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Australian Aviation Thread # 40  
User currently offlineqf175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 660 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 23470 times:

Throughout thread 39, the following was discussed / mentioned / announced:

* Qantas announced a new seasonal Brisbane - Broome service from April 2011 - 2x weekly
* 2-class Qantas 747-400s and Premium Economy
* Virgin Blue posts $34.3m profit and will take delivery of 2 A330s from 2011
* Virgin Blue to suspend SYD-NAN, MEL-JNB/HKT and BNE-HKT
* Virgin Blue to remove their E70s?
* Qantas applies for additional capacity in order to operate select 747-400s services to Shanghai
* Terrible Cairns weather and a significant amount of diversions
* Jetstar to increase capacity on key domestic routes
* Virgin Blue and Emirates to terminate existing codesharing agreement
* V Australia announces new agreement with Etihad Airways and SYD/BNE-AUH services
* Virgin Blue's current livery - Hans Hulsboch to redesign the Group's image/livery
* Qantas looking at operating services to Brazil - lengthy discussion about routes and inhibiting factors
* Qantas poised to return to some routes only operated by Jetstar
* US DOT tentatively denies VA/DL tie-up
* New Qantas Domestic product
* ACCC rejects proposed Air New Zealand - Virgin Blue alliance
* Profitability of the Virgin Blue Group
* Virgin Blue's 10th Birthday
* The ACCC and other rulings

Cheers

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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24638 posts, RR: 86
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 23311 times:
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From the previous thread:

"Virgin Blue doesn't really fly to and from provincial Australia. So a NZ/DJ alliance won't really benefit people in the bush anyway."

I wasn't really thinking of "the bush" when I said provincial Australia. I don't think of the bush as provincial, I think of it as - well, the bush.

And I don't think of Australia in the old terms of "Sydney - or the Bush."

At last count, Virgin Blue flies to more than a dozen provincial cities on the east coast, excluding Brisbane and - probably - Canberra.

Whether Mildura and Albury are provincial or the bush may be up for debate.

mariner



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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4692 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 23215 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 1):
Virgin Blue flies to more than a dozen provincial cities on the east coast, excluding Brisbane

Touche  

In all seriousness, whether Canberra is a "capital" or "provincial" city is massively debatable. Obviously it is THE capital and as such a (somewhat) important destination in its own right, but in all honesty is about a trillion miles from Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane (yes, that sleepy little town!) and I've often heard it referred to as "the capital of rural NSW" in the same way as Townsville is "the capital of North Queensland"



Mr Borghetti said Virgin needed need to improve its competitive position for both corporate and leisure travellers to turn the trans-Tasman routes to profit

Are the trans-tasmans not profitable at the moment? I thought they were and that this was designed to increase profitability... If they're not surely DJ should just dump and run. They've been flying to NZ since 2004 (????) so surely by now they'd have realised that money is not forthcoming on the routes.

Unfortunately, no-one in Australia seems inclined to stop Qantas from bribing the regulators with Chairman's Lounge perks, and Qantas continues to be propped up in this way

OK, Qantas Club membership costs ~$800 pa. Let's say that Chairman's Club is worth twice what QFClub membership is worth, or 3, 4, or even 5 times more, you're still looking at a pretty insignificant "bribe". Given the massive value of the transactions the ACCC deal with (billions) then a lounge invitation worth a couple of thousand dollars a year hardly registers.

Qantas' entire business plan is based upon setting up pseudo-monopolies to dominate the market

Last time I checked QF's entire business plan is based upon moving people from A to B at a profit.



As to the VA/EY tie-up I can't see this one being opposed: There is no way anybody could claim it decreases competition: it's bringing an entirely new airline to the the Australia - UAE market, and anyway EK and QR are hardly insignificant competitors. And as for the Australia - UK argument, surely there's more than enough competition there to keep prices down for many years to come. In fact a complete stab in the dark: with QF/BA, VS, SQ, EK, EY, QR, TG, MH, CX, KE, JL et al the kangaroo route must be one of the most competitive international routes in the world.



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User currently offlineqf175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 660 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 23195 times:

Good news for Brisbane

Korean Airlines - Source

* Services increased to 6x weekly from 31OCT10 to 25FEB11
* 747-400s to operate select service during first week November
* Larger A330-300 to operate select services during the abovementioned period (replaces A330-200)

Thai Airways - Source

Thai Airways will introduce the large 777-300 on all its Brisbane services effective 31OCT11, replacing the 777-200ERs which currently service the route

Qantas

Qantas will reintroduce daily services on the Brisbane - Los Angeles route from January 2011 with the introduction of a Monday service. It's understood the 747-400ERs will primarily operate these services

Cheers


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4692 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 23181 times:

Quoting qf175 (Reply 4):
747-400s to operate select service during first week November

Is that a peak travel time in Korea? I certainly can't think of any reason for the additional capacity from this end...

Still it's great that KE are increasing capacity again: 3 weekly always seemed a little forlorn compared to the the
6 weekly/daily pre-GFC frequencies

Quoting qf175 (Reply 4):
Qantas will reintroduce daily services on the Brisbane - Los Angeles route from January 2011 with the introduction of a Monday service. It's understood the 747-400ERs will primarily operate these services

WOOP!!! And using the 400ERs: does that mean Y+ configured aircraft (even if not sold as such)?

Incidentally, surely QF should make this route Y+ since VA has it and it's the only competitive advantage I can think of which VA has over QF on the route.

Quoting qf175 (Reply 4):
Thai Airways - Source

Thai Airways will introduce the large 777-300 on all its Brisbane services effective 31OCT11, replacing the 777-200ERs which currently service the route

More great news. But you missed something: see where the BNE 77W is coming from......



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User currently offlineeta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2051 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 23122 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 4):
More great news. But you missed something: see where the BNE 77W is coming from......

I'm going to guess... coming from MEL or SYD (again). This would mean the BNE-BKK stand alone experiment failed. If SYD, does that mean BKK-SYD would be 3x/day again?


User currently offlineqf175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 660 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 23100 times:

Quoting eta unknown (Reply 5):
I'm going to guess... coming from MEL or SYD (again). This would mean the BNE-BKK stand alone experiment failed. If SYD, does that mean BKK-SYD would be 3x/day again?

Hang on.. before we start making wild statements and jumping to conclusions..

1. The 5x weekly terminator services will remain as is
2. The 777-200ERs used to operate services to Brisbane, go to Melbourne
3. The 777-300s freed from Melbourne services go to Brisbane
4. The move to 777-300s results in an extra 360 seats a week suggesting things may be on the improve..


User currently offlineqf175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 660 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 23095 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 4):
WOOP!!! And using the 400ERs: does that mean Y+ configured aircraft (even if not sold as such)?

Incidentally, surely QF should make this route Y+ since VA has it and it's the only competitive advantage I can think of which VA has over QF on the route.

Qantas has offered Premium Economy on its Brisbane - Los Angeles services for some time now, just not in its truest form. Two rows of Skybeds on the lower deck are sold as Premium Economy (technically you're getting a lie-flat bed for the same price as the real W seat ex-SYD/MEL - pretty good deal if you ask me).


User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3314 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 23085 times:

Quoting eta unknown (Reply 5):
If SYD, does that mean BKK-SYD would be 3x/day again?

Sydney is already due to be triple daily A346.

flights numbers and Sydney arr/dep times

TG 471 / TG 472 2105 - 0755+ 1
TG 475 / TG 476 0740 - 1100
TG 477 / TG 478 1320 - 1630


User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5080 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 22997 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 2):
Let's say that Chairman's Club is worth twice what QFClub membership is worth, or 3, 4, or even 5 times more, you're still looking at a pretty insignificant "bribe"

But it is still a personal perk that the ACCC Chairman has the luxury of having.


User currently offlineaussieindc From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 22988 times:

Quoting qf175 (Reply 7):
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 4):
WOOP!!! And using the 400ERs: does that mean Y+ configured aircraft (even if not sold as such)?

Incidentally, surely QF should make this route Y+ since VA has it and it's the only competitive advantage I can think of which VA has over QF on the route.

Qantas has offered Premium Economy on its Brisbane - Los Angeles services for some time now, just not in its truest form. Two rows of Skybeds on the lower deck are sold as Premium Economy (technically you're getting a lie-flat bed for the same price as the real W seat ex-SYD/MEL - pretty good deal if you ask me).

But strangely, in January, it was showing that Y+ was not being sold as I was hoping to do this in February when I popped home for a visit. It will be nice if they don't sell it and I can get Y+ seat for Economy price with my status. I know, pipe dream, but you gotta hope. lol.


User currently offlineditzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 700 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 22964 times:

Quoting aussieindc (Reply 10):
t will be nice if they don't sell it and I can get Y+ seat for Economy price with my status. I know, pipe dream, but you gotta hope. lol.

The normal cosmetic configs for the 747 Pacific (normal config 14P 66J 40W 187Y) are as follows;

38J 42W 227Y (P is sold as J, maindeck J sold as W, W sold as Y)

38J 28W 241Y (P is sold as J, maindeck 'B' zone sold as W, 'C' zone J and W sold as Y)


User currently offlineaussieindc From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 22948 times:

Quoting ditzyboy (Reply 11):
The normal cosmetic configs for the 747 Pacific (normal config 14P 66J 40W 187Y) are as follows;

38J 42W 227Y (P is sold as J, maindeck J sold as W, W sold as Y)

38J 28W 241Y (P is sold as J, maindeck 'B' zone sold as W, 'C' zone J and W sold as Y)


Thanks ditzyboy!

Is there an indication that they will sell 'W' class fares from January going forward. As mentioned previously, for whatever reason, 'W', 'R', 'T' classes aren't showing for sale January 19th onwards. The reason I ask is that I was looking at purchasing Y+ for my trip in February and would prefer the QF15/16 option.

Cheers,
Aussieindc


User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24638 posts, RR: 86
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 22910 times:
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Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 2):
Are the trans-tasmans not profitable at the moment?

Branson says not. Emirates has claimed to make a profit on their Tasman and I have to assume they're not telling fibs and their cost analysis may be different.

But I would be surprised if anyone is making money - or decent money - on the Tasman generally, on a year round basis.

I don't share the ACCC's concerns about the consumer - I don't see the airline passenger as such a fragile flower, I prefer the view of Ryanair's Michael O'Leary:

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_37/b4194058006755.htm

Business Week: "At the heart of the O'Leary philosophy is the idea that commercial air passengers are not delicate creatures whose repeat business depends on free pillows, blankets, and tea. Rather, they are hardy beasts—parsimonious when buying a ticket, profligate once in the air—willing to endure discomfort and indignity just so long as they get to their destination cheaply and with their suitcases."

It doesn't matter, of course, the ACCC has ruled and it will play out as it will, but I'd love to know what base line was being used to make the assessments because - I think - the Tasman fare situation is presently not realistic.

Separately, I think it is a real kick in the nuts to Air NZ - again. But that doesn't surprise me.

mariner

[Edited 2010-09-14 12:41:31]


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User currently offlineDJ748 From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 22829 times:

Quoting qf175 (Reply 3):
* Larger A330-300 to operate select services during the abovementioned period (replaces A330-200)

BNE isn't exclusively the A332 - I've seen the A333 here on numerous occassions this year and it's the main aircraft type they operate in with the A332 occasionally being used.

Quoting qf175 (Reply 3):
Thai Airways will introduce the large 777-300 on all its Brisbane services effective 31OCT11, replacing the 777-200ERs which currently service the route

TG have updated the BNE/MEL aircraft changes overnight as seen on airlineroute.net - http://airlineroute.net/2010/09/14/tg-w10-update6/

Quote:
Bangkok – Brisbane Boeing 777-300 replace -200ER
Bangkok – Melbourne TG465/466 Boeing 777-200ER replace -300

Above routes to go into effect from 15JAN11. Original plan was from 31OCT10


User currently offlineAirNiugini From Australia, joined Mar 2010, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 22756 times:

I have some questions in regards to the DJ and NZ tie-up....

Does an Airline need to seek the approval of a government body like the ACCC if they were wanting to join an alliance?

and

Would the benefits of joining the Star Alliance for example, be similar to what DJ and NZ proposed?

Thanks


User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5080 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 22542 times:

I would say some of the DJ Trans Tasman routes are profitable, however they do play a smaller part in DJ's network than say Air NZ's.

I owuld also say that TT operations are less important to feeding DJ's International & Domestic Network than NZ's TT routes feeding LAX/SFO/YVR etc.

It will be interesting to see how all the capacity works out. I ams ure NZ must have lost a fair chunk of MEL/BNE/SYD-AKL-LAX flying once VA/DL came online.

[Edited 2010-09-14 23:21:56]

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 22352 times:

Quoting DJ748 (Reply 14):

Quote:
Bangkok – Brisbane Boeing 777-300 replace -200ER
Bangkok – Melbourne TG465/466 Boeing 777-200ER replace -300

Above routes to go into effect from 15JAN11. Original plan was from 31OCT10

Can we please explain why TG overnight a A346...?
Correct me if I am wrong but is this due to the BNE service operating direct and not via SYD...

EK413



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User currently offlineDJ748 From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 22337 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 17):
Can we please explain why TG overnight a A346...?
Correct me if I am wrong but is this due to the BNE service operating direct and not via SYD...

No overnighting an A346 in BNE - it would arrive roughly 10.30 to 11pm and depart again at 11.59pm as a stop on the nightly SYD-BKK service. Now instead it will go non-stop from SYD-BKK as they are dropping the nightly stopover in BNE to put more pax on the non-stop service, which has a much better departure time from BNE of 2pm.


User currently offlineBen175 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 22222 times:

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsbusiness.php?id=527882

Malaysia Airlines is launching thrice weekly services between Perth and Kota Kinabalu from January 15. Great news for PER, BKI is a destination currently unserved by another airline. Good work MH!


User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 22194 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 4):

Is that a peak travel time in Korea? I certainly can't think of any reason for the additional capacity from this end...

Still it's great that KE are increasing capacity again: 3 weekly always seemed a little forlorn compared to the the
6 weekly/daily pre-GFC frequencies

Agreed it is a little early. Previous years QF put on a seasonal service to/from BNE/SEL. Usually started around January through to March, it was usually a 763, opperating 3 days per week, and it was always jammed solid



CR7 D10 DHT DH8 DH2 DH3 DH4 EMB ER3 E90 F28 J32 M80 SH6 320 332 333 717 732 733 734 738 743 744 752 762 763 772
User currently offlinespkyflyer From Australia, joined Aug 2006, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 22153 times:

Quoting aussieindc (Reply 12):
Quoting ditzyboy (Reply 11):

So is this for all non A380 services from east coast aus to US?


User currently offlineeta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2051 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 21924 times:

Quoting Ben175 (Reply 19):
Malaysia Airlines is launching thrice weekly services between Perth and Kota Kinabalu from January 15. Great news for PER, BKI is a destination currently unserved by another airline

This will seriously affect BI as the BWN-BKI connecting flight time is only 25min.

Here's an interesting bit of trivia I discovered today about the velocityrewards program (I was bored and getting impatient with a Virgin BNE-SYD flight to post to my account from 2 weeks ago). In Oct/Nov you can fly SYD-LAX return for approx $1010 (V class) and earn 0.25 credits per mile. Alternatively, you can fly Delta (T class) for $910 return and earn 0.50 credits per mile!!!

But wait... it gets better!!! Suppose you want to redeem your velocity points SYD-LAX-SYD. You can choose between VA or DL for 94,000 points BUT the "taxes, fees, and surcharges" are as follows:
DL $173.98
VA $334.52

QF is looking attractive again...

[Edited 2010-09-15 22:21:58]

User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 4692 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 21860 times:

Quoting eta unknown (Reply 5):
I'm going to guess... coming from MEL or SYD (again). This would mean the BNE-BKK stand alone experiment failed.

Actually the complete opposite....

Quoting DJ748 (Reply 14):
Quote:
Bangkok – Brisbane Boeing 777-300 replace -200ER
Bangkok – Melbourne TG465/466 Boeing 777-200ER replace -300

Above routes to go into effect from 15JAN11. Original plan was from 31OCT10

They're moving a 77W from MEL to BNE and in return moving the 772 from BNE to MEL

At least that's my analysis of the above.

Quoting qf175 (Reply 7):
Qantas has offered Premium Economy on its Brisbane - Los Angeles services for some time now, just not in its truest form. Two rows of Skybeds on the lower deck are sold as Premium Economy

Oh OK, I thought BNE-LAX didn't have premium economy. Interesting. Incidentally, does SYD-SFO?

Quoting ANstar (Reply 9):
But it is still a personal perk that the ACCC Chairman has the luxury of having.

I'll concede that I understand what you're saying. But as I said on #39, I would not be in the slightest bit surprised if the head of CASA had Chairman's Lounge membership. However, I expect CASA to be no less impartial as a result. If QF gave out Chairman's Lounge membership and the next day DJ had their AOC revoked on spurious grounds then, yes, there is obviously something going on there. But so long as CASA makes sure that QF are safe etc and are held to the same standards as everyone else (which I presume they are) then it surely isn't an issue if the head-honcho travels comfortably



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User currently offlineDJ748 From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 21809 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 23):
They're moving a 77W from MEL to BNE and in return moving the 772 from BNE to MEL

At least that's my analysis of the above.

That should be the plan, or atleast with the 773 - TG are deploying their 77W's on other routes into Europe where they would have the demand for first class (the 773's are devoid of first class) and need the extra range the 77W has over the 773. I'm now sure how the 77W on European routes is affecting the 744 operations there.


25 ANstar : Just for a fair comparison how much tax do QF charge on the route?
26 eta unknown : You're missing the point... the DJ program penalises you for flying VA whether it be earning or redeeming miles. Then again, VA is a strange operation
27 ANstar : You can pre select a seat by calling the reservations centre. Not sure if you can preselect online with QF's website, but last time I flew QF you cou
28 eta unknown : Yes, you can pre-select seats with QF (international) and check-in on-line. Even if the reservation was made by another carrier, the facility exists t
29 ANstar : Well that is a major issue IMHO.... When they decided to go AMadeus for VA and New SKies for DJ it was a pretty short sighted view... one that a few
30 JQflightie : I have a question about Ansett. I understand that their subsidiary Kendall operated a fleet of CRJ200's (or maybe 700's). How many were operated, also
31 Post contains links and images tayser : Looks like someone in the India government has a problem with AI's DEL-MEL-DEL (from Indian Aviation thread): http://www.hindustantimes.com/Minist...b
32 alangirvan : The order for CRJ-200s was about 12, and they started arriving in 2000. I was in a demonstration flight at Canberra in late 1999, I think, when a Laud
33 Post contains images JQflightie : great, thanks for that! as i suspected about these aircraft not being very efficient! And i didnt realise they were only added to the fleet so late i
34 vhqpa : They flew around 12 CRJ 200's around the east coast. The main reason was to free up AN 146 and 737/320 frames on thinner routes. I have misplaced my
35 Post contains images BNE : Nice find; but I am not likely to fly V Australia or Delta any time soon. Brisbane-LAX has been advertising Premium economy; but some flights you use
36 Post contains images eta unknown : In theory... yes... until the day you actually travel and a 2 class 747 shows up and then you go onto flyertalk.com and whinge about not getting your
37 ZuluAlpha : QF currently charges Approx AUD360.00 Subject to exchange rates With QF you earn 1 point for every mile you fly, regardless of how cheap the QF fare
38 RyanairGuru : I'm still really confused ...... my mother and her partner were due to fly NZ SFO-AKL-BNE in June. Due to pilot illness the flight from SFO - AKL was
39 legacyins : I just booked QF 73/74 to Sydney next month through my travel agent and purchased a PE seat. The agent said in her system it shows a 3 class flight w
40 Post contains links sydscott : I'm also on SFO-SYD in October and, although I paid for the dirt cheap economy fare that was on sale a few weeks ago, I'm in Premium Economy on the s
41 airnewzealand : Incorrect. Jetconnect will not be retiring a 734 from their fleet. Only 1 will leave the fleet. 2 will remain, effectively, Jetconnect will be growin
42 RyanairGuru : Given that JetConnect don't have a CHC crew base will this be flown on a W routing i.e. AKL-SYD-CHC-SYD-AKL with the crew night-stopping in CHC? Sure
43 Post contains links cwalt : The US Department of Transportation has given Delta Air Lines and Virgin Blue the requested three week extension to state their case for antitrust imm
44 Post contains images JQflightie : QF577 SYD-PER today was operated by a 744 and returning back to SYD as QF566. This route was suppose to be flown by a 333. Would be nice to see this m
45 JQflightie : further to that, it was all widebody a/c on this route today... lets hope it stays like that!
46 airnewzealand : Hello RyanAirGuru, As Jetconnect Longhaul crew, ill try and answer some of your questions. Our base opened in 1999. Back then we operated as Adecco C
47 Post contains images jetfuel : About 4 weeks ago a VA 773 was pushed back in to a fence at LAX. I did post about it previously. Its been fairly hush hush.
48 ditzyboy : With yours truly as one of the cabin crew (on the QF566). We had already operated down from SIN, made for a long day! Config was 66J 241Y. P sold as
49 RyanairGuru : Thank you very much for such a detailed post! That makes a lot of sense, and I can definitely understand the initial logic for an AKL base. However (
50 ANstar : I dont see the big deal. Certainly not the airlines fault and the offending item was replaced/repaired within days. Cost - Jetconnect crews will be c
51 Post contains images NZ107 : Because it wasn't Qantas.
52 jetfuel : It wasn't VA's fault and new parts were AOG and the plane was flying again within 3 days
53 jsoprano : I was in PER last week and have seen something I cannot explain: outside the International Terminal (landside) is a signage installation that has the
54 Ben175 : I brought this up earlier this year, and not even airport staff can give a reason why AY has signage there. It's quite unusual, because even some of
55 747m8te : CX? I know AY codeshare on selected CX services to BNE, CNS, SYD and MEL
56 airnewzealand : We are essentially on the same money (actually make more) than our QCCA counterparts. It is not about money, its about working conditions. No problem
57 thegeek : Airnewzealand, I am guessing that there is no more hiring for Jetconnect long haul though. Can short haul crew an A330 like QF mainline can (not sure
58 ANstar : Well over all including working practices, you must be more economical otherwise I would expect QF would not be growing your numbers. They dont seem
59 Post contains images RyanairGuru : airnewzealand, thank you so much for answering my questions! That makes so much more sense now... One final thing I'm slightly bemused by ......... wh
60 Post contains images JQflightie : Well i hope it visits often... i would take that flight more often back to SYD..... more chance of getting on...and SkyBed We pulled into PER today a
61 Post contains images airnewzealand : Hi thegeek, We are currently hiring (have 2 classes in training at the moment) with one more due soon. Shorthaul Jetconnect crew fly 737-800 and 737-
62 Post contains images TN486 : go on, tell us, "you forgot your camera"!! On a more serious note, welcome back, its good to hear from you.
63 thegeek : Well, that surprises me. Besides operating the SYD-AKL positioning A332 flight and the AKL-LAX, flight, how are they getting out of AKL? It may be ne
64 RyanairGuru : You're answer was in Reply 46, but yes you're right
65 Post contains images JQflightie : Thanks TN486..... just finished moving across the country and now based in PER with QF .....................and yes ... forgot the camera and also ti
66 JQflightie : Just a question on QF's fleet of A300's aquiered from Australian Airlines back in the 90's. How many did QF recieve? also were they newer then the 767
67 Post contains links tayser : have a feeling it's been reported before, however China Southern's expansion plans: http://www.theage.com.au/world/major...e-tourist-boom-20100919-15h
68 thegeek : I guess it was. What I was really trying to ask though, is why do QF want to do it this way? Isn't there an ex-gratia payment which must be made to c
69 Post contains links and images jetfuel : TAA ordered the A300 back in 1974 VH-TAA, VH-TAB, VH-TAC, VH-TAD, VH-TAE were delivered to TAA in the early 1980's, way ahead of the AN 767 fleet. By
70 xiaotung : It's safe to say all CZ services will be from CAN.
71 alangirvan : The order was placed in late 79, and the first A300 arrived in the middle of 81. The fifth aircraft was deferred for a short time, and TAA asked Air
72 IndianicWorld : That increase is huge. Pax growth has been high, but its a very sudden increase in flights to fill. We will see how that goes. I did not expect MEL t
73 TN486 : In actual fact, only 4 of the 5 A300's saw service with QF, they were VH-TAA, TAC, TAD, and TAE. VH-TAB was sold to TOA Domestic in Mar 87. QF took ov
74 Post contains images JQflightie : Now that would have been a sight.,..... A320's in a QF livery
75 alangirvan : The maintenance was done by a unit of Airbus, not by BA. Interesting thought about the time when Qantas first started domestic flying with their own
76 TN486 : Alan, I dont dispute that, as I thought that was the case, however a "bible" of mine, aussieairliners.net says it differently. Still, they have been
77 cx777fan : While we're on old TAA/Australian Airlines birds, when did they get rid of the last 727? I certainly don't recall ever seeing or flying one in QF live
78 jetfuel : The 727 was gone before the QF buyout so they never made it to QF. Last Flight was December 31, 1992 with VH-TBR. after 12 years service. The 727 was
79 vhqpa : Last TN 727 was VH-TBR according to Airliner List it was withdrawn from service 31/12/1992 so the closest QF ever came to operating 727's was contrac
80 brad330 : JAL's daily BNE-NRT service will cease from October 1st. Is there any plans of QF taking over this route in the future or restarting BNE-CNS-NRT. DJ's
81 vhqpa : Probably not on the QF end those flights are geared towards inbound tourism QF can cater to the market better by offering TYO/OSA-CNS-(AYQ-SYD)-OOL-T
82 brad330 : JQ should consider OOL-AYQ
83 ZuluAlpha : That's an interesting point IMO. JQ opperates, as a low cost, to tourist destinations (PPP, HTI). I'm surprised JQ haven't taken over from QF for AYQ
84 ditzyboy : I have been told by both JQ and QF pilots that the 320 is not suitable for AYQ-East Coast. I heard the runway is too narrow for the 320. In a previou
85 RobMEL : Unless Im misunderstanding you, that can't be right...JQ fly their A320's MEL-DRW do they not? I have no evidence to back myself up (only hearsay and
86 vhtje : I wonder if anyone can help me with the following query (apologies Moderators if this is the wrong forum) I am getting my elderly father and sister ov
87 JQflightie : i think you would be better off doing LHR-SIN-BNE-CNS it would be a much more comfortable journey for him... and also.. the terminal in DRW when the
88 ANstar : Have you looked at Cathay Pacific. He could easily fly CNS-HKG-LHR and that way there is only 1 transit stop (HKG). I believe it only operates 3 time
89 vhtje : Hi JQflightie, the routing I am looking at is the other way around, CNS > LHR. I like the NRT thought, but my father (who is 89 and fought in WW2)
90 NZ107 : I guess it depends on how tall they are. If they're tall, it could be a problem. Taking Air NZ CNS-AKL-LAX/HKG-LHR could be another alternative but i
91 thegeek : Sorry, you can do that with CX too. The BNE terminal change is a pain, especially that it funnels you on to a train running only every half hour but
92 NZ107 : I know, I was just putting the option out there in addition to Cathay, which IMO would still be the far easiest option.
93 Post contains links DJ748 : It's every half hour during off-peak and on weekends, but peak times on weekdays it runs every 15 to 20 minutes. They have introduced new peak-time s
94 qfatwa : At least one QF A380 now has very large red writing on the underbelly - arrived SYD approx 1130 today [21Sept]. Could not see actual words. Probably d
95 AJ : VH-OQB. Last plan was for it to depart to LAX as QF11. There is a photo elsewhere on the web.
96 jetfuel : The CX CNS-HKG-LHR is definitely the least stressful and easiest flight
97 thegeek : Yes, Ok if you happen to be doing the trip in the 4 hours/weekday that this applies then it's less bad.
98 RyanairGuru : This is now the standard transfer procedure for QF. On all my flights into BNE since July (?) there's been an announcement telling passengers with in
99 Post contains images MilesDependent : Again, I have no actual evidence except my statistically insignificant experience on ONE flight! However, on said flight about 2 years ago, the J cab
100 pugsley : A question from a previous thread was "Will Qantas upgrade any of the 767's?" Well, today it was announced to staff that some 767 GE's will get a cabi
101 smi0006 : This is good news indeed, I would imagine that if there is even a long term plan to refit some of the 767s then we will see the 738s eventually fitte
102 DJ748 : Don't worry, I have a dislike for the Airtrain too - generally can't access it when I fly the most - 6am flights out of BNE, 8.30pm arrivals into BNE
103 NZ107 : Just out of curiosity, what's the walk like between the domestic and international terminals with luggage? Is it worth saving $5?
104 DJ748 : They both quite literally drop you just outside each of the terminals. I've used the train twice to the international terminal now for a 10am flight
105 jetfuel : Its several kilometres, not feasible to walk. Its a ridiculous set up in reality
106 thegeek : I second this. Why is the International terminal past the south end of the N-S runway? Should be adjacent to the domestic one. That could also shorte
107 IndianicWorld : Its airport planning gone mad lol
108 Post contains images 747m8te : Im 2m tall and flew over with CX to HKG in Y on monday...I love the shell seat...best thing for tall people as you don't get passengers reclining bac
109 NZ107 : Ok, thanks for that. Might just pay the $5 unwillingly.. I'll see how I'm feeling! 2km shouldn't be too unbearable at 10am in January? Or have they d
110 JQflightie : If your travelling onto another QF International, QF Codeshare or JQ International flight im sure the transfer is actually free... you just have to g
111 NZ107 : Too bad I'm not! Flying QF domestic but NZ international for the 77W inaugural (fingers crossed it doesn't change from the current date) and the 744
112 DJ748 : That's good to hear - on my upcoming trip to New Zealand at the end of the year, I'm connecting through AKL on my way to WLG. Along those lines, I'm
113 NZ107 : If the weather's nice, go for a walk between the terminals - it's much more satisfying! It's not too far, shouldn't take longer than 10 minutes. I hi
114 ditzyboy : I was talking about the 320s possibly having restricted performance out of AYQ due to runway length etc. As a domestic flight attendant I worked the
115 Post contains links tayser : http://www.theage.com.au/business/re...lueetihad-link-20100923-15nij.html Regulator approves Virgin Blue-Etihad link September 23, 2010 - 9:43AM Austr
116 thegeek : Not sure why. AYQ has a 2599m runway. Plenty long enough for a narrow body, even at maximum weight. Perhaps the heat and elevation force a power redu
117 sydscott : Good news for DJ and entirely expected. You would expect this to be given final clearance when it comes back to the ACCC. Good to see the ACCC also b
118 mariner : Once again, I am confused by the ACCC, just as I was with Air New Zealand/Virgin Blue deal and - most particularly - with the Sydney Airport regional
119 sydscott : What's to be confused about? Etihad/DJ propose increasing services between Australia and the Middle East/Europe so their alliance gets the green ligh
120 mariner : I know what they said. I don't believe that the fairly minimal percentage increase that the airport requested was "gouging" anyone and I thought the
121 Post contains links PA515 : Photo of VA's 5th 77W VH-VPH close to rollout on http://kpae.blogspot.com Looks like the existing colour scheme on the tail. PA515[Edited 2010-09-23 0
122 BNE : Brisbane Airport from domestic to international is just a bit too far to walk, so for $5.00 take the train. Not sure what Brisbane planners were thin
123 Post contains images IndianicWorld : It was a strange move to place them so far apart, but the BNE International terminal is far and away the best terminal facility in this country. Atle
124 AusA380 : Although ADL is one of the smaller terminals, the design of it I think is the most innovative, being able to swing gates for domestic or internationa
125 IndianicWorld : I agree in that regard, but BNE International has so much height and space and truely represents that tripical type feel that Queensland is. ADL and
126 747m8te : Well atleast they have plenty of space to expand their terminals for future growth....MEL is screwed in that area without building entire new termina
127 sydscott : Not really. If you're a monopoly you can't just raise your prices when you feel like it if the cost of providing the services hasn't risen. So the AC
128 mariner : I don't think once in ten years is "when you feel like it" but clearly we have a different view of these things. mariner
129 Rotation : Actually you can - it's one of the key economic principles of monopolies. Monopolies are designed to make maximum profits, and so doing set prices ab
130 sydscott : Well you can't because we have the ACCC here to say no where it is not justified. In this case the cost of providing the services has not risen enoug
131 Post contains links and images mariner : It is my understanding that the cost of providing the service may have risen, and that the ACCC accepted this. But I see the Commissioner is flexing
132 Post contains links and images tayser : Dunno bout you, but I see MEL's future pretty damn bright (without rose petal glasses)... No separate passenger terminals, with all additions being s
133 smi0006 : It was confirmed in Travel Weekly last week that AI is still going ahead with it's plans however has pushed the start date back to the 20th of Novemb
134 jetfuel : Somebody told me that a DJ 737 was damaged at MEL in a pushback accident this week, but I don't know anything more. Anybody know anything more. My sou
135 TruemanQLD :
136 jetfuel : At least Virgin Blue are looking after pax, even offering hotels to stranded pax. Other airlines would never do that
137 Post contains links TruemanQLD : Taking alook at the Sydney Airport Departures: http://www.sydneyairport.com.au/SACL...results=1000&carrier=Virgin%20Blue Most flights past 9am are
138 thegeek : Don't they have an obligation, and more than the moral one?
139 Rotation : I doubt Tiger do anything like that. My best friend and his fiancee went on a surprise weekend away, and Tiger canceled their MEL-SYD flight, the bes
140 TruemanQLD : Is the Virgin Blue debacle still going? Looking at OOL departures, every DJ flight is delayed by atleast 30mins. Same with all DJ flights from SYD. Ho
141 qfatwa : I have a role at Sydney Airport Domestic on Sundays. A week ago [Sun 19th], Tiger cancelled a Melbourne flight and offered accommodation and costs to
142 ZuluAlpha : I have seen in QF Schedules it's QF30 LHR / HKG / MEL has been retimed to be a late pm departure from Monday 28March. I wonder if it is as simple as t
143 tayser : Thank god the inbound international arrivals section is getting a capacity increase at MEL.
144 smi0006 : Sadly it will according to the Melbourne airport website only be opened in December next year : ( The sooner the better!
145 aerokiwi : Whoever runs the airport has made the walk as difficult and unpleasant as possible. the footpath literally disappears about a third of the way from t
146 Post contains links tayser : So what's the go with Virgin and Navataire? Saw this on the breaking news feed on The Aus: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...ports/story-e6frg90f
147 ZuluAlpha : Also today, DJ were looking at chartering a QF 763 for the day to help pick up some of the slack. Thogh I do not know if it went ahead, QF had too ma
148 anstar : Stupid decision by the previous management..... Should have gone Amadeus for both Virgin Blue AND V Australia rather than split them across 2 GDS
149 Zkpilot : Crews either operate (LAX-Oz or AKL-SYD on A332) or dead-head into Oz ports. Even with those costs of deadheading/accomodation etc AKL crew are still
150 aerokiwi : I think Melbourne's weakness is in its constrained international terminal. In that 30-year plan, there seems to be a vry large provision for Air Serv
151 Quokka : Sorry, it is late at night and (after a glass or two of cabernet shiraz) I am confused. Here in Perth we are moving towards a long-awaited relocating
152 aerokiwi : I'm referring to the 30 year masterplan. Not a whole lot of room for growth for international gates. The part I'm referring to is the blue square bet
153 Quokka : Agreed in the main and I thank you for your reply. In PER we have been discussing a link between international and domestic for some years and to see
154 Post contains links sydscott : In news from the IASC the new Indonesia Capacity has been allocated as follows; Qantas Airways 1,226 seats - (enough for 3 additonal PER-DPS, 2 additi
155 Post contains images NZ107 : Wow. That's impressive. I wonder if it's in part to avoid another EK407 in the future? I guess we'll have to get used to long take off rolls then.. F
156 tayser : There would be absolutely nothing worse than to split terminals up at MEL. Christ, one of the (many) reasons everyone loathes connecting in SYD is be
157 Post contains links and images qf175 : Some Brisbane news.. Air India Air India operated a special charter flight from Delhi into Brisbane yesterday (Wednesday 29 September) with 777-300ER
158 Post contains images Glasgow : Hi All, First time poster on the Australian thread Does anyone know what 744 varient will operate Saturday's QF127 SYD-HKG flight? And maybe QF29 HKG-
159 aerokiwi : Not if it's done correctly, which is my point. With a reasonable transport link (inter-terminal monorail or an extension of a train link), it's no bi
160 tayser : your definition of "doing it properly" is obviously very different - nothing beats having the entrances/exits to each terminal within 5 minutes walk o
161 Post contains images sydscott : If you're transferring from Qantas to Qantas Sydney is pretty easy.
162 aerokiwi : Apparently so. With the number of gates it looks like they'll have for international (potentially including the current Virgin pier), I don't think i
163 TN486 : Correct me if I am wrong, when Tulla first opened, yes it was. T1 was known as the TAA terminal, T2 was the international terminal, and T3 was the An
164 Zkpilot : That blue square is ATC, crashfire etc. I don't know how much growth you think MEL will need... MEL is at the bottom of the world... it is NOT used f
165 Post contains images Airbusa322 : Tiger will be launching their new membership club today, "Stripes by Tiger Airways", $30 for a year. Will be enhanced alot more over the coming year,
166 tayser : Outbound it's fairly seamless. Inbound - anything but, especially when the international flight is delayed.
167 Aussie_ : Looks like the V Australia flights to AUH are in the system for booking, including VA codeshares on EY services from Australia and some European servi
168 Post contains images PITrules : I'm not sure what your basing that all on. Looking at the 30 year plan the terminal will have a large extension to the south. Who's to say that will
169 sydscott : Who on earth would want to earn rewards from them? I don't know. I've done it a few times and not had a problem. The last time I connected from LAX t
170 TruemanQLD : It is almost definitely a 747-400 (not ER). Is that what you wanted to know?
171 thegeek : I think he was more likely asking about internal config. Which is likely 4 class Kangaroo config (smaller J section) at a guess. Not too sure how man
172 Airbusa322 : well that was my first impression. Really, how much cheaper can their fares really go? Most of the smaller routes really hover around the $15-$30 mar
173 Post contains images Glasgow : Sorry should've made that more clear. Indeed, I was looking for what internal config it would be. Thanks for your replies. This is my first decent tr
174 qantas747 : I think the MEL expansion plans look fantastic and take into account enough future growth. The issue of crossing over runways, I would think, is becau
175 Post contains images tayser : Another thing which I find interesting on the ultimate plan... two large green blobs: to the north of the 9L/27R, and one to the west of 16R/34L "Avia
176 gemuser : There would be several practical problems with this proposal. 1) Customs would be difficult about it. You would still require a sterile area for both
177 DJMEL : Yes, I can confirm that flights for V Australia are now on sale for AUH (VA 29 SYD/AUH and VA 30 AUH/SYD) the inaugraul flight is on 24th of February
178 Post contains images Zkpilot : Or a very efficient use of concrete if you think about it... less concrete required overall. I think what you mean though is that it is not 2 pairs o
179 PITrules : There is nothing wrong with having crosswind runways, and I realize the weather in Melbourne changes rapidly ("4 seasons in a day"). So I fully under
180 tayser : from Part B of the masterplan: going by that I take it, at the earliest, we're going to see the development application & all associated planning
181 TruemanQLD : That seams like alot of time on the ground. 11 hours 5mins in AUH and then assuming the plane turns around to go back to AUH, another 8hours 50mins.
182 anstar : If it arrives at 715 it may fly to LA ?? But I agree that the utilisation seems pretty poor - esp as the planes will also sit on the ground at LAX fo
183 alangirvan : VA could do flights which leave Eastern Australia mid afternoon (like they do here) or they could have flights which leave SYD at about 9pm and arrive
184 Post contains links pheynix : Anyone know whats going on at DJ? Seems on Wednesday 6th they are "returning to their primary operating system" and thus will be cancelling flights an
185 DJMEL : Yes we are going manual this Wednesday as move off the Back-up system and back onto the Primary system.......Hope this clears up the matter - If You a
186 6thfreedom : It's complementing the EY services on days they don't operate. the schedule has nothing to do with utlisation.. it's all about connections. EY curren
187 Airbusa322 : Tiger already dumped 1 daily AVV-SYD before it has even begun so essentially just 1 daily now. Really shows how low yielded Avalon has become, totally
188 BNE : I guess Strategic sees a market for flights to Phuket; V Australia are currently flying to Phuket at the moment. Disappointing that there is no longe
189 Post contains images 747m8te : And considering V Australia are pulling out of the Phuket market, might be a good gap to fill for Strategic with better sized A330s for the route
190 ZuluAlpha : 21 Years the JAL Service has opperated. between the two cities
191 TruemanQLD : I dont think (and hope not) that Jetstar will move JQ 11 & 12 to BNE. As far as I know it has been going well at OOL (Anyone have any official fi
192 brad330 : I was just reading Australian Aviation Magazine and in one of the articles it said that QF are returning to HTI... Looking at the schedules this is no
193 Post contains images JQflightie : HTI, LST and OOL aparently, yours truely operated a LST-MEL flight the other month... 738 i hope we go back to HTI... i think the market is deffinate
194 Post contains links pugsley : I've also heard DPS should be added to that list. As for the LST-MEL flight, that would have been when an AFL match was playing in LST, it happens re
195 Post contains links JQflightie : Ive heard many things on the rumour mill... PHE/KTA - SIN, for the mining and gas projects happening up there. DPS to rtn, aparently there is more gr
196 boof : Some Facts & Rumours that I heard from a DJ Group staff member the other day, I'll start with the rumours as they are the juicy bits: Rumours: * S
197 tayser : just bite the bullet and go with Virgin Pacific, DJ - it's more a truer reflection of where you fly (i.e not just Aus). Big thumbs up re: VA-like live
198 AusA380 : I flew DJ Premium Economy SYD - MEL - SYD back in May I think and that was happening back then. If I recall there were some nice chocolates later in
199 anstar : Either would work - given the small foot print that pac blue has from NZ ie only RAR/TBU/APW I dont think it would matter too much. re uniforms - I h
200 Rotation : I agree that either would work, and my initial thought was Virgin Pacific - I think it fully encompasses the operations of the airline (Aus and NZ or
201 Westjet!Eh! : Boof...that's cool. I cannot wait to see new livery and uniform. I would prefer Virgin Pacific because it has a big bro who is Virgin Atlantic. I am n
202 zkpilot : VS are also getting new uniforms so perhaps they might all be aligned. I have a friend who has tried on the new VA uniform... I think the whole busin
203 SXI899 : IATA allows for controlled duplicates of existing two-letter codes, but VASP is long gone anyway, so VP should be available.
204 anstar : Really? First I have heard of it. I have friends flying with VS and when they have asked about a new uniform they have been told nothing is planned a
205 Airbusa322 : Well I can assure you that my VA flight on Monday, they were still wanting cash for the second drink. Newspaper also included now. Full service? The
206 747m8te : Fares to go up to Qantas levels? if you have looked at the main city routes now and in the past, in many cases they were equal to Qantas on fares any
207 Post contains images aerokiwi : Emergency facilities are easily moved and it's only designated ATC for the time being. Easily relocated. Recent growth alongside prospects. No one re
208 alangirvan : This is right. Going back to 2004 when I was living in Canberra, and wanting flights to MEL, I always looked at DJ, and I always found a better fare
209 mariner : Anyone have any clues as to how tiny Sharp Airlines is doing at Avalon? Or even at Essendon? mariner
210 PITrules : Actually my comments (reply #168) were directed at your notion that MEL is somehow physically constrained if the need arises to increase int'l gates,
211 anstar : Was this on the LAX route? I would expect if it was HKT they may still charge due to the "leisure" nature.
212 RyanairGuru : Oh so true.... With a couple of notable exceptions (I once paid $69 all in CBR - BNE) on the routes I want to fly (basically CBR - BNE with the occas
213 thegeek : If DJ are positioning themselves more upmarket, then are they going to get more reasonable check in rules? Even if the service/food was on par with QF
214 anstar : What rules dont you like?
215 thegeek : 30 minute check in even without checking bags. This is 15 minutes on QF and used to be 5 minutes. I think 10 minutes would be about right. Can't get
216 ThunderB : Flights close minus 20 at DJ, they have from day 1. The intins say 30 mins before so ensure they can process the last pax before the closure. Just lik
217 747m8te : No...that would be insane...most of the pax should be on board at that time...not checking in...how do you expect the pax to get from checkin, throug
218 RyanairGuru : Don't QF say exactly the same thing? I'm sure I've read that check-in closes at 30 minutes (even though it doesn't). It's so that people turning up a
219 747m8te : Also by -10 airlines need to start identifying possible fail to board pax, as they need to start offloading bags...If a pax fails to show for a fligh
220 smi0006 : This flight closure thing brings up some interesting Qs for me, who generates the QF domestic loadplans and sheets? or are theyvall sent by ACARS? At
221 ThunderB : Like DJ, QF pre allocate pax for load requirements via the Zones. Dispatcher/Load controller will already have an idea on what is required for each fl
222 pugsley : At QF domestic (mainline), boarding is meant to commence at -20 min for all aircraft types 734, 73H, 767, 332, 333. To ensure this can be done, Fligh
223 Airbusa322 : All flights between Thur-Mon go out full, and when one is cancelled it doesn't leave alot of room for rebookings. 10xMEL-SYD would work Fri/Sun/Mon e
224 JQflightie : well i dont knw how this slipped through our radar guys and girls.... but Strategic (VC) are starting a couple of new routes, BNE-TSV will operate twi
225 ZuluAlpha : The QF policy is that checking in with bags closes at -30 and checking in without bags closes at -15
226 boof : I should have mentioned that the discussion on full service on VA was centred around LAX and AUH flights, so I'm taking a punt that the NAN and HKT f
227 eta unknown : GA tried TSV-DPS years ago... didn't last long. Good luck to Strategic- desperate times call for depserate measures!
228 TN486 : Just visited their website and it confirms MEB.
229 Post contains links mariner : Good to hear, thanks a lot. There are a couple of interesting things on their website - they're starting non-stops Hamilton to ADL as well. http://sh
230 Rotation : I concur - when I flew MEL-BNE in July, I had a single visit pass to the Lounge, and they offered to move me to an earlier flight on a Friday night;
231 Post contains links thegeek : That doesn't line up with my experience. Until about a year ago, there was no real difference between DJ and QF on this point. However, QF appear to
232 TN486 : Please use Thread #41 for further discussion, cheers.
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