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UA(X) Announces ASE-IAH  
User currently offlineADent From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1390 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7090 times:

United Express is beginning service from Aspen to Houston on 04JAN2011 and it is scheduled to run thru 02APR2011.

The article says Skywest will be using CRJ-700s.

Source: http://www.aspendailynews.com/section/home/142323 .

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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7071 times:

Wow! Good job UA  

I wonder if this will be weight restricted out of ASE??



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25786 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 6995 times:

Its being loaded this weekend.

UA6203 IAH-ASE 0918-1108 CR7
UA7037 ASE-IAH 1435-1805 CR7



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 6925 times:

And route intigration begins  

Good on UA/CO.



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User currently offlineThePinnacleKid From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 725 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6751 times:

And this is how you get around Continental's pilot scope... Way to go UA/CO mgmt... you know it'll be a CO codeshare flight... conveniently out of CO's hub... to a ski market.. where the 145 and mainline can't go....


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User currently offlinePackcheer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6697 times:

Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 4):
to a ski market.. where the 145 and mainline can't go....

I am not familiar with CO's scope clause. How do these facts/aircraft/location get around the scope clause? (I understand this is a UAX flight, I guess my question would more appropriately be why doesn't CO fly this already?)



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User currently offlineCO777ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6674 times:

Quoting Packcheer (Reply 5):
I guess my question would more appropriately be why doesn't CO fly this already?)

Possibly b/c they don't have the appropriate equipment


User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6161 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6628 times:

Quoting Packcheer (Reply 5):

Scope clause with CO pilots I believe is no regional jets over 50 seats.

Quoting CO777ER (Reply 6):

The scope clause being the reason there are is no equipment of that size though.



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User currently offlinePackcheer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6578 times:

basically why CO's express carriers don't have either the CRJ-700 or -900?


interesting...



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User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5193 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6567 times:

Quoting Packcheer (Reply 8):
basically why CO's express carriers don't have either the CRJ-700 or -900?

Or probably more accurately and appropriately...E170/175/190s.



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6484 times:

Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 4):


I would expect more of this after September as well until they can sort out the contract.



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User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5193 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6335 times:

Hopefully something larger goes on iah bna as that's a route I frequent. I'm also anxious for the first signs of up gauging into iah.


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User currently offlineus330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3873 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 6022 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 1):
I wonder if this will be weight restricted out of ASE??

If they don't weight restrict the CR7s to LAX, SFO, or ORD, then they shouldn't have a problem going to IAH.


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 6009 times:

Quoting us330 (Reply 12):
If they don't weight restrict the CR7s to LAX, SFO, or ORD, then they shouldn't have a problem going to IAH.

Thanks  



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User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6161 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5955 times:

Quoting us330 (Reply 12):

Correct. I have worked SFO-ASE multiple times from operations and have yet to weight restrict the flight.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12256 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5937 times:
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What would be nice is if DL would restart MSP-ASE service on the CR7. Years ago, it was done on the Avro by Mesaba and it was usually pretty full


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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7507 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5910 times:

Sounds like a great route for them. Lots of money in Houston.Lots of money in Aspen.


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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2731 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5897 times:

Brilliant route! Since UA is almost entirely hub ana spoke operations with only a handful of point to point routes, I am guessing that this is the first new route by either airline that is a direct result of the merger. They should print money on this route!

User currently offlinedsuairptman From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 903 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4302 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 11):


Speaking of which was it ever decided if the Q400s would start ops out of IAH for COCONX?



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User currently offlineWeb From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

What is the operational range limit of a CR7 out of ASE? With this new route (IAH-ASE), one would think that EWR might also come along, but is that too far? If so, could it be weight restricted enough to make it operationally and economically feasible?


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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6073 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3737 times:

Quoting Web (Reply 19):
What is the operational range limit of a CR7 out of ASE? With this new route (IAH-ASE), one would think that EWR might also come along, but is that too far?

IAH would be fine. The longest flight was to ATL. As for EWR, it's possible (barely; ) however, given the conditions that ASE sees in the winter, it would not be a good idea to attempt a EWR flight. EGE, though, might work, but that can be done with an A319/20 or 757.

[Edited 2010-09-06 10:01:45]


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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3214 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3732 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 1):
I wonder if this will be weight restricted out of ASE??

Definitely.

Quoting us330 (Reply 12):
If they don't weight restrict the CR7s to LAX, SFO, or ORD, then they shouldn't have a problem going to IAH.

We do, on a regular basis. Either that or fuel-stop enroute. Even ASE-DEN will weight restrict on a bad day and that's barely north of 100 miles.

Quoting Web (Reply 19):
one would think that EWR might also come along, but is that too far?

EWR would be a bridge too far for a regional jet out of ASE, much less DEN.

Quoting Web (Reply 19):
If so, could it be weight restricted enough to make it operationally and economically feasible?

You'd probably be lucky to take 12-15 on a regular basis on a 70-seater. When ASE-ATL ran, it took something in the ballpark of 30 to 35. Not only is EWR further, NYC is notorious for flow control, long holding, and long diverts. All of these are only exponentially worse on your weight restrictions when flying as far as ASE.


User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3683 times:

Have UA/UAeX/CO/COeX come to any sort of agreement yet on their respective (and hopefully soon, mutual) scope clauses?

User currently onlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7554 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3605 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 15):
What would be nice is if DL would restart MSP-ASE service on the CR7. Years ago, it was done on the Avro by Mesaba and it was usually pretty full

Ah, and don't forget to MEM as well.



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User currently offlinepanam330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2687 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3508 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 20):
EWR flight. EGE, though, might work, but that can be done with an A319/20 or 757.

EGE-EWR is already operated by a 73G during ski season.


25 CIDflyer : interesting about this "cross regional fleeting" they are doing out of IAH. Wondering if they will do more as time goes by before CO/UA are completely
26 Post contains images bjorn14 : Aren't they sitting on the ground for 3 hours? Are they 2 crewing this? Because if they aren't then they come dangerously close to the crew timing ou
27 Goldenshield : Not likely. The routing would most likely be IAH-ASE-DEN-XXX, and flipped on the reverse leg flown by a different crew, with a different plane.
28 LAXintl : Dangerously close? No hardly. Two man domestic crews can be on duty for 16-hours, with 8 max hours total flight time per FARs. As far as the specific
29 30west : Its only a way around the scope if a new contract is signed by the UAL and CAL pilots allowing it. I think its quite a gamble at this point in the ne
30 Post contains images LAXintl : Since when is United not allowed to operate a ASE-XXX flight? It has zero to do with any CO CBA agreement. If you wish to dig out the CO CBA, then ab
31 KaiGywer : But isn't that because of max landing weight? Just because it IS so short. I remember something about that during my OO differences training...I thin
32 30west : Of course United can operate the flight but If the CAL contract with its pilots is not changed by Jan, then when this flight is operated only United
33 LAXintl : There will be no more CAL to worry about soon. Once the shareholders vote next week, and DOT grants approval shortly afterwards, all the money goes i
34 TOMMY767 : Those 2 class CR7s and E175s will be useful in premium heavy markets from IAH. I also see EWR getting quite a few of them as well. Wonder where the o
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