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CO Finally Takes Delivery Of 737s Parked At BFI  
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16859 posts, RR: 51
Posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10395 times:

CO has had several brand new 737s parked at BFI for months due to an issue with their former seat manufacturer, the issue has finally been resolved (new seat manufacturer?) and they have all been delivered within the last month;

August 16th;

#519
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...0/history/20100816/1800Z/KBFI/KMCO
#520
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...1/history/20100816/1810Z/KBFI/KMCO
#521
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...2/history/20100816/1820Z/KBFI/KMCO

August 20th;

#522
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...0/history/20100820/1900Z/KBFI/KMCO

August 25th;

#523;
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...2/history/20100825/1730Z/KBFI/KMCO
#524
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...1/history/20100825/1745Z/KBFI/KMCO

August 26th;

#525

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...0/history/20100826/1650Z/KBFI/KLAX

September 1st;
#526

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...0/history/20100901/1730Z/KBFI/KMCO

September 3rd;

#527
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...1/history/20100903/1745Z/KBFI/KMCO

Note that aircraft #528 will be the first delivered with the new Boeing Sky interior.


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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6486 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10321 times:

Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):
new seat manufacturer?

Yes, CO has switched from Koito to B/E Aerospace.



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User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9772 times:

Nice I hope someday I'll fly on CO routes in the states in their new B737s. Last year I flew on their older model.

User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3066 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9620 times:
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Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):
#520
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C.../KMCO

I flew on #520 yesterday....Unfortunately the aircraft is without Direct TV....



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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2406 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9564 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 1):
Yes, CO has switched from Koito to B/E Aerospace.

I think Weber 5751 seats are installed on the new 737s. B/E Aerospace Spectrum definitely on the 757-200s and most of the 777s.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5771 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9267 times:

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 4):
I think Weber 5751 seats are installed on the new 737s. B/E Aerospace Spectrum definitely on the 757-200s and most of the 777s.

It's very easy to tell- the Webers have articulating bottom cushions; when you recline, your butt scoots forward.
The B/E's don't.

The 737-9ER's, as near as I can tell, have the B/E Spectrum. Seems to me like they'd continue with this mode.


User currently offlinelaxboeingman From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 543 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8988 times:

Why were they put into service through MCO and not EWR or IAH? This is good for CO but what impact will it have in the merger, will the UA A320s be retired or will these be part of the new carrier like all of the other e/q? Why does CO need these though, I have noticed that some routes that used to be served with
737-800s are now being served with the 757-300. Also, are they -800s, -900s, -700s, or other?

Thank you in advance for all answers.

laxboeingman



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8692 times:

Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):

I don't think the seat issue has been rectified but just a temporary fix. I recieved a memo like 2 or 3 weeks ago about 738 differences that we will be seeing shortly. These will not get DIRECTV until the fix is compete which they estimated around 2012.



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User currently offlineBoeing12345 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8568 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 7):
I don't think the seat issue has been rectified but just a temporary fix. I recieved a memo like 2 or 3 weeks ago about 738 differences that we will be seeing shortly. These will not get DIRECTV until the fix is compete which they estimated around 2012.

You are correct, the seats installed right now are B/E and yes it is only temporary.


User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3662 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8318 times:

Quoting Boeing12345 (Reply 8):

You are correct, the seats installed right now are B/E and yes it is only temporary.

So are the going to get outfitted with DirecTV or do these 738s have the drop down screens?



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User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6124 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8302 times:

So the mini-hub at RNT is finally gone! Boeing is probably just glad they have the space back.


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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1980 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8044 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 9):
So are the going to get outfitted with DirecTV or do these 738s have the drop down screens?

They will eventually get the DirecTV mod but not until the seats get replaced (2011?). These planes will not have IFE until then.
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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7749 times:

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 11):

They will eventually get the DirecTV mod but not until the seats get replaced (2011?).

CO management had said 2012. I don't know why so far away; not many details were given but that's what the memo I read said.



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User currently offlineWashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7319 times:

Any thoughts on what standard seat United/Continental will choose for their narrowbody fleet? Lots of interesting decisions ahead!

Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):
Note that aircraft #528 will be the first delivered with the new Boeing Sky interior.

What does this entail?


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7265 times:

Quoting Washingtonian (Reply 13):
What does this entail?
http://www.boeing.com/Features/2010/07/bca_sky_interior_07_26_10.html



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User currently offlineOceanic From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 134 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6082 times:

Quoting laxboeingman (Reply 6):
Why were they put into service through MCO and not EWR or IAH?

All of CO's new 737s come through MCO for DirecTV installation over at the LiveTV hangar and/or CO hangar, as well as various other outfitting prior to entering service.

[Edited 2010-09-04 21:07:07]

User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2191 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5990 times:

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 11):
These planes will not have IFE until then.

If so I guess these will be like the 739


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6486 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5885 times:

And why wouldn't it be possible to install LiveTV in the B/E Aerospace Spectrum seatbacks?


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User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1555 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5524 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 17):
And why wouldn't it be possible to install LiveTV in the B/E Aerospace Spectrum seatbacks?

I'm sure it's possible... but if they're just going to rip those seats out within the next year or two and replace them with a different model, why pay to have the screens installed twice?



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User currently onlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5935 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5490 times:

Quoting Antoniemey (Reply 18):
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 17):
And why wouldn't it be possible to install LiveTV in the B/E Aerospace Spectrum seatbacks?

I'm sure it's possible... but if they're just going to rip those seats out within the next year or two and replace them with a different model, why pay to have the screens installed twice?

I wonder if they are holding off installing IFE until they decide what brand of seat and IFE system they want to use across the entire UA/CO fleet.



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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2406 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5195 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 17):
And why wouldn't it be possible to install LiveTV in the B/E Aerospace Spectrum seatbacks?

I am almost positive (coming from a reliable source at CO) that the seats installed on the handful of delayed 737-800s (not -900ER, they are B/E) is the Weber 5751 model. Originally, these were supposed to be Koito, but new seats had to be sourced at the last minute due to the well-publicized issues with that company, and the Weber models were the most readily available.

I haven't heard anything about LiveTV mods being held off for these ships, but it wouldn't shock me if they were waiting for new seats.

For the record, the B/E Spectrum seat on the 737-900ER has LiveTV already installed.


User currently offlineLASoctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5046 times:

I was there at BFI in the beginning of August and I saw those there. I got a few (not so great) pictures of them, or at least one. But I was wondering why Boeing still hadn't delivered them to CO..


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User currently offlineSchweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 609 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4814 times:

The new CO 738s I've seen around IAH -- I assume they are the ones that were held in limbo at BFI -- do not have the LiveTV saucer on their upper fuselages.

They will remain, according to what I've been told in speculation, sans anything but old-school IFE, until replacement seats are installed, or, the combined UA/CO decides what to do about narrowbody cabins.

So, in a way, these birds remain in limbo.

Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):
Note that aircraft #528 will be the first delivered with the new Boeing Sky interior.

Wowie-zowie. I'll look for that tail.


User currently offlineatcsundevil From Germany, joined Mar 2010, 1197 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4561 times:

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 16):
Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 11):
These planes will not have IFE until then.

If so I guess these will be like the 739

No, all B737-900s and -900ERs have IFE.



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User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4008 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4542 times:
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Quoting hummingbird (Reply 3):

I flew on #520 yesterday....Unfortunately the aircraft is without Direct TV....

Isn't this why they go to MCO for the IFE installation?

Quoting Schweigend (Reply 22):

They will remain, according to what I've been told in speculation, sans anything but old-school IFE, until replacement seats are installed, or, the combined UA/CO decides what to do about narrowbody cabins.

How long will it be before we here on what UA-CO will do about IFE-AVOD on their narrowbody fleet? I feel we'll see them finish installing the online 73Gs with AVOD as well as the 753s and then make the swap on the a/c delivered with different seats so they could finally take delivery. I do feel we'll see AVOD installed on all UA 757s as well as A319/A320s to make the fleet consistant similar to what DL is doing.

When will we be seeing some new 739ERs brought online?


25 fun2fly : UA 757's are a bit tired. I'd guess the first question would be to order 739ER's or wait until 737/320NG. Second question will be if newUA wants to c
26 Washingtonian : Interesting about the new Sky Interior. How many Continental 737s will have this?
27 STT757 : All new deliveries of 737s to CO beginning with aircraft #528 will have the new interiors, CO has 32 firm orders for 737s remaining.
28 Washingtonian : When CO's older 737s go in for heavy MX checks, could they be installed then?
29 STT757 : Too expensive, only new deliveries will feature the new interiors.
30 CODC10 : I don't think the Boeing Sky interior is even available as a retrofit option, at least at this time.
31 73g : Just about all of CO's 737 deliveries come through MCO for induction into the active fleet. MCO is where the winglets are installed as well as various
32 adxmatt : The new A/C seats are on loan from Boeing. That is why they don't want to add the Live TV since the seats will be returned. From what I heard the new
33 dutchflyboi : According to the DNU from Aug 26th: CO takes delivery of its 200th 737NG CO took delivery Thursday of its ninth new Boeing 737-800 this month – incl
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