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Steve Jobs Stopped At KIX For Carrying Weapons?  
User currently offlineflykev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 11529 times:
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Apple Inc. Chief Executive Officer Steve Jobs said he’ll never come back to Japan after officials at an airport barred him from taking Ninja throwing stars aboard his private plane, SPA! magazine reported in its latest issue.


(Full article: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...rt-over-ninja-stars-spa-says.html)

Apparently this happened back in July.
I personally feel that his comments of "never return to Japan" seem a little extreme, given that airport security were just doing their job.

What's your opinions?

Kev.


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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 11482 times:

Quoting flykev (Thread starter):
I personally feel that his comments of "never return to Japan" seem a little extreme

And that he was the keynote speaker at Macworld Japan in Tokyo for many years, plus Japan was (not sure if it still is?) Apple's biggest market outside the US. He'll be back. Trust me.



"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
User currently offlineiliribdl From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 11402 times:

Why does he need ninja throwing stars on the plane? Weird.....


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User currently offlineMadDogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 401 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 11377 times:

But if it's his private plane then why should it matter what he carries onboard, as long as it's not something incindiary or catastrophic?

User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7548 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11079 times:

Quoting iliribdl (Reply 2):

Why does he need ninja throwing stars on the plane? Weird.....

I'd guarantee they were a gift from a business associate. They could be made of solid gold for all we know. I promise you they weren't the $1 variety.

Quoting MadDogJT8D (Reply 3):
But if it's his private plane then why should it matter what he carries onboard, as long as it's not something incindiary or catastrophic?

I agree. That's ridiculous. It's his plane. Is he going to kill his own pilot and crash his own plane?


User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1880 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10977 times:
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Quoting enilria (Reply 4):
I agree. That's ridiculous. It's his plane. Is he going to kill his own pilot and crash his own plane?

Airport rules are THE rules, no matter who you think you are.

Taking your logic why stop flight crew taking weapons onto 'their' aircraft.
Are they going to kill themselves or crash their own plane?

I have personally seen a widebody captain having a single safety razor blade taken off him at BOS. This was a few years ago but the razor would be inside the captains bag inside the locked cockpit door.
Should he have been allowed to breach the regs? The rules are often asinine but they are THE RULES. No exceptions.





Maybe the Japanses security guy was angry at the crappy signal on his iPhone 4!!!!!!!!

[Edited 2010-09-14 08:56:10]

User currently offlinedl767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 10748 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 6):
Taking your logic why stop flight crew taking weapons onto 'their' aircraft.
Are they going to kill themselves or crash their own plane?

It's a little different considering they don't own the plane, and it's a commercial flight with other people who could use those objects as a weapon. Steve owns the plane, it's a private flight.


User currently offlinebonusonus From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 10666 times:

What are the rules concerning security screenings for private flights? Is it different in Japan than it is in the US?

User currently offlinedl767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10460 times:

Story is fake

http://www.9to5mac.com/26457/apple-c...mments-on-steve-jobs-trip-to-japan


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10275 times:

Quoting dl767captain (Reply 9):
Story is fake

http://www.9to5mac.com/26457/apple-c...japan

Another link, where Steve Jobs calls the alleged incident "pure fiction": http://www.nypost.com/p/news/interna...bring_ninja_gz7MaMSaI1rbBypGWO0mQP



"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
User currently offline0NEWAIR0 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9174 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 10):
Another link, where Steve Jobs calls the alleged incident "pure fiction":

He also said, initially at least, that the iPhone 4 antenna issues were "pure fiction" too  

(...not a direct quote of course)



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User currently offlinecentralma From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9102 times:

The Bloomberg article has evidently been updated (or most posting didn't read it).

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...ort-over-ninja-stars-spa-says.html

Bloomberg is only saying the stuff appeared in SPA! Magazine, not separately being reported by Bloomberg (except for Apple's denial followup).

From the article:
"The airport doesn’t have separate boarding arrangements for private-jet users"


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20238 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7779 times:

Quoting mrskyguy (Reply 11):

In all fairness, it's just as dangerous for the people BELOW the plane if something happened, and the costs of rescue/cleanup if nobody was injured.

If he's flying KIX-SFO (or to Moffett), then there won't be many people below the plane.


User currently offlinecentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7503 times:

Quoting centralma (Reply 11):
Bloomberg is only saying the stuff appeared in SPA! Magazine

SPA is like the National Inquirer. It is a tabloid aimed at lonely housewives with nothing else to do but gossip. push each other to get the time sale at the market and deal with "the garbage they can't throw out".



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlinemd80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7082 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 5):
The rules are often asinine but they are THE RULES. No exceptions.

Have you ever heard the saying, "There's an exception for every rule"? It's true you know.  

Don't confuse a rule with a law. One can be broken, and the other only bent.


User currently offlineflykev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7062 times:
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As the news story has since become apparent that it is false; there is nothing left to discuss here - therefore I am locking this topic.
Any posts appearing after this message will be deleted for housekeeping reasons only.

On behalf of the moderators;

FlyKev.



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