JBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2281 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7533 times:
Is there a way these aircraft could be listed differently so that the lists don't get so obnoxiously long? Like it's too bad you couldn't format a table with columns into the post.
I'm just trying to think of a way that would make this stuff easier to follow.
I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
comairguycvg From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 308 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7332 times:
There was an easier way...Widgetheads.net. But apparently the site is offline now.
burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7420 posts, RR: 9 Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7256 times:
I don't know what saabs have been done but I saw atleast 10 different ones yesterday in the Delta livery
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brilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 3271 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7239 times:
Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 3): I don't know what saabs have been done but I saw atleast 10 different ones yesterday in the Delta livery
Are the Saabs not being phased out? I was on a DTW-YXU flight last week that only had 7 people on it. Now that is in the summer, the flight has had just me on it last winter once, and before the service turned into CRJ service I was on a Saab with only four people. Funny thing about the Saab flight is that the F/A had to use the intercom to make announcements because of weight distributions yet we all seated in the back two rows.
JBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2281 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7184 times:
Quoting comairguycvg (Reply 2): There was an easier way...Widgetheads.net. But apparently the site is offline now.
Justin, the guy who managed the site, shut it down due to personal circumstances. It was a personal decision and had nothing to do directly with Delta.
Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 3): I don't know what saabs have been done but I saw atleast 10 different ones yesterday in the Delta livery
There are 29 I believe, as they had originally intended on keeping 29 in the fleet.
Quoting brilondon (Reply 4): Are the Saabs not being phased out?
They are. I believe the rate is two per month.
I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6910 posts, RR: 29 Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7115 times:
The Saabs are being phased out. They are being returned to Saab at a rate of about 2 per month.
The initial plan was to reduce the fleet size from 49 to 26 at the end of 2010. DL went ahead and repainted the 26 Saabs that are to remain into 2011. Then, in the past few months DL decided to completely phase out the Saab fleet by the end of 2011, continuing to return them at a rate of 2 per month until they are all gone in December 2011. They are returning them from oldest to newest. Hence why 428-457 are repainted.
Currently there are about 8-9 redtail Saabs still flying in the network. If you see a redtail, it means it is being returned to Saab in the near future.
With the sale of XJ (Mesaba) to 9E (Pinnacle) and the realignment of turboprop and RJ flying with Pinnacle, there have been rumors about Pinnacle expressing an interest at acquiring the Saabs that DL returning. Colgan flying )SF3, Q400) is supposed to transition over to the Mesaba certificate and all CRJ/CR9 flying is going to transition over to the Pinnacle certificate. Pinnacle may be interesting in getting the former XJ Saabs which are the significantly newer, better maintained, have new interiors, and better performance B+ models to replace the older A & B model Saabs in their fleet. Who knows if any would show up again at DL and/or on EAS and/or under some type of at-risk model.
deltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8628 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7088 times:
Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 6):
With the sale of XJ (Mesaba) to 9E (Pinnacle) and the realignment of turboprop and RJ flying with Pinnacle, there have been rumors about Pinnacle expressing an interest at acquiring the Saabs that DL returning. Colgan flying )SF3, Q400) is supposed to transition over to the Mesaba certificate and all CRJ/CR9 flying is going to transition over to the Pinnacle certificate. Pinnacle may be interesting in getting the former XJ Saabs which are the significantly newer, better maintained, have new interiors, and better performance B+ models to replace the older A & B model Saabs in their fleet. Who knows if any would show up again at DL and/or on EAS and/or under some type of at-risk model.
Its no rumor, 9E said in its investor call that it would keep the XJ SF3s to replace the older 9L SAAB fleet.
Who does 9L fly SF3s for now?
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PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6910 posts, RR: 29 Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6908 times:
FYI,
There was some mention the other week that there were no more aircraft wearing the bowling shoe livery, however I did see a 9E CRJ this morning in DTW still in the bowling shoe.
azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3563 posts, RR: 29 Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6684 times:
As mentioned, the saabs are going away. Despite what was said in the investors call, there is NO plan at the moment for Pinnacle Corp. to lease the former XJ saabs from Saab leasing after they've been returned. They said they'd like to explore the opportunity for the old Colgan fleet to be replaced by the former XJ saabs, but again, nothing in stone.
As of Friday, we're up to 15 -200s in new paint with the 16th in the shop. 606 should have just come out with 611 up next. The repainting will be complete by September 22nd. We've also returned a/c 825 to Pinnacle today after flying it for about 175 flights since early August. For tail numbers... it's hard to keep track with the XJ -200s because we never use the N number for anything. We only know them by their internal ship numbers in the 6xx series. That's the biggest clue to a spotter if it's an XJ operated -200 or not.
EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9292 posts, RR: 12 Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6618 times:
azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3563 posts, RR: 29 Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6609 times:
There's only 19 -200s in the XJ fleet. Ships 601-617 and 640, 641. N989CA is your extra one that doesn't belong. N477CA is a/c 641.
As of last Fridays company hotline... 612 and 606 should be on the line in new paint and 611 is next up. That makes 16 total in new paint with the 17th at GLH now (611) - a slight modification to what I said earlier.
I wish I could help more, but I can't find my list from a long time ago that matched the N numbers to our ship numbers.
azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3563 posts, RR: 29 Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6440 times:
Well, I'd say 16 are on the line in new paint with the 17th in GLH now. I would presume 640 and 641 will be painted as well, so 2 more to go. Easily done in about 2.5 weeks.
katwspotter From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 198 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6288 times:
Quoting qfatwa (Reply 16): So effectively consider all except 640/641 to be in new livery. And missing # = 614, 615 to be allocated.
XJ CRJ 611 is still in the NW colors, its been in ATW a few times lately. I can also confirm that 615 is in the new colors. AND just an FYI, 9E a/c 8025 (N825AY) has been flying both 9E and XJ routes. I know that doesnt have anything to do with painting but just an interesting observation I made at work.
A/C I have worked in ATW - SF340 E145 CRJ2/7/9 DC93/4/5 A319 MD80 B738 B752 B753 B763 A333
KingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1587 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6262 times:
Here's the XJ CRJ-200 fleet list. The ship numbers either have the leading 7 or just the 3 digit number starting with 6 depending where it's used.
N601XJ-7601
N602XJ-7602
N840AY-7603
N836AY-7604
N835AY-7605
N834AY-7606
N833AY-7607
N832AY-7608
N831AY-7609
N8976E-7610
N8974C-7611
N8971A-7612
N8965E-7613
N8948B-7614
N8946A-7615
N8944B-7616
N8943A-7617
N487CA-7640
N477CA-7641
azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3563 posts, RR: 29 Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6153 times:
For August and part of September Mesaba flew an entire "line" of flying for Pinnacle on a daily basis. For this we took on another plane for this period of time which was a/c 825 (8025, N825AY). However, the plane entered the fleet and then was flown like any of the other planes in the fleet. I flew it several times on flights that we were covering for Pinnacle and regularly scheduled XJ flights. The same goes for 640 and 641, which were brought into the fleet to give XJ some spare a/c for normal operations and during painting. They too, were integrated into the fleet and flown as non spares. On a regular basis we only have 16 planes in regular service, leaving a plane in heavy check and 2 spares and when we're painting, that leaves 1 spare. The resulting flexibility in the -200 fleet and our ridiculous staffing levels on the plane have given XJ the ability to use the -200 fleet as the "go to" fleet for operational needs. The -200 fleet is so flexible it can fly down-gaged 900 flights, up-gaged Saab flights and be used to cover flying for other DCI carriers.
I guess when the -200 paint line is complete, this will free up the GLH paint facility to allow the other DCI carriers to have their planes painted. With painting complete, XJ can now focus on finishing the 900 cabin grey to blue program and the floor/carpet replacement on the -200s as they go through heavy checks in DTW.
timf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 954 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6102 times:
I am not sure of any registrations, but Pinnacle appears to be putting painting into high gear with 5 CRJ-200s sent to GLH in the past 3 days.
atcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 671 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5929 times:
Freedom ceased operations a couple of weeks ago. So those won't need painting.
If I wanted your opinion, I'd give it to you!
25 KingFriday013: And with all these planes repainted... I have yet to go on one in the new paint! Since last December (when I started taking DCI regularly) I've been o
26 qfatwa: Photo by Jeremy Dando shows Comair N784CA in new livery. Comair CRJ: N408CA N409CA N420CA N427CA N430CA N710CA N713CA N716CA N721CA N739CA N779CA N781
27 qfatwa: MSPSpotters.net confirms these at GLH [the paintbrush is out!]: N813AY N8409N N8672A N8797A and completed between updates: N8587E N8631E N8688C adding
28 KingAir200: XJ's N487CA is now in the new scheme.
29 azjubilee: According to the paint update from Friday, there is one 200 in paint and is the last one bringin the DL painted 200 fleet to 19. This also marks the e
30 qfatwa: MSPSpotters.net [report 7th October] confirms these at GLH [the paintbrush is out!]: N800AY N805AY N8458A N8886A N8896A and completed between updates:
31 timf: Of the Pinnacle CRJs, there are 4 aircraft in bowling shoe colors that still do not appear on the repainted list: N8533D N8560F N8665A N8721B Is it tr
32 Acey559: I've asked before, and I don't believe I ever got an answer, but does anyone know when the EV CR7s will be painted?! The vast majority that come in lo
33 AV8AJET: We are wondering the same thing! We are being told that the first -700's to be painted are the ex-Horizon Air planes which have no real paintjob just
34 Acey559: Well let's hope they can get them done quickly! I saw a few Horizon birds when I was at ATL last week and the week before. I bet some not-so-frequent
35 qfatwa: Thanks timf - great observation - I had only N8533D in my list as bowling shoe - and just checked the photographs of each - all still in bowling shoe
36 SESGDL: I live in MSP and can't recall the last time I've seen an aircraft in the bowling shoe. N8533D must be the only aircraft in the bowling shoe livery,
37 durangomac: SkyWest has restarted actively repainting aircraft. They are repainting more than just DLC aircraft but according to the paint schedule most of the ai
38 qfatwa: Photo by Randall Johnson shows Comair N659BR in new livery. A Scott Kerhaert photo shows Comar N932CA in new livery A Jordan Duncan photo shows Comair
39 qfatwa: MSPSpotters.net [report 14th October] confirms these at GLH : N8412F N8894A N8903A N8905F N8907A and as noted by timf - the 4 bowling shoes have been
40 C767P: A photo by Erik Jensen shows N819CA and N940CA are in the new livery. A photos show that N812CA and N967CA are in the new livery.
42 MSPNWA: N629CZ left GLH tonight. N627CZ is still there getting finishing touches. The next one to turn blue isn't there yet, so we won't have another complet
43 qfatwa: MSPSpotters.net [report 23rd October] confirms these at GLH : N8543F N8908D N8913A N8914A N8918B and as noted by timf - the 4 bowling shoes have been
44 757dab: I flew on N8580A, Feb 3, 2010 and it was in bowling shoe colors
45 timf: N8580A has already been repainted in DL colors according to MSPspotters.
46 KingAir200: 8533 has been painted in the DL scheme.
47 qfatwa: Thanks for N8580A [missed in the list] and N8533D - one less of the bowling shoe 4!! Thus adding to this completed list: Pinnacle CRJ: N800AY N801AY N
48 PSU.DTW.SCE: I flew on N624CZ and it was the first Compass a/c that I've been on to have the blue interiors. It had the new blue seat covers and blue carpet.
49 KingAir200: Do you know what the progress on the XJ CR9s is? I was on 912 the other day and it had been "blued." No wood floors in the lavs though.
50 PSU.DTW.SCE: No, I haven't been on any CR9s in the past few weeks. I'm one a Compass E-175 at least once a week now though and today was the first. I didn't go to
51 qfatwa: MSPSpotters.net [report 4th November] confirms these at GLH : N812AY N8921B N8928A N8936A N8942A N8970D and completed between updates: N8924B N8932C T
52 docchaos: I can verify that Mesaba ship 641 - N477CA has been repainted. I was working that aircraft earlier this week. When it was inbound, I was waiting to se
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