LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22219 posts, RR: 51 Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 12512 times:
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SFOA380 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 104 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10008 times:
1) JFK
2) LAX
3) ORD
4) IAD
5) EWR
6) SFO
7) BOS
8) MIA
9) MCO
10) IAH
Atlanta doesn't even make the top ten when you add together Heathrow AND Gatwick...
yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5272 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9256 times:
Quoting readytotaxi (Reply 9): Wow, MCO ahead of IAH, a little suprised there.
But the yields at IAH are sooooooooooo much nicer!
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readytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 2626 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8759 times:
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16311 posts, RR: 52 Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8697 times:
bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6029 posts, RR: 9 Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8305 times:
Quoting SFOA380 (Reply 8): Atlanta doesn't even make the top ten when you add together Heathrow AND Gatwick...
Why is that surprising when we are talking about O&D markets?
aircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1424 posts, RR: 9 Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8126 times:
Interesting how on many of the top US-western European or US-Asian city pairs, the US carriers are much less popular, whereas on many US-South American the reverse is true.
bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6029 posts, RR: 9 Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7877 times:
Quoting aircellist (Reply 17): Interesting how on many of the top US-western European or US-Asian city pairs, the US carriers are much less popular, whereas on many US-South American the reverse is true.
ojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2794 posts, RR: 23 Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7771 times:
Quoting 757ops (Reply 5): Yeah KU and AI operate LHR-JFK but AI will discontinue this season after many years serving the route due to direct service from India.
LHR - JFK has been terminated by AI in 2008 November. It shifted to EWR and in April 2009, LHR - NYC was no longer served by AI. KU is operating LHR - JFK as of now.
A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep
knope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2567 posts, RR: 31 Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6832 times:
None of those stats appear to be O+D. They are the numbers of onboard passengers for nonstop flights.
In the DoT stats, the only Amsterdam city pair is DTW-AMS. That's clearly representative of the multiple nonstops NW/KL ran in the city pair and not local traffic. No way is Detroit-Amsterdam local traffic 664,000 while New York-Amsterdam local traffic is somwhere less than 500,000 because it isn't even big enough to crack the top 50.
Or look at the total Charlotte is credited with...2,341,440, compared with just 159,431 for Raleigh. Raleigh supports, with subsidy but without any hub feed, transatlantic nonstops. And the RDU service area isn't that much smaller than CLT. To suggest that for every 100 Charlotte local O+D international passengers, there are fewer than 7 local O?+D generated by Raleigh/Durham is absolutely implausible.
These numbers don't tell us anything about O+D. They are onboard passengers for nonstop flights.
BOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1900 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6478 times:
gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2903 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6336 times:
Don't be forgetting lil old Orlando-Sanford (SFB)!
If you guys are combining the figures together for NYC for JFK and EWR, Im sure the same should apply to MCO and SFB!
Having a guess with all the charter traffic to Orlando, you are probably looking at another 250,000 pax from LGW to SFB and that would probably push the combined Orlando traffic up to close to a Million per annum!
After that, its hard to make a guess - maybe Seattle or Atlanta.
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25 LAXdude1023: I would think PHL would be after that. Then SEA, ATL, and DFW in that order.
26 crownvic: My guess for PHL being so far down the list is aside from NYC & IAD, many of these top 10 cities do not have the fairly large direct feed into mai
27 MAH4546: Those are not O&D figures, they are total passengers traveled. Though, on top of that, LA, DC, Miami, Boston etc. are all just as well connected
28 crownvic: MAH4546...PHL is the largest NE city outside of NYC, so that is why I am questioning the whole list. If it is not O & D, then it just strengthens
29 MAH4546: But it's the fourth largest market to Europe after NYC, Boston and D.C. in the Northeast, which should not be that surprising. Philadelphia might be
30 aircellist: This one: http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/international-series/dec2009.htm (the DOT one, Table 8: Top 50 U.S- International Airport Pairs, Scheduled
31 bobnwa: Thanks, now I see what numbers you mean. You are correct.
32 AADC10: Check the fares. PHL is probably low on the list because US dominates and keeps the fares relatively high. IAH is down on the list because CO does th
33 FutureUScapt: US does not dominate the PHL-LHR route. BA has flown the route for decades and US only entered the LHR market in 2008, and still has an inferior sche
35 point2point: Could a fair estimate of O&D traffic at a particular airport be arrived at by simply taking the airport's O&D numbers and doing math from the
36 VV701: Here is a link to the archieved thread from the last time this subject was discussed: Largest U.S. Markets To Europe (by B752OS Mar 27 2009 in Civil A
37 dldtw1962: AMS-DTW or DTW-AMS can be that high if not higher in pass. numbers. DL has 4 flights daily and they have been going out some what full. DL is using AM
38 bobnwa: I would bet you can't back that up with any numbers. DL is continuing what NW started, both very successfully.
39 B752OS: When did AA, VS and BA each start service on BOS-LHR?
40 Viscount724: BA (then BOAC of course) started service to BOS in mid-1951, as a stop a couple of fimes a week en route to New York.
41 FlyIGuy: They dropped it last year...it never ran this year at all...
42 mattdell: That's a shame... that was my favorite flight! Leave at 11pm, get into LHR at 11am. It sure beat taking VS22 and getting in at 7am and fighting jet l
43 RDUDDJI: I think most of the aforementioned numbers are Mickey Mouse anyway. Most of us can guess the top markets to LON. It would be nice if official #'s wer
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