains images soon7x7 : PC sensitivities perhaps?...the achilles heal of Homeland Security. Until they broach this pediment, I don't see any use for the TSA and the expense
31 dalce : I am SO happy that you are not the president of the USA........ Obviously you would blow up all aircraft heading for Yemen, since according your visi
32 SeeTheWorld : Cool it on the political stuff people ... this is serious s**t ... profiling is not the answer, but either is letting people fly when there are obviou
33 tharanga : If the facts currently circulating are true, then absolutely. Beyond what the screeners saw or didn't see during checked bag screening, there is also
34 SeeTheWorld : I agree, if the facts turn out to basically be true, then a bunch of people are not doing their jobs correctly...
35 Post contains links fxramper : Another rehearsal flight? Nine kicked off TPA flight Confusion? They were testing the water. TSA fail
36 tharanga : Which isn't the least bit surprising to anybody. The TSA does not publish the results of their self-tests, but according to the leaks, the screeners
37 SeeTheWorld : I agree, and if my job was to find ways to make TSA better, I might have some suggestions ... But I'm not the expert .. However, I know that if your
38 spacecadet : It's a slippery slope when you start to ask "why" would anyone want to travel with anything. Pretty soon, nobody can travel with anything. Box cutter
39 CoachClass : Yemen is a country with Al Queda working in it. Remember the USS Cole and other ships were attacked there. You can't paint everybody with a broad bru
40 Post contains links tharanga : Still too early to tell. So much of this story still doesn't make sense, as reports are still contradictory or incomplete. It could have been a dry r
41 Post contains images MadameConcorde : In their luggage: "bulky clothes, a cell phone taped to a Pepto-Bismol bottle, three cell phones taped together, several watches taped together, a bo
42 mtnwest1979 : Well it is all 'circumstantial' evidence lol. Since nothing set off any 'explosive' machines, guess it was all A-OK lol.
43 tharanga : Something was indeed suspected by the luggage screeners. The screeners in BHM are the ones who found it, apparently. They let it go on, as there was
44 fca767 : I hope this is right...I used to remember (Not sure if still) that luggage was opened by TSA all the time at checkin.
45 MadameConcorde : Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was arrested after igniting his underwear on board Northwest Airlines Flight 253 en route from Amsterdam to Detroit... how t
46 Post contains links yeogeo : None of these things in themselves are dangerous in and of themselves and the Departement of Homeland Security is quoted as saying so. Apparently bin
47 fca767 : 3 Cell phones to one recipient?
48 flyingalex : Thank you for that link. Now we know for sure that both passengers were rebooked off their original itineraries by United. I still haven't seen it me
49 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : The Yemen terror warning from about a week or so ago: CIA sees increased threat from al-Qaeda in Yemen- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2010
50 tharanga : I don't know what you're trying to say. 1. There was no explosive here. 2. Amsterdam seems to be here only as a coincidence. Reports so far, for what
51 yeogeo : And why not? Certainly not unusual in a large European or American family! yeo
52 JBirdAV8r : Wonder if the phones were CDMA or GSM. If purchased in America, there's a good chance they'd be CDMA and thus useless in Yemen and most other places.
53 tharanga : Based on what little we know, I would tend to agree that AMS was purely the result of UA customer service reps figuring out some way to get them on t
54 flyingalex : Not exactly. Verizon and Sprint Nextel are CDMA network operators, but both AT&T and T-Mobile USA operate GSM networks, and you can easily buy GS
55 tharanga : Unless they weren't actually exporting phones, but experimenting with phones as bomb triggers. This is the sort of thing I'm sure the investigators w
56 flyingalex : Oh, I totally agree, but so far the trend has been that each bit of new information that has been released strengthens the case that this was a harml
57 bikerthai : As a person who have relatives in the "Third World" I can provide some first hand knowledge on some of the items in questions: Cell phones: Cell phone
58 acalikk : all that was a complete B.S .... first, it happened to be on the same day with the Dubai incident... DXB flight was at C2 AT IAD and TPA was at C-14
59 brilondon : Not really as AMS is a major hub for the mid-east. Unless you have probable cause this is illegal. Plus, if the luggage causes suspicion, why is the
60 JBirdAV8r : I think you missed my point. If they're CDMA phones (doesn't say), then right away you know the whole "gift" story is phony, don't you?
61 Mir : It's interesting how in another thread about TSA searching someone's checkbook in PHL, some argued that the TSA's job is only to prevent dangerous ite
62 flyingalex : Not really. It just tells you that the guy is carrying CDMA phones. Then you still have two possibilities: 1. He didn't know that there are different
63 aztec01 : @SeeTheWorld: " ... profiling is not the answer." How do we know, have we tried it yet?
64 spacecadet : And there's just as good a chance they're GSM - or even CDMA dual mode "world" phones - and thus perfectly useful in Yemen. Two of the "big four" US
65 Post contains links tharanga : Somebody took video of them being taken off the plane. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11134521 Too bad for the people who wanted to jump to co
66 Post contains images bikerthai : Nothing like having relatives fighting over gifts if they are not properly labeled or taped together I brought back an empty glass coke bottle as a s
67 flyingalex : Putting two itineraries end-to-end can sometimes be cheaper if you're flying from somewhere in the boonies, i.e. BHM-ORD-IAD-DXB-SAH could have been
68 tharanga : Yeah, I guess that's true. Even on the same airline. It's the opposite side of the situation where a ticket A-B-C is sometimes cheaper than just a ti
69 bhmdiversion : Ok... sorry I couldnt post at work. Apparently, the TSA screeners were looking at the xrays of the bags and noticed some irregularities with this pass
70 Maverick623 : The airline. Dry runs never fail. Even if you're caught, you've learned something. Air Marshals can do nothing when a bomb is stored in the cargo hol
71 LJ : Dutch media report that both men have been released. Apparantly they couldn't find any evidence of a link to a crime
72 Post contains images tharanga : So much for all the anetters who jump to conclusions, belittle others who think it's wise to wait for the facts to come out, and even advise executin
73 Post contains images oldeuropean : Oh yes, especially people from the kingdom of paranoia, who have their own solutions for imagined threats. Yeah, why don't they nuke the whole Yemen?
74 quiet1 : My two-cent impression is that this was a test run. The US security measures worked pretty much as they should. (A gaping hole in the system is no PPB
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