CGKings317 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 303 posts, RR: 7 Posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2782 times:
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Announced by BC Premier Gordon Campbell at the World Route Development Forum being held at YVR:
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Statement from Mary Jordan, Chair, Board of Directors
I applaud Premier Campbell’s decision to introduce legislation that would eliminate the aviation fuel tax in British Columbia for international commercial flights. This exciting announcement surely marks a new stage of growth for our industry, particularly when coupled with the ongoing efforts of the Airport Authority’s leadership team to strengthen YVR’s position and develop Vancouver International Airport as a premier global gateway.
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Statement from Larry Berg, President and CEO
On behalf of Vancouver Airport Authority, I offer my congratulations to the Honourable Gordon Campbell, Premier of British Columbia, on his announcement tonight that he will introduce legislation to eliminate the aviation fuel tax for international commercial flights operating out of B.C.’s airports, including Vancouver International Airport (YVR). [/quote
YVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2084 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2641 times:
The new drink driving and zero tolerance speeding laws come into place tomorrow, the discussion of which is for non-av, but will certainly be a nice money spinner for the province - coincidence?
Oh yeah, and HST...
Quoting CGKings317 (Thread starter): It appears BC is being proactive to entice more flights and carriers to YVR!
I cant think of anyone that would be enticed apart from maybe VX if they are crazy enough, but I guess it would help those already here. VS is supposedly happening anyway, CZ has been on the cards for years, and nothing. AM would be logical, though AC have now stepped in first, so they probably blew the chance.
SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2588 posts, RR: 31 Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2487 times:
Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 1): anyone that would be enticed apart from maybe VX if they are crazy enough
VX went in to YYZ, which is probably even more expensive than YVR, right? I think its only a matter of time before they go for YVR. VX isn't stupid - might as well start warm markets like DFW, MCO, CUN, and SJD for now, then next summer add more cool getaways like YVR and ORD .
Now, an airline like F9 might be paying attention. YVR seemed to be an okay route for them, and with the right support and cost structure, it might just work this time. Then again, given their push into some rather interesting airports (SBA, PIE, PHF, etc.) I could see them starting up DEN-BLI to serve "Vancouver" rather than going back into YVR!
In all honesty I would think the real winner would be smaller B.C. airports like Kamloops that want to get some transborder service. Might be a great way to lure QX back!
Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
simairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 813 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2273 times:
I would view this as more of a longhaul lure. I believe SEA has had much more substantial longhaul growth than YVR in the last five years:
-CDG (Air France)
-FRA (Lufthansa)
-ICN (Asiana/Korean Air)
-KEF (Icelandair)
-KIX (Delta)
-LHR (Northwest, didn't last long)
-PEK (Delta, Hainan)
On the other hand, I know Vancouver has been growing, but I think it's been more about increased frequencies from existing carriers.
SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2588 posts, RR: 31 Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2068 times:
Quoting simairlinenet (Reply 3): SEA has had much more substantial longhaul growth than YVR in the last five years:
-CDG (Air France)
-FRA (Lufthansa)
-ICN (Asiana/Korean Air)
-KEF (Icelandair)
-KIX (Delta)
-LHR (Northwest, didn't last long)
-PEK (Delta, Hainan)
SEA is a substantially larger market though, and serves as an attractive gateway to the massive U.S. market for foreign carriers. It's also a lot cheaper to fly in and out of there . Not surprising to see them doing much better than their YVR counterparts!
Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21464 posts, RR: 24 Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1979 times:
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 4): SEA is a substantially larger market though, and serves as an attractive gateway to the massive U.S. market for foreign carriers
AC carriers a lot of passengers to/from the US via their Canadian hubs, including YVR. There's no reason why Canadian airports can't serve as attractive gateways to the US, just like US airports serve as gateways to Canada. Personally, I would much prefer to connect in Canada to a US destination than to connect at a major US hub since US pre-clearance is usually faster and more pleasant than the often long lines to clear customs/immigration in the US.
YVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2084 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1891 times:
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 2): VX went in to YYZ, which is probably even more expensive than YVR, right? I think its only a matter of time before they go for YVR. VX isn't stupid - might as well start warm markets
Well, if AS couldnt compete with UA/AC, I dont see how VX will. Bear in mind UA often use OO CR7's on LAX and SFO routes.
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 2): Now, an airline like F9 might be paying attention
Again, why will the fare any better against UA this time around? UA will receive the same saving on all their (multiple) flights too.
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5): Personally, I would much prefer to connect in Canada to a US destination than to connect at a major US hub since US pre-clearance is usually faster and more pleasant than the often long lines to clear customs/immigration in the US.
And the experience at YVR is probably better than many US airports too.
4 of which are already served from YVR for a long time, plus a 5th (CDG) on a charter basis (or 1 stop via YUL) which leaves KEF & KIX. I think many will be surprised at the international destinations served from YVR and I can think of no real missing piece in the jigsaw apart from maybe India (for which the right aircraft is not yet in airline service).
If bi-laterals ever allowed it, EK to DXB would fill a 777 no bother, but it would be to the detriment of LH, BA & KL.