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UA Using A 757 BUF-ORD, Sept 19  
User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Posted (4 years 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6093 times:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL589

Wish they would bring a 757 to ROC.


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User currently offlinejcarv From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5947 times:

They used to do it always a few years back.

User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5918 times:

UA has been scheduling 757's to BUF periodically for almost two years.

User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4280 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 days ago) and read 5544 times:

You know what i find interesting is that UA sends a 757 into BUF from ORD, and AA doesn't even provide mainline service to BUF.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23021 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5149 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 5):
You know what i find interesting is that UA sends a 757 into BUF from ORD, and AA doesn't even provide mainline service to BUF.

I think a lot of people don't realize how much bigger UA is than AA in most secondary east coast markets and how that affects service patterns to ORD. This is an effect that may get even bigger post-merger. UA has had 752s into BDL essentially daily for at least 3 or 4 years, and PIT also sees daily 75s right now. Within the past 5 years, BWI had 763s scheduled on ORD-BWI.



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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4506 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4982 times:

During the middle of the 00's, US often flew A321's on the early-a.m. ROC-PHL flight during the summer season. If UA does fly a 752 to ROC, someone please get a photo!

Jim



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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4816 times:

UA also used to fly 757s back in 2007 on ORD-MHT and A319s on ORD-BTV


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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4116 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4521 times:

Once Upon a Time...
Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 6):
UA also used to fly 757s back in 2007 on ORD-MHT
Then, some Possums came along to run MHT and all we get now are RJ's.

The End.


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4512 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 7):
Then, some Possums came along to run MHT and all we get now are RJ's.

The End.

Was a sad day when that happened. Kind of like when UA suspended EWR-LHR in 2004.



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4116 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4411 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 8):
Was a sad day when that happened. Kind of like when UA suspended EWR-LHR in 2004.

LOL...I wouldn't put it on that level, but I am happy to say that I did all my business flying during the heydays at MHT and flew aboard UA 757s many times. And everything I flew on between the west coast and Chicago was a 747, 757, 767, DC-10, or a 777. So, no, I don't mind the fact that my business-travel days are behind me.

[Edited 2010-09-19 19:31:07]

[Edited 2010-09-19 19:31:40]

User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3771 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4407 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 3):
You know what i find interesting is that UA sends a 757 into BUF from ORD, and AA doesn't even provide mainline service to BUF.

Same thing in Columbus. CMH-ORD has had multiple UA mainline flights a day for years, sometimes including 757s. It's RJ heaven on the same route with AA.



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User currently offlinebonusonus From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 7):
UA also used to fly 757s back in 2007 on ORD-MHT
Then, some Possums came along to run MHT and all we get now are RJ's.

Now the only 757 we get at MHT is UPS and it both arrives and leaves in the middle of the night.


User currently offlineIcarus75 From France, joined Oct 2003, 798 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3310 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 3):
You know what i find interesting is that UA sends a 757 into BUF from ORD, and AA doesn't even provide mainline service to BUF.

A little out of topic and sorry if it has been already explain but what's the meaning of "mainline"?



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User currently offlinenqyguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3204 times:

Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 12):
A little out of topic and sorry if it has been already explain but what's the meaning of "mainline"?

Flights operated by the airline itself.

Non-mainline would be flights operated under a franchise by another operator. For example Delta Connection.


User currently offlineScotland1979 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 548 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2962 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Last April, picture taken at ORD, captured UA 757 arrived from Buffalo. It has been awhile almost 2 years.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unite...Airlines/Boeing-757-222/1684215/M/



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User currently offlinerangercarp From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2877 times:

Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 12):
A little out of topic and sorry if it has been already explain but what's the meaning of "mainline"?
Quoting nqyguy (Reply 13):
Flights operated by the airline itself.

Non-mainline would be flights operated under a franchise by another operator. For example Delta Connection.

Non-mainline flights are flown with Regional Jets or turboprops. The smallest mainline plane for US carriers is the E190, although most fly nothing smaller than A319/B737 in-house.



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User currently offlineIcarus75 From France, joined Oct 2003, 798 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2789 times:

Quoting nqyguy (Reply 13):
Flights operated by the airline itself.

Non-mainline would be flights operated under a franchise by another operator. For example Delta Connection.
Quoting rangercarp (Reply 15):
Non-mainline flights are flown with Regional Jets or turboprops. The smallest mainline plane for US carriers is the E190, although most fly nothing smaller than A319/B737 in-house.

Thanks for the clarification.
What I do not understand, is that for some people flying mainline / non-mainline seems to be a big deal.

I think, and some may correct me if I'm wrong, we do not have same concern in Europe.
Franchise flight are common (Regional or Britair for AF, Eurowings for LH....) and you have the same then for mainline (miles earned, connections.....)
is it different in the US?



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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

If the weather and my mood coincide,I might head up to BUF this weekend to ge ta pic. Have to do it on the weekend,with work and all.


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User currently offlinerangercarp From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2624 times:

Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 16):
What I do not understand, is that for some people flying mainline / non-mainline seems to be a big deal.

I think, and some may correct me if I'm wrong, we do not have same concern in Europe.
Franchise flight are common (Regional or Britair for AF, Eurowings for LH....) and you have the same then for mainline (miles earned, connections.....)
is it different in the US?

I think I can speak for most of "US" when I say, the reason a lot of people prefer mainline is the size of the plane. RJ's simply are not as comfortable as narrow body jets. Also the lack of overhead bin space resulting in "gate-checking" your carry-on bag can be a pain.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23021 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (4 years 23 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

Quoting rangercarp (Reply 18):
I think I can speak for most of "US" when I say, the reason a lot of people prefer mainline is the size of the plane.

How many passengers would prefer the back row of a 752 to the back row of a 170?



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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4506 posts, RR: 33
Reply 20, posted (4 years 23 hours ago) and read 2155 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 19):
How many passengers would prefer the back row of a 752 to the back row of a 170?

Having not sat in the back row of either, I can't speak to that specific row. In any event, that's just one row. The 170 is a very nice airplane, to be sure. But I for one want bigger metal whenever I can get it.

I don't think ROC typically gets any 757s. FedEx of course uses A300-600's at ROC, and UPS still trucks our cargo to BUF and SYR, despite ROC being a much bigger MSA than SYR.

Jim



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23021 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (4 years 23 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

Quoting DCA-ROCguy (Reply 20):
The 170 is a very nice airplane, to be sure. But I for one want bigger metal whenever I can get it.

...and that's a fair (and understandable) sentiment. But it's nonsense to pretend that all passengers or even a large majority of passengers prefer mainline narrowbodies to E-Jets. I'd expect that no more than 2/3 of passengers prefer either one.



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9642 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (4 years 23 hours ago) and read 2120 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 19):
How many passengers would prefer the back row of a 752 to the back row of a 170?

A significant number of people that the airline values the most would prefer a 757. There are 24 first class seats with a higher first class ratio to economy which is great for an upgrade. Secondly, 2x2 seating is great, but unless the plane is completely full, the last seats taken are middle seats in economy plus. Finally, 757s have ovens and mainline catering brings fresh food, like salads, sandwiches, pasta and meat on board rather than prepackaged snack boxes.

For the person in the last row of economy, they are there because they bought the cheapest ticket and probably don't care what plane they are on. There are people out there who will look for large planes, but often they are the same ones who will book on a 50 seat regional jet if the ticket is $25 less (unfortunately I myself fit in that category).



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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (4 years 22 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Quoting DCA-ROCguy (Reply 20):
I don't think ROC typically gets any 757s. FedEx of course uses A300-600's at ROC

No,we don't . Not in a long time. We do get A300-600's daily. Still hoping for a DC/MD-10. Any chance of a FX 757?



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User currently offlineexFWAOONW From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 20 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 21):
and that's a fair (and understandable) sentiment. But it's nonsense to pretend that all passengers or even a large majority of passengers prefer mainline narrowbodies to E-Jets. I'd expect that no more than 2/3 of passengers prefer either one.

I don't know about a majority, but there is a fair sized contingent of flyers out there who would drive 4 hours to ORD or 2 .5 to IND to avoid folding themselves in half to crawl into a puddle-jumper. And we didn't have any, they just assumed because UA and AA had them, NW had them, too.

[Edited 2010-09-20 13:12:42]


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23021 posts, RR: 20
Reply 25, posted (4 years 14 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 22):
There are 24 first class seats with a higher first class ratio to economy which is great for an
upgrade

I'm not sure how that relates to the airplane. I think would most would probably prefer a Privatair BBJ to an LH 346, too - but that's an example of smaller being better. Maybe more to the point, I think most UA passengers would prefer a PS 752 to a domestic 772.

It's perfectly legitimate to say that passengers prefer planes with more amenities - but that's not really an example of bigger being better. It's an example of less densely-configured being better.



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