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Qantas A380 In FRA  
User currently offlinesydaircargo From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 240 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8088 times:

Hi,

QF A380 just arrived in FRA for MX at the LH A380 Hangar.

anybody knows why at LH and not at htere home base in SYD
did not even come in as a regular flight as far as i know.

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User currently offlinenicholaschee From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8049 times:

Lufthansa Technik does the C-Checks for QF's A380s.

User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 63
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7949 times:

Quoting nicholaschee (Reply 1):
Lufthansa Technik does the C-Checks for QF's A380s.

Its time for a C check already?? Blimey. How time flies.

A C check is quite an undertaking for an A380!


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 3913 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7083 times:

Quoting sydaircargo (Thread starter):
QF A380 just arrived in FRA for MX at the LH A380 Hangar.

I would be under the impression this aircraft operated a regular QF31 service and was ferried LHR-FRA...?

EK413


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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2314 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6939 times:

Pictures of the landing can be seen here: http://fraaviation.forumsfree.de/movements-fotos-f3/14092010-t4067.htm

Strange that they gave her a water cannon salute. As far as I can see from the pics it went straight to the maintenance facilities, so the only persons enjoying this show were the pilots (???). On the other hand - currently, we have enough water near Frankfurt, why not waste it in water cannon salute.

User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1007 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6814 times:

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 4):
Strange that they gave her a water cannon salute. As far as I can see from the pics it went straight to the maintenance facilities, so the only persons enjoying this show were the pilots


Those salutes are made for the benefit of the airline, or in special cases a crew member, not the freight - be it self-loading or palletised.

[Edited 2010-09-16 08:33:40]


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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2314 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6723 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 5):
Those salutes are made for the benefit of the airline

Yes, sure. But on a ferry flight for maintenance purposes?

User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6674 times:

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 6):
But on a ferry flight for maintenance purposes?

Maybe if it is the first ferry flight there for maintenance?


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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9614 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6529 times:

Wow, QF A380 and National 744 in FRA today.

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10243 posts, RR: 40
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6501 times:

Thanks for the link. The A380 has become a common sighting.
Some nice pictures on there!

  


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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3035 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6396 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 2):
Its time for a C check already?? Blimey. How time flies.

A C check is quite an undertaking for an A380!

It appears to be -OQA, the first 380 delivered in October of '08 or so. She's almost two years old.


No one cares when your next flight is....
User currently offlinemwhcvt From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 573 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6147 times:

Would it really already be time for such a heavy check on A380, at what stages in airframe life are the different heavy checks sheduled, as in number of cycles and or hours, as I cannot recollect any threads on other A380's going for Checks such as this and there are of course a select number of Frames that were operating long before this aircraft.

MWHCVT


Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)
User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 4790 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6024 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 7):
Maybe if it is the first ferry flight there for maintenance?

Yes, I'm guessing first Qantas A380 landing there.


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User currently offlinePanman From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Aug 1999, 789 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5540 times:

Quoting mwhcvt (Reply 11):
Would it really already be time for such a heavy check on A380, at what stages in airframe life are the different heavy checks sheduled

There are various C checks, not all are heavy. Originally this one was scheduled to take 6 days if I remember correctly. We all laughed when we heard this, as it's going to be the first one that LHT have carried out, so no way was that going to be the case. Now it's due to take a month and we still think this is being optimistic, though a crew of LAMEs and AMEs have been sent from Aus to help out.... At least all those cabin items will be sorted out......

Quoting EK413 (Reply 3):

I would be under the impression this aircraft operated a regular QF31 service and was ferried LHR-FRA...?

Correct. When complete however, if I remember correctly, it's going back to SYD (not sure if via SIN, if it does, it's not to collect pax) and not to LHR.

pAnmAn

User currently offlinefcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5155 times:

It was from Heathrow, only the 2 crew on board!

User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1686 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5019 times:
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I know that Qantas used to operate a service into Frankfurt with the 747, could they not have just switched to the A380 for one flight and then it would have been there for the maintenance anyway?


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User currently offlineAirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 612 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4855 times:
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Excuse my ignorance, but what actions are performed on a C check?

User currently offlineBA174 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 718 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4688 times:

Will QF ever do their own A380 C checks?

It seems that QF are fast becoming a virtual airline built up of various subsidiaries and outsourced work. I can imagine BA taking over with QFs A380 work soon as WIllie Walsh wants to get third party contracts as well as maintaining their own fleet. Ontop of that it would get their engineers trained up on the A380 prior to their own fleet arriving in 2012. I can't see QF staying with LH because they are in *A

User currently offlineSwallow From Uganda, joined Jul 2007, 544 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4660 times:

Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 16):
what actions are performed on a C check?

Checkout this thread in TechOps

A Plane Arriving - Ready For Its C-Check... (by VC10er Aug 2 2010 in Tech Ops)


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User currently offlineFlyLonghaul From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4537 times:

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 15):
I know that Qantas used to operate a service into Frankfurt with the 747, could they not have just switched to the A380 for one flight and then it would have been there for the maintenance anyway?

My guess would be the issue of the return flight. If VH-OQA Took passengers to Frankfurt instead of the 744 for that flight, then there would be no aircraft to operate the return flight. Where as taking the aircraft from LHR leaves multiple other flights that QF operate back to AUS, plus OW options with BA and CX.
Anybody in the know can correct me if im wrong.
 


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User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1686 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4387 times:
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Quoting FlyLonghaul (Reply 19):

Sounds reasonable!


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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 3913 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4166 times:

Quoting Panman (Reply 13):
Correct. When complete however, if I remember correctly, it's going back to SYD (not sure if via SIN, if it does, it's not to collect pax) and not to LHR.

Interesting... So the aircraft will ferry back to SYD via more than likely SIN empty... Sounds like an expensive C-Check...

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 15):
I know that Qantas used to operate a service into Frankfurt with the 747, could they not have just switched to the A380 for one flight and then it would have been there for the maintenance anyway?
Quoting FlyLonghaul (Reply 19):
My guess would be the issue of the return flight. If VH-OQA Took passengers to Frankfurt instead of the 744 for that flight, then there would be no aircraft to operate the return flight. Where as taking the aircraft from LHR leaves multiple other flights that QF operate back to AUS, plus OW options with BA and CX.
Anybody in the know can correct me if im wrong.

Thanks for answering the question... I was just about to quote...

Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 16):
Excuse my ignorance, but what actions are performed on a C check?

Basically a C check is a visual check of specific systems and parts to check for wear and corrosion, etc.

A D check is the heaviest check and pretty much takes the entire airplane apart and puts it back together while inspecting it and replacing damaged and worn parts.

C checks happen about every 12-18 months depending on the flight hours and cycles since it's previous C, and a D check is every 4-5 years, also depending on hours and cycles.

Quoting BA174 (Reply 17):
I can't see QF staying with LH because they are in *A

I think not... Why would this be an issue considering LH specialise in A380 maintenance?

EK413


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User currently offlinejsoprano From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3834 times:

Quoting BA174 (Reply 17):
I can't see QF staying with LH because they are in *A

I doubt that, airline maintenance does not follow commercial alliances. It is all about expertise, costs, time etc. In the case of QF and LH Technik, both even have a joint-venture company with branches in HAM and MEL:

http://www.lufthansa-technik.com/app...Basics/Jet_Turbine_Services_US.xml

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