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Air China To Buy 4 X B777-300ER  
User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12236 times:

Source: http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nach...-planes-for-dollar-1-2-bln-020.htm

Excerpt: SHANGHAI, Sept 10 (Reuters) - Air China Ltd said it had agreed to buy four 777-300ER aircraft from Boeing for a total basic price of $1.15 billion to expand fleet capacity.

Another new customer for the 77W.

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User currently offlineKrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12201 times:

Good news for the B77W family, but disappointing news for the B747-8.

Congrats Boeing!

KrisYYZ


User currently offlineFlyNWA727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12150 times:

I could care less about the 748i. Glad to see another 77W customer. The 748i is great put it's sort of a "seen it before" type aircraft for me ( a la the original 747). I just figure that 15-20 years down the road—perhaps even sooner—Boeing will have enough justification to come up with their own full double-decker to either compete with or replace aging A380s.


First flight aboard a Northwest B727-251ADV out of BWI Thurgood Marshall Airport, my hometown airport.
User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10804 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 12137 times:

Not good. I couldnt care less than for more 77Ws. True aviation enthusiasts want the 748I!

User currently offlineElbowRoom From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 12062 times:

Existing customer according to Wiki: 15 777-300ER ordered on 16 July 2008, to replace 744s and 343s.

Deliveries (of the first 15) scheduled for 2011-15.

[Edited 2010-09-10 08:14:18]

User currently offlineFlyNWA727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11997 times:

Quoting na (Reply 3):
True aviation enthusiasts want the 748I!

Well, keep looking towards LH and KE, then. They will be flying the 748i. I'd venture as far as to say that there are possibly a good chunk of potential 748i customers, but they are taking the "wait and see" approach and letting LH and KE be the test dogs, for the aircraft. If LH and KE report good news with the aircraft, I'm sure we'll see some major orders from additional carriers.



First flight aboard a Northwest B727-251ADV out of BWI Thurgood Marshall Airport, my hometown airport.
User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11976 times:

Quoting na (Reply 3):
Not good. I couldnt care less than for more 77Ws. True aviation enthusiasts want the 748I!

100% agreed.

Quoting ElbowRoom (Reply 4):
Existing customer according to Wiki: 15 777-300ER ordered on 16 July 2008, to replace 744s and 343s.

Deliveries (of the first 15) scheduled for 2011-15.

Allright, sorry, must have missed that since they are not yet in service. (No pictures).


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6645 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11573 times:

Quoting Thorben (Reply 6):
Allright, sorry, must have missed that since they are not yet in service. (No pictures).

First delivery in June 2011 according to the current JP Intl Fleets book.

So it seems that this is a new order for four more 77Ws ?

The777Man



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9952 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11455 times:

Quoting ElbowRoom (Reply 4):
Existing customer according to Wiki: 15 777-300ER ordered on 16 July 2008, to replace 744s and 343s.

Deliveries (of the first 15) scheduled for 2011-15.

Seems that Wiki information is not true as no article on the internet about this Air China 4 x 777-300ER order mentions that Air China already has an outstanding order for the 777-300ER. I have also never read about Air China ordering the 777-300ER in the past...

A388


User currently offlineAwysBSB From Brazil, joined Sep 2005, 565 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11429 times:

Is there any LR in CA's plans?
CA needs to reach nonstop its farthest markets like Brazil.


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11338 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
So it seems that this is a new order for four more 77Ws ?

Yes, that is my understanding, too.

Quoting A388 (Reply 8):
Seems that Wiki information is not true as no article on the internet about this Air China 4 x 777-300ER order mentions that Air China already has an outstanding order for the 777-300ER. I have also never read about Air China ordering the 777-300ER in the past...

If you go on Boeing's website and do a user-defined report, you'll find it. Was signed in 2007.


User currently offlineElbowRoom From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11309 times:

Quoting ElbowRoom (Reply 4):
Existing customer according to Wiki: 15 777-300ER ordered on 16 July 2008, to replace 744s and 343s.

Deliveries (of the first 15) scheduled for 2011-15.

Boeing's Customer Summary for Air China shows an order for 15 777-300ER dated 14 Nov 2007.

Also this news article from July 2008 has some more info:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2008-07/16/content_6852167.htm

"Air China Ltd said it and wholly-owned unit Air China Import and Export Co have jointly signed an agreement to buy 45 aeroplanes from Boeing Co. In a statement filed with the Shanghai Stock Exchange, the company said the order breaks down into 15 Boeing 777s and 30 Boeing 737s."

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
First delivery in June 2011 according to the current JP Intl Fleets book.

So it seems that this is a new order for four more 77Ws ?

Seems right. Thanks.

(Sorry Thorben - we overlapped!)

[Edited 2010-09-10 10:42:42]

User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9210 posts, RR: 76
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10609 times:

I think this order is also linked to the recent change of the 787-8 to 787-9 aircraft by Air China.

Businessweek is reporting that the four new 77W aircraft were purchased at a "significant" discount, I think this may have been to do with delay compensation for the 787s.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-777s-at-significant-discount.html



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9952 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10370 times:

Quoting ElbowRoom (Reply 11):

Seems right. Thanks.

Thanks I found the Boeing link now, couldn't find it before. In any case, it is great to see another 77W flying for another airline. Now where's that A388 order.....  

A388


User currently offlineiflyCA From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8919 times:

Apart from LAX where will these 77Ws be flying first?

User currently offlineCysafan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7918 times:

Quoting iflyCA (Reply 14):
Apart from LAX where will these 77Ws be flying first?

The very popular destinations they have which the aircraft can fill up easily in domestic and international routes.


User currently offline328JET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6502 times:

Hmm, a sweet compensation deal for their delayed B787s?

User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1903 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6487 times:

Quoting na (Reply 3):
True aviation enthusiasts want the 748I!

I'm a true aviation enthusiast and I do not want any more 747s, or A380s, or any double-deckers for that matter. They are ugly and hideous.

Bash me all you want, but the Mighty Tripple Seven is the quintestence of the aviation eye candy to me.



Now get your f***ing Jumbo Jet off my airport!!! - AC/DC "Ain't No Fun To Be a Millionaire"
User currently offlinekeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6419 times:

I think there isn't much of an alternative if you need a lot of payload range within a few yrs, congratulation to Boeing. I would not be surprised to see a few more 777W orders from China.

User currently onlineafterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5600 times:

Quoting na (Reply 3):
True aviation enthusiasts want the 748I!

True aviation enthusiasts want the best for aviation.


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5000 times:

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 18):
I'm a true aviation enthusiast and I do not want any more 747s, or A380s, or any double-deckers for that matter. They are ugly and hideous.

Bash me all you want, but the Mighty Tripple Seven is the quintestence of the aviation eye candy to me.
Quoting afterburner (Reply 21):
True aviation enthusiasts want the best for aviation.

I guess most people like diversity when it comes to planes. With the Trijets gone, the quads and double-deckers, and maybe the t-tails are the only interesting ones left. All other are just "BUTS". Boring ugly twins.

EJet, MRJ, SSJ, A32X, 737, CSeries, MS-21, C919, 767, A330, 777, A350, 787. Nice planes, but they all look the same. One shape fits all sizes. B O R I N G !

Quoting iflyCA (Reply 14):
Apart from LAX where will these 77Ws be flying first?

There were they now are flying the 744s. FRA for example.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6645 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4933 times:

Quoting iflyCA (Reply 14):
Apart from LAX where will these 77Ws be flying first?

I guess anywhere they fly the 744 or 74E; SFO, JFK and LAX to name a few. I don't think CA fly the 744/74E to Europe currently but I could be wrong.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4482 times:

Another source, with a little picture.

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...china-agrees-buy-4-777-300ers-0912


User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4405 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4472 times:

Quoting Zeke (Reply 12):
Businessweek is reporting that the four new 77W aircraft were purchased at a "significant" discount, I think this may have been to do with delay compensation for the 787s.



So, while Airbus gave away free A330 for every A380 delay ( common a.net prejudice) now we see Boeing giving away free 77W for every 787 delay. Bad buisiness. Joke aside, congrats to B and Air China.

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 17):
Bash me all you want, but the Mighty Tripple Seven is the quintestence of the aviation eye candy to me.



You love long fat sausages? For me, the 764 looks far more elegant than the 77W.


User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1584 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4232 times:

Quoting Zeke (Reply 12):
I think this order is also linked to the recent change of the 787-8 to 787-9 aircraft by Air China.

Businessweek is reporting that the four new 77W aircraft were purchased at a "significant" discount, I think this may have been to do with delay compensation for the 787s.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-777s-at-significant-discount.html

Conversion from 787-8 to 787-9, solving the non delivery of 787-8 problem then 3 days later an order for 4x777W for delivery next year? Reeks of a compensation deal.

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 23):


So, while Airbus gave away free A330 for every A380 delay ( common a.net prejudice) now we see Boeing giving away free 77W for every 787 delay. Bad business. Joke aside, congrats to B and Air China.

Its bad, bad business filling up the production line with discount frames especially on a product that you sell for a premium, the 77W has been a cash cow for Boeing and GE in the past.



BV
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