FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6539 posts, RR: 11 Posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3335 times:
Hello all. In my current position, I'm usually on most regional websites checking out new openings as my current internship will be over in just a few months. Stumbled across a huge open house Pinnacle will be having at CVG. Did I miss something? I know they have been doing a lot of flying Delta across the system but it seems to me they are opening up a base. Am I way off? Is it possible that Comair's fate is to be decided sooner than I thought?
They are currently looking for:
•Maintenance Planner Routers
•Heavy Check Representatives
FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6539 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3118 times:
Well, maybe there is more to this mass hiring my Pinnacle than I actually thought. I truly feel bad for everyone involved. Above and below wings is already RAS so that would explain why they aren't hiring from ground handlers.
Boy oh boy, stay tuned.
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apodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3651 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2872 times:
Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 2): There are strong rumors going around about a BIG announcement involving the fate of Comair on Wednesday morning (9/1)
If its true, then the consolodation of the regionals continue. This, combined with UA pilots trying for tougher scope, leads to a dim future for the regionals. My prediction is that Mesa will be gobbled up, ZW will go bye bye as soon as the US contract is up, This will leave only four players at the regional level, SkyWest, Pinnacle, Trans States, and Republic.
Tougher scope combined with F9 will make it tough for RAH to stay afloat as a regional carrier. And it will also make it tough for Trans States to find a home for the MRJ's. With fewer players at the regional level and a workforce that gets older, it will make it tough for the majors to play the regionals off of each other, and the cost for flying will either go up, or be flown at a loss.
deltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8628 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2817 times:
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 3): Well, maybe there is more to this mass hiring my Pinnacle than I actually thought. I truly feel bad for everyone involved. Above and below wings is already RAS so that would explain why they aren't hiring from ground handlers.
CVG is mainline only just like ATL. All the RHS folks got dumped a few months ago.
"Oh look at the sUGAr falling out of the sky! Look at the sUGAr falling out of the sky!" LM 1922-2011 Go Dawgs! G.A.T.A.
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 7):
Wasn't aware of that though. Still shows on their "stations map". I'm guessing most of the Comair/RHS folks just transitioned to DL like they did with a lot of the ASA folks back in '06/'07.
norcal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2383 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2527 times:
Quoting apodino (Reply 4): This will leave only four players at the regional level, SkyWest, Pinnacle, Trans States, and Republic.
Trans States and Pinnacle will still be pretty small players despite DL selling Compass and Mesaba to them. Skywest Inc. is going to be a 700 airframe company with 7000 pilots, none of the others come close to touching that, especially TSH and Pinnacle.
As I said above OH is about to take it in the teeth again. From a pilot froum:
September 1, 2010
TO: Comair Team
FROM: President John Bendoraitis
RE: Ongoing Transformation of Comair
In our business, the only thing we can count on for sure is change; this year has been no exception. Through the
first eight months of the year, we have seen significant change across the airline industry, with consolidation
occurring at the mainline and regional level, including the sale of Compass and Mesaba to Trans States and
Pinnacle, respectively, the purchase of ExpressJet by SkyWest and the bankruptcy filing of Mesa.
Comair has not been involved in these transactions, leading some of you to ask about our future. Absent any action
on our part to change our current direction, our future will remain in question. We have been in that undesirable
position too long, and it’s time to dramatically change course.
Our need to change is significant, and the scope of change will be difficult but necessary. Our current cost structure
− which remains approximately 20 percent higher than our peers on a cost-per-block-hour basis − does not enable
us to be competitive in the current industry environment. To secure our future, we need to demonstrate our ability
to operate as a standalone entity. We must be able to earn a profit while reducing our operating costs to what the
market is willing to pay for our services.
In the coming months, we will focus on addressing our main challenges − our aging fleet, high overhead costs and
uncompetitive crew costs − by transforming Comair in three key areas:
Retaining our important CRJ-700 and CRJ-900 fleets while accelerating the reduction of our aging, less
efficient 50-seat fleet, in keeping with Delta’s plans for its regional operations. Reductions will be timed to
avoid upcoming costly maintenance events and engine overhauls on aircraft leaving the fleet, resulting in a
savings of approximately $110 million over the next four years;
Aligning staffing levels − including our leadership structure − with what is needed to support a smaller
Working with our unions to secure long-term competitive agreements.
For some time, Delta leaders have been open about their desire to reduce the Delta network’s use of the Delta
Connection 50-seat fleet, made up of older, less-efficient aircraft. Comair’s 50-seat fleet reductions will be
staggered over 2011 and 2012, as determined by a combination of lease return deadlines and upcoming
As we know from experience, the number of aircraft in our fleet fluctuates based on market demand, scheduling
decisions made by our mainline partner and other factors. While these factors make it difficult to predict exact
numbers, here is what we know at this time: By the end of this year, as planned, we will have 65 50-seat aircraft in
our fleet. Starting in January of next year, we will reduce our 50-seat fleet by 49 aircraft to a total of 16 airplanes:
We will retire 19 by the end of 2011 and 30 in 2012. We will retain our CRJ-700s (15) and 900s (13), and by the
end of 2012, expect to operate a fleet of 44 aircraft.
With such a significant change in fleet size, we must also re-align our staffing over the next two years to support
the new, smaller size of the airline. All departments and areas will be impacted, with the number of reductions
varying by department. By the end of 2012, staffing will be commensurate with what is needed to run a 44-aircraft
Timing will vary by department. In operational areas (for crew and Maintenance team members, for example) and
in some support areas, the timing and number of reductions will be closely tied to the reduction of the fleet. Based
on what we know today, we expect the first round of crew furloughs to occur in the second quarter of 2011. At the
same time, we will continue to evaluate our crew and Maintenance bases and anticipate the need to make changes
to ensure we are best aligned to support the operation. Comair leaders are committed to providing team members
timely information to make informed decisions regarding their careers, and as decisions are made, we will
communicate that information.
In other administrative areas, we expect staffing reductions to occur over the next four to 16 months. Notifications
in some departments will begin as soon as this month with some employees leaving the organization by the end of
the year. Other positions will be retained over a longer period of time. Department leaders continue to work through
the staffing specifics in their areas and will be meeting face-to-face with employees wherever possible to share
We have continued to downsize our officer and director ranks over the past two years. As with all staffing, we will
continue to adjust these groups to ensure we have the right people in the best positions to lead the company given
our current direction. Some of these changes have already been communicated, and we will share additional
information as decisions are made.
Comair is committed to easing the transition for employees leaving the company. Employees who are furloughed
will follow the terms of their collective bargaining agreements, which include provisions that provide for these
situations. In addition, Comair leaders will be meeting with union leaders in the coming days to explore their
interest in offering voluntary exit packages for contract employees, and we will communicate additional details as
decisions are made. For merit employees, we will offer severance packages that include financial and career
assistance. We will offer voluntary exit packages for scale employees.
Competitive Union Agreements
In the coming weeks, we will also begin negotiations with all three of our unions: the Air Line Pilots Association
(ALPA), International Association of Machinists (IAM) and International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT).
Securing new, competitive agreements with these groups is critical to our success, and I look forward to sitting
down with our union leaders to reach common ground.
Beyond the significant changes outlined above, we will continue exploring every opportunity to decrease costs,
including options for moving out of our headquarters building, which was designed for a much larger workforce
than what we have today. We will remain headquartered in Northern Kentucky but will be evaluating more
appropriately sized office facilities near the airport.
The result of these changes is that, over the next two years, Comair will become a much more cost-competitive and
smaller company, both in terms of our fleet and the staff necessary to support that fleet. The changes we are
undertaking are based on economics and are not a reflection on the people of Comair and the good work we have
done and continue to do. Instead, the need to reduce our aging 50-seat aircraft is more indicative of what is
happening in the regional industry as a whole, with a move toward newer, larger-gauge aircraft. And while it may
seem premature to talk about changes that will occur in 2011 and 2012, you have proven that you are a tremendous
group of professionals capable of handling the challenges ahead of us, and you deserve information that may
potentially impact your career.
Many current employees have seen reductions in previous years, and while these are not pleasant or easy decisions
to make, they are necessary to keep us viable. The Comair team has consistently demonstrated our ability to run a
safe airline and deliver a great product while providing excellent customer service and operational reliability. Even
with these latest developments, we must remain focused on these key areas.
The other Comair leaders and I will host our next series of town hall meetings the week of September 13, and I look
forward to meeting with many of you face-to-face and talking about the upcoming changes and the important work
ahead of us.