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New Allegiant Management Presentation Slides  
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

Allegiant is presenting at several investor conferences this week.

As part of that they have prepared new presentation slides that are available.
http://ir.allegiantair.com/common/do...2010_-_Management_Presentation.pdf

A couple of quick notes as I scan the slides:
** For financial comparison purposes with other companies they now include Expedia and RCL (Royal Caribbean). That ties to the view that Allegiant is a travel company first, not just an airline.

**For Q4 2010 and Q1 2011 Allegiant is providing future guidance of Scheduled ASMs - Q4 2010 +13 to 15%, Q1 2011 +2 to 5% and Scheduled departures - Q4 2010 +14 to 16%, Q1 2011 +3 to 6%

I have not listened yet to webcasts from the conferences to see if there is anything I pick up.

But the WSJ blog ( online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100916-708674.html ) is mentioning a couple of things from the UBM conference in New York this week:

** 757s will take 18 months to fully integrate into the fleet

** Allegiant is still looking at deciding to keep purchasing MDs as they come on the market or switching to buying 737-800 or A320 aircraft. This is really not new info, Allegiant has said several times over the last few years that they continue to crunch numbers on various options.

** Supposedly Allegiant just bought a 757 to break up for parts (that goes along with their breaking up of MDs for parts to keep their own costs low, Allegiant is also now one of the largest sellers of used MD parts in the marketplace)


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User currently offlineN471wn From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1516 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3803 times:
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Quoting FATFlyer (Thread starter):
** Supposedly Allegiant just bought a 757 to break up for parts (that goes along with their breaking up of MDs for parts to keep their own costs low,

This would be surprising----source?


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

Quoting N471wn (Reply 1):
This would be surprising----source?

About the 757? It is in the online WSJ for subscribers at online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100916-708674.html. (a.net isn't liking it as a link)

If you mean about breaking up MDs, G4 has mentioned that several times over the years in financials and in Conference Calls. They buy MDs that they have no intention of flying just to use the parts.

[Edited 2010-09-16 16:59:54]


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User currently offlinealoha73g From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2355 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3473 times:

They mentioned an average stage length for Hawaii flights of 2866 miles...sounds like they're planning to go past the coast, atleast on a few flights.

Also specified 217 seats....so it won't be a total sardine can.

Any information on where crews will be based? I would think HNL so they can serve mainland cities without Allegiant crew bases as turns (continue to avoid layover/hotel costs). EUG, FAT, SCK, etc 2, 3 or 4 times per week.

Turns should work for F/As, might not for pilots....could they could staff an extra pilot to extend duty time?

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[Edited 2010-09-16 18:44:51]


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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3419 times:

Quoting aloha73g (Reply 3):
They mentioned an average stage length for Hawaii flights of 2866 miles...sounds like they're planning to go past the coast, atleast on a few flights.

Yep COS is one on the short list for the future.

Quoting aloha73g (Reply 3):
Any information on where crews will be based? I would think HNL so they can serve mainland cities without Allegiant crew bases as turns (continue to avoid layover/hotel costs). EUG, FAT, SCK, etc 2, 3 or 4 times per week.

Last I heard it was going to be a HNL base. They have also been doing hiring in HNL for maintenance.

Quoting aloha73g (Reply 3):
Turns should work for F/As, might not for pilots....could they could staff an extra pilot to extend duty time?

Rumors I've heard is the discussion was going on between the company and pilots about whether it would be an augmented crew or two crews.



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User currently offlineeta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2073 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3370 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Thread starter):
** Supposedly Allegiant just bought a 757 to break up for parts (that goes along with their breaking up of MDs for parts to keep their own costs low, Allegiant is also now one of the largest sellers of used MD parts in the marketplace)

Comes close to when NW bought a Swissair 747-300 for spare parts!


User currently offlinelucky777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

Quoting aloha73g (Reply 3):
Also specified 217 seats....so it won't be a total sardine can.

I don't know....when Delta ran SONG 757's in an all-coach configuration, they held 199. If Allegiant is going with 217, that means they've somehow managed to squeeze in 3 ADDITIONAL rows. Sounds rather tight to me.


User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3009 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2924 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Thread starter):
** Allegiant is still looking at deciding to keep purchasing MDs as they come on the market or switching to buying 737-800 or A320 aircraft. This is really not new info, Allegiant has said several times over the last few years that they continue to crunch numbers on various options.

Here's desperately hoping G4 gets a new a/c in the fleet that can do East Coast-LAS reliably, and soon!



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User currently offlinealitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4742 posts, RR: 45
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2908 times:

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 6):

I don't know....when Delta ran SONG 757's in an all-coach configuration, they held 199. If Allegiant is going with 217, that means they've somehow managed to squeeze in 3 ADDITIONAL rows. Sounds rather tight to me.

DLs song config was done with non-slimline (of the newer variety at least) seats with 33-34" pitch.

Take away an inch or two of pitch and add slimlines and you can easily fit the incremental 18 seats (3 rows of 6....)

Not hard to see how.



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User currently offlinetristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3981 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 6):
when Delta ran SONG 757's in an all-coach configuration, they held 199. If Allegiant is going with 217, that means they've somehow managed to squeeze in 3 ADDITIONAL rows. Sounds rather tight to me

The European charter config was usually 229 seats.
and they flew that on 6 hr sectors from Scandinavia to the Canaries.
and that was 10 years ago B4 slimline seats were invented!


User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3009 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2813 times:

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 6):
when Delta ran SONG 757's in an all-coach configuration, they held 199. If Allegiant is going with 217, that means they've somehow managed to squeeze in 3 ADDITIONAL rows. Sounds rather tight to me.

It could be that they plan to do like they've done/discussed on the MDs - they may remove a galley on the a/c to accomomodate at least some of the extra seats.



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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3720 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 7):
Here's desperately hoping G4 gets a new a/c in the fleet that can do East Coast-LAS reliably, and soon!

We're looking at you, FWA-LAS...



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User currently offlinemkirch72 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2796 times:

Better yet -- how about PIE-LAS? I'd like to have a non-stop option other than SW from TPA.

User currently offlineFalcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2596 times:

Should anything be read into the fact that a range map from Sanford for the 757 was shown in addition to LAS in that presentation ?


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User currently offlineclemsonaj From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2514 times:

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 7):
Here's desperately hoping G4 gets a new a/c in the fleet that can do East Coast-LAS reliably, and soon!

Him, or everyone on the east coast?


User currently offlineDualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 754 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2496 times:

Quoting alitalia744 (Reply 8):
DLs song config was done with non-slimline (of the newer variety at least) seats with 33-34" pitch.

Take away an inch or two of pitch and add slimlines and you can easily fit the incremental 18 seats (3 rows of 6....)

Not hard to see how.

Did the economics of a 5th FA have anything to do with it as well?


User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3009 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2493 times:

Quoting clemsonaj (Reply 14):
Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 7):
Here's desperately hoping G4 gets a new a/c in the fleet that can do East Coast-LAS reliably, and soon!

Him, or everyone on the east coast?

"Him"? Am I missing something??  



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User currently offlineYNGguins From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 511 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2233 times:

I would love the east coast to LAS. It makes a ton of sense.. It's Vegas!


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User currently offlinespinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1097 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

I've been hoping for SWF-LAS for a long time! I wouldn' t even mind a red eye return, I can drive back to CT easily at that time, unlike JFK where I have to battle traffic and lack of sleep.

User currently offlineflyawa From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Thread starter):
** Supposedly Allegiant just bought a 757 to break up for parts (that goes along with their breaking up of MDs for parts to keep their own costs low, Allegiant is also now one of the largest sellers of used MD parts in the marketplace)

There have been alot of upbeat releases this week beginning Monday morning from Allegiant, in what may have been very somber. Any word yet on MD parts or repairs needed for N887GA following last week's incident at LCH?



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