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Conviasa ATR Plane Crashes In Venezuela  
User currently offlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3025 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 20966 times:

There has been a plane crash in Venezuela involving the the state airline Conviasa operating on an internal flight from Manuel Carlos Piar Airport, near Ciudad Guayana to Porlamar on Isla Margarita...

The flight had 47 people onboard (43 pax and 4 crew) and appears to have crashed just after take off, 6 miles from the airport in the suburbs of Puerto Ordaz.

Initial reports were stating there was no survivors, but now there are reports stating there was 23 survivors which is some good news.... It seems to be an ATR aircraft at this stage which is involved in the accident.

News reports are still coming through, so news it still patchy... The below links should be updated as more news becomes available and clearer:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11289500

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor..._Airline_Conviasas_Domestic_Flight

[Edited 2010-09-13 08:58:23]

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User currently offline777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 20901 times:

Link in spanish:

http://www.elespectador.com/noticias...ela-se-estrella-avion-54-pasajeros

http://www.eluniversal.com/2010/09/1...on-de-conviasa-se_13A4460811.shtml

El Universal reports some injured pax are being taking to hospitals.

Conviasa flight from Puerto Ordaz to Isla Margarita. 43 pax 4 crew.

[Edited 2010-09-13 08:47:07]


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User currently offline777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 20428 times:

El Nacional of venezuela confirmos is a ATR-42. venezuelan minster of transportation said the plane had technical failures 6nm out of Puerto Ordaz.

Also reports of survivors, but doesn't say how many.

http://www.el-nacional.com/www/site/...estrella-en-instalaciones-de-Sidor

ps. Article shows a BA 744 taking off, instead of anything similar to an ATR. Journalists keep surprising me....



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User currently offline777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 20245 times:

Seems this is the bird that went down....


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User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 19570 times:

15 deaths so far, extra official.

I am so nervous. I know the Captain of that flight. Nothing has been released yet.




Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 19399 times:

Here's the link in spanish with more photos:

http://www.svzmspotters.net/new/noticias.php?id=262



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlinehugoandres1984 From Venezuela, joined Dec 2009, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 19350 times:

News says there are 25 survivors so far. I hope everybody is ok

User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 19163 times:

I just received news all the crew is alive! Oh God!



[Edited 2010-09-13 09:27:11]


Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2561 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 18952 times:

Another tragic aviation event. Very sad.

This is the second ATR accident in venezuela in less than 3 years. A Santa Barbara ATR-42 crashed into a mountain in Feb 2008 shortly after take off killing all 46 occupants. After than, Santa Barbara's ATR were grounded as the airplane type was put under suspicion.

In the latest case, it seems the crash happened shortly after the plane took off, precipitating to the ground.


User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 18954 times:

Quoting Summa767 (Reply 8):
In the latest case, it seems the crash happened shortly after the plane took off, precipitating to the ground.

Negative. It was approaching the airport and the pilot called in with controls failure.



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineLIA310 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Mar 2008, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 18955 times:

I flew on this aircraft last summer PMV-GND-PMV. It's extremely saddening to hear about this accident. All the best to the survivors.

R.I.P YV1010 and it's occupants.


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6664 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 18923 times:

I can't make out the crash site, is it an industrial zone ? Seems pretty empty fortunately.

OK, there is this in the BBC article : "uninhabited land owned by the state-run Sidor steel foundry".

I guess the plane was still somewhat controllable, or maybe just luck ? We should know quickly if the crew is OK.



New Technology is the name we give to stuff that doesn't work yet. Douglas Adams
User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 18651 times:

Extra official news report all crew and pilots alive.

Two passengers have died so far.

Some passengers (survivors) reported to the news the airplane presented some failures after takeoff...

This is all so confusing.



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlinehugoandres1984 From Venezuela, joined Dec 2009, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 18519 times:

I can't make out the crash site, is it an industrial zone ? Seems pretty empty fortunately.

OK, there is this in the BBC article : "uninhabited land owned by the state-run Sidor steel foundry".

I guess the plane was still somewhat controllable, or maybe just luck ? We should know quickly if the crew is OK.


It was an industrial deposite, it seems that the crew has a control of the airplane before crashing. the aircraft was departing from GNA to PMV. It was the only ATR flying to Conviasa. The others are in the hangar waiting for parts. I can presume that the airplane suffer a mecanical problem due to a lack of parts a lack of dollar an the situation of the country.


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12476 posts, RR: 37
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 18045 times:

This aircraft is seven years old; CN 371. It started life with Air Wales as G-TAWE and then went to Gill Air and from there to Conviasa, in 2006.

Glad to know that there are survivors.


User currently offlineLIA310 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Mar 2008, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 17775 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 14):

It started off with Gill Aviation in 1994 therefore it's 17 years old.


User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 17571 times:


Here's another shot.

I have received news that all the crew is dead.

I flew with the Captain of this flight. Captain Ramiro Cadena, ex-Viasa pilot.

He was a great guy who love aviation beyond belief. I admired him and looked forward to become a pilot with his qualities.

I will miss him.

All my thoughts and prayers go to his family. Especially his son, who is a LAN Boeing 767 Captain.

Rest in peace, Ramiro.



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineNumero4 From Canada, joined Feb 2010, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16542 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 16):
I have received news that all the crew is dead.
I flew with the Captain of this flight. Captain Ramiro Cadena, ex-Viasa pilot.
He was a great guy who love aviation beyond belief. I admired him and looked forward to become a pilot with his qualities.
I will miss him.

 

My thoughts to all the families and friends of the deceased. Another sad day in aviation. Let's hope their lives will not be forgotten and that the inquiry will prevent future accidents.



CYQB
User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2561 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16274 times:

In a press conference, the province governor gave some details: 33 people who were onboard are in different hospitals, 14 are confirmed dead and a further 4 are unaccounted for, presumed to be still trapped in the wreckage.

A worker from the site where the plane crashed is also receiving treatment in hospital for smoke inhalation. He was acknowledged by the governor for his bravery in rescuing people from the plane.


User currently offlineogre727 From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 720 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16184 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 16):
Here's another shot.

I have received news that all the crew is dead.

I flew with the Captain of this flight. Captain Ramiro Cadena, ex-Viasa pilot.

He was a great guy who love aviation beyond belief. I admired him and looked forward to become a pilot with his qualities.

I will miss him.

Sorry to hear... very sad news indeed. My thoughts are with you/family/friends of all related.



Sigh
User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 15350 times:

Very sad news, but it's always nice to hear that most of the occupants survived. Can you imagine if the aircraft had fallen in top of the iron factory?

Two fatal accidents in northern south america in approximately one month. Bad coincidence.



Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlineWoof From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13770 times:

Quoting LIA310 (Reply 15):
It started off with Gill Aviation in 1994 therefore it's 17 years old.

Ouch, that probably means I've flown this bird BOH > EDI

Condolences to those involved / affected/


User currently offlinerleiro From Venezuela, joined Jan 2006, 499 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 12661 times:

According to the latest statement, 36 passengers survived the crash and 15 died, including the crew. The most of the fatalities were the passengers in the forward section of the airplane.

The crew did its best in such circumstances. Unfortunately, they died in the crash.

Roberto.



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User currently offlineWiLdmanVzla From Mexico, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11303 times:

R.I.P to all casualties

User currently offlinerikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1647 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11274 times:

My condolences to all who lost loved ones in this tragic accident.

Without trying to be an arnchair investigator, it looks like the aircraft came down in a parking lot. That, or a fairly clear area of this Steel Mill. My complete and total admiration to the crew for getting thie aicraft down and away from a populated area. I concur with Roberto: they did the best with what they had to work with.

Again, R.I.P. to the victims.



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25 ODAFZ : very sad news RIP to all the victims. Solace and strength to the surviving and affected ones
26 bjorn14 : Four crew? Were there two FAs on board? Is this a government requirement or airline?
27 SQ321 : Great view from a Cessna while joining the circuit there is a huge hydroelectric plant there and lots of metal works
28 tavong : Sad news, condolences to the families, friends and relatives to the victims and fallen crew. R.I.P. Gus SKBO
29 Post contains images trintocan : This is very sad to hear. My condolences to all who lost loved ones in this accident. May those who passed on rest in peace. Chillingly, too, I join t
30 CYBERGUS : Sad news RIP to all the victims. Right now ATR manufacture offered their services for the investigations of the accident. Lets wait and see what is th
31 viasa : My condolences to all of the people which had family and friends lost in this accident. But I'm shocked about the safety of Conviasa. They had an acci
32 Post contains links LIA310 : "Trinidad and Tobago suspends V'zuela airline" Local aviation authorities yesterday suspended Venezuela's state airline from flying to Trinidad and To
33 797 : I completely agree with you. It's been overwhelming. Inside voices from Conviasa have complained in the past on the poor maintenance records the airl
34 abrelosojos : Sad day. RIP to those who did not make it.
35 Post contains links abrelosojos : In Spanish, but talks about the heroism: http://www.ultimasnoticias.com.ve/ca...=3329397&idcat=56657&tipo=2&ref=nf
36 A388 : To me this step is a bit too drastic at such short notice unless those authorities know more about this airline then we do but basically to halt an a
37 Post contains links lamedianaranja : Que Descanses en Paz, Ramirito http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...m.php?aid=23855&id=139543039417291
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