TOMASKEMPNER From Mexico, joined May 2001, 389 posts, RR: 1 Posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1984 times:
I want to know why does United has so many 747-400 on its fleet.
They have, according to UA´S website 44 747-400 and about 50 777-200.
I know they use a lot of 744 in their Asian routes and also in the Europeans, but don´t UA´s European network is covered mostly by 777-200 and 767 only cities like London and Frankfurt are op. with 747-400.
LAX NRT, LAX SYD, LAX AUC all 744
SFO-NRT, SFO-KIX, SFO-PVG, SFO-HKG, SFO-SEL, SFO-TPE, SFO-SYD, all in 744
ORD-HKG, ORD-NRT ? 744
JFK-HKG = 744
Donc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1911 times:
I am not sure why so many, though I am sure well over 1/2 of them are leased from somewhere. It is amazing that no matter what route they put it on, it is usually close to full load. The 777 is a domestic inter-hub plane and is used in S. America, Hawaii, and ORD-PEK, JFK_NRT and SEA-NRT. You forgot LAX-HKG, ORD-LHR, ORD-FRA, IAD-LHR, LHR-DEL, DEL-HKG, IAD-LAX, and LAX-MEL will return. Also, there are 2 744s a day from each ORD and SFO to NRT. Hope this helps!
The Coachman From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1886 times:
The information from travel agents is that UA 847/848 LAX-MEL will NOT return. It's not making money because they cannot get feed traffic as well as QF can.
Auckland, NZ is AKL, not AUC, and that service continues on to Melbourne (MEL), Australia. To provide daily service from LAX-SYD (14 hour flight) you need 2 B747-400's theoretically, same with SFO-SYD and LAX-AKL-MEL. There go 6 B747-400's. Same with the SFO-HKG route...the RTW needs 3 (?) B747-400's
LON-CHI From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1786 times:
I don't mean to sound flippant, but I think UA knows what it is doing in regards to the number of 744's in their fleet. Running an airline is a very complex business and unless you have access to their books, it's hard to judge whether they have too many of a certain type of aircraft. Sure, UAL lost a lot of $$$ last year (mostly due to the pilots work action), but before that, they were profitable. If some of their 744's were wasting money, they would sell or lease them out.
B747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1745 times:
Once again ILUV767 contradicts himself. That boy is so confused....
Today he writes :
Simply put, they need their 747s. For their route network, having 44 747s is really a good number for United. That is just right.
Last week he wrote :
You can keep thinking all that you want about the 747. In reality, it's days are over at most carriers. Sorry to burst your bubble. I also know that UAL is planning on getting rid of about 1/2 of the 744 fleet.
So which one is it David? Or did Jimmy Goodwin change his long term strategic plan after consulting with BASA?