STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16256 posts, RR: 52 Posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 9188 times:
CO has had several brand new 737s parked at BFI for months due to an issue with their former seat manufacturer, the issue has finally been resolved (new seat manufacturer?) and they have all been delivered within the last month;
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5757 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 9114 times:
CODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2167 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8357 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 1): Yes, CO has switched from Koito to B/E Aerospace.
I think Weber 5751 seats are installed on the new 737s. B/E Aerospace Spectrum definitely on the 757-200s and most of the 777s.
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5338 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8060 times:
Quoting CODC10 (Reply 4): I think Weber 5751 seats are installed on the new 737s. B/E Aerospace Spectrum definitely on the 757-200s and most of the 777s.
It's very easy to tell- the Webers have articulating bottom cushions; when you recline, your butt scoots forward.
The B/E's don't.
The 737-9ER's, as near as I can tell, have the B/E Spectrum. Seems to me like they'd continue with this mode.
laxboeingman From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 383 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7781 times:
Why were they put into service through MCO and not EWR or IAH? This is good for CO but what impact will it have in the merger, will the UA A320s be retired or will these be part of the new carrier like all of the other e/q? Why does CO need these though, I have noticed that some routes that used to be served with
737-800s are now being served with the 757-300. Also, are they -800s, -900s, -700s, or other?
FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6517 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7485 times:
I don't think the seat issue has been rectified but just a temporary fix. I recieved a memo like 2 or 3 weeks ago about 738 differences that we will be seeing shortly. These will not get DIRECTV until the fix is compete which they estimated around 2012.
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Boeing12345 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 108 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7361 times:
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 7): I don't think the seat issue has been rectified but just a temporary fix. I recieved a memo like 2 or 3 weeks ago about 738 differences that we will be seeing shortly. These will not get DIRECTV until the fix is compete which they estimated around 2012.
You are correct, the seats installed right now are B/E and yes it is only temporary.
aznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3541 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7111 times:
Quoting Boeing12345 (Reply 8):
You are correct, the seats installed right now are B/E and yes it is only temporary.
So are the going to get outfitted with DirecTV or do these 738s have the drop down screens?
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as739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5820 posts, RR: 23 Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7095 times:
So the mini-hub at RNT is finally gone! Boeing is probably just glad they have the space back.
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A340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1973 posts, RR: 26 Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6837 times:
Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 9): So are the going to get outfitted with DirecTV or do these 738s have the drop down screens?
They will eventually get the DirecTV mod but not until the seats get replaced (2011?). These planes will not have IFE until then.
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FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6517 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6542 times:
Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 11):
They will eventually get the DirecTV mod but not until the seats get replaced (2011?).
CO management had said 2012. I don't know why so far away; not many details were given but that's what the memo I read said.
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FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6517 posts, RR: 11 Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6058 times:
Oceanic From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 129 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4875 times:
Quoting laxboeingman (Reply 6): Why were they put into service through MCO and not EWR or IAH?
All of CO's new 737s come through MCO for DirecTV installation over at the LiveTV hangar and/or CO hangar, as well as various other outfitting prior to entering service.
akelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2101 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4783 times:
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5757 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4678 times:
And why wouldn't it be possible to install LiveTV in the B/E Aerospace Spectrum seatbacks?
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Antoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1504 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4317 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 17): And why wouldn't it be possible to install LiveTV in the B/E Aerospace Spectrum seatbacks?
I'm sure it's possible... but if they're just going to rip those seats out within the next year or two and replace them with a different model, why pay to have the screens installed twice?
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United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4283 times:
Quoting Antoniemey (Reply 18): Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 17):
And why wouldn't it be possible to install LiveTV in the B/E Aerospace Spectrum seatbacks?
I'm sure it's possible... but if they're just going to rip those seats out within the next year or two and replace them with a different model, why pay to have the screens installed twice?
I wonder if they are holding off installing IFE until they decide what brand of seat and IFE system they want to use across the entire UA/CO fleet.
CODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2167 posts, RR: 8 Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3988 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 17): And why wouldn't it be possible to install LiveTV in the B/E Aerospace Spectrum seatbacks?
I am almost positive (coming from a reliable source at CO) that the seats installed on the handful of delayed 737-800s (not -900ER, they are B/E) is the Weber 5751 model. Originally, these were supposed to be Koito, but new seats had to be sourced at the last minute due to the well-publicized issues with that company, and the Weber models were the most readily available.
I haven't heard anything about LiveTV mods being held off for these ships, but it wouldn't shock me if they were waiting for new seats.
For the record, the B/E Spectrum seat on the 737-900ER has LiveTV already installed.
LASoctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3839 times:
I was there at BFI in the beginning of August and I saw those there. I got a few (not so great) pictures of them, or at least one. But I was wondering why Boeing still hadn't delivered them to CO..
Schweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 494 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3607 times:
The new CO 738s I've seen around IAH -- I assume they are the ones that were held in limbo at BFI -- do not have the LiveTV saucer on their upper fuselages.
They will remain, according to what I've been told in speculation, sans anything but old-school IFE, until replacement seats are installed, or, the combined UA/CO decides what to do about narrowbody cabins.
So, in a way, these birds remain in limbo.
Quoting STT757 (Thread starter): Note that aircraft #528 will be the first delivered with the new Boeing Sky interior.
atcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 666 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3354 times:
Quoting akelley728 (Reply 16): Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 11):
These planes will not have IFE until then.
laca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3749 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3335 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 3):
I flew on #520 yesterday....Unfortunately the aircraft is without Direct TV....
Isn't this why they go to MCO for the IFE installation?
Quoting Schweigend (Reply 22):
They will remain, according to what I've been told in speculation, sans anything but old-school IFE, until replacement seats are installed, or, the combined UA/CO decides what to do about narrowbody cabins.
How long will it be before we here on what UA-CO will do about IFE-AVOD on their narrowbody fleet? I feel we'll see them finish installing the online 73Gs with AVOD as well as the 753s and then make the swap on the a/c delivered with different seats so they could finally take delivery. I do feel we'll see AVOD installed on all UA 757s as well as A319/A320s to make the fleet consistant similar to what DL is doing.
When will we be seeing some new 739ERs brought online?
25 fun2fly: UA 757's are a bit tired. I'd guess the first question would be to order 739ER's or wait until 737/320NG. Second question will be if newUA wants to c
26 Washingtonian: Interesting about the new Sky Interior. How many Continental 737s will have this?
27 STT757: All new deliveries of 737s to CO beginning with aircraft #528 will have the new interiors, CO has 32 firm orders for 737s remaining.
28 Washingtonian: When CO's older 737s go in for heavy MX checks, could they be installed then?
29 STT757: Too expensive, only new deliveries will feature the new interiors.
30 CODC10: I don't think the Boeing Sky interior is even available as a retrofit option, at least at this time.
31 73g: Just about all of CO's 737 deliveries come through MCO for induction into the active fleet. MCO is where the winglets are installed as well as various
32 adxmatt: The new A/C seats are on loan from Boeing. That is why they don't want to add the Live TV since the seats will be returned. From what I heard the new
33 dutchflyboi: According to the DNU from Aug 26th: CO takes delivery of its 200th 737NG CO took delivery Thursday of its ninth new Boeing 737-800 this month – incl
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