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ABC Developing Series About Pan Am  
User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2304 posts, RR: 8
Posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7701 times:

Variety is reporting that ABC is developing a series about Pan Am in the 1960s. Here's a link:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118024364.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

It sounds like the series will be one part Mad Men, one part Coffee, Tea, or Me. Hopefully, the aviation-related scenes in the TV series will be authentic!


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User currently offlineflyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7397 times:

"Although he has no confirmation of this, Van Amburg said Pan Am's owners may see the TV show as an opportunity to relaunch the brand -- perhaps once again via flight."


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User currently offlineisitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7371 times:

I sure hope they get a real good technical advisor who has power to check airport and airplane clips before the final product is aired.
Otherwise we call get to list the screwups.......like we usually do with a TV show or movie about airports or airliners.
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User currently offlineN49WA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7130 times:

I wonder if Frank Abagnale will be a recurring character.

User currently offlineBOACCunard From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7112 times:

If we see "Mad Men"-style attention to detail, it could be great. But it could also be horrible.

And please, no more "re-launching the Pan Am brand via flight." We've had enough inconsequential little airlines using this name already. We don't need more.



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User currently offlineUSXguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1092 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6934 times:

Damn I thought this was for PAM ANN  


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 16112 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6896 times:

Quoting BOACCunard (Reply 4):
If we see "Mad Men"-style attention to detail, it could be great.

   This could be great or horrible. And, let me be the first to propose a spin off (or like what CSI Miami is to CSI) or miniseries chronicling the last few years of Braniff. It might be a bit tough to sell the public on the fact that Harding Lawrence really was the way he was though.



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User currently offlinespacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3812 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6800 times:

Quoting BOACCunard (Reply 4):
If we see "Mad Men"-style attention to detail, it could be great. But it could also be horrible.

Not even "Mad Men" is perfect, they just get right more than they don't, and throw in so much period-specific stuff that most people are too overwhelmed to notice the details they mess up. But, for example, they use lots of typefaces in their ads and other media that didn't even exist back then, some of which were in fact invented much later specifically to look "retro".

I don't have a problem with this approach, though, because most people aren't "rivet-counters" and the idea is just to get the look and feel right. So I think no matter what happens, there are going to be things in this Pan Am series that they get wrong and that people here will howl about, but it could still be a good series.



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User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6793 times:

Whoa, a series about Pan Am is enough to make me excited. But then to hear that it involves Thomas Schlamme who had a huge role in "The West Wing", my all-time favorite TV show... WOW! I can't wait!

Just get Aaron Sorkin to write it, and this would be a dream come true.   

Or maybe not, since I'd be glued to the TV...

Cheers!
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User currently offlinedirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1746 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6742 times:

As an avid Mad Men fan, I'm looking forward to this, plus the fact that ABC's producing this means that this won't go unnoticed. Some of the largest hits of the decade were produced by ABC (Lost, Desperate Housewives etc.). Mad Men's ratings were great given it's on AMC, but a major network-produced show is something else. I have high hopes for this.

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 16112 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6726 times:

Quoting Airport (Reply 8):

I'd be all for having Aaron Sorkin write it, but Studio 60 was even better than the West Wing. I'm sure that the Pan Am building had plenty of long hallways to have conversations in.



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User currently offlinetoptravel From Italy, joined Oct 2005, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6643 times:

Great bring it on. Shame they say New York was where PA had a major hub, how about head office in nice big building called the 'Pan Am Building' with the 'Copter Club' on the top floor. 'Mad Men' reminds me of 'Wells Rich and Green' one of the last of PA's ad agencies. Great era and a wonderful time to work for PA.

User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2304 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6561 times:

Quoting N49WA (Reply 3):
I wonder if Frank Abagnale will be a recurring character.

Los Angeles Times media correspondent Joe Flint (who is the brother of Air Transport World's managing editor, Perry Flint) said something similar. Joe said "wouldn't it have been easier if ABC had turned "Catch Me if you Can" into a TV series?"



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User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4334 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6407 times:

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 1):
Van Amburg said Pan Am's owners may see the TV show as an opportunity to relaunch the brand -- perhaps once again via flight."

These owners are the same ones who tarnished the brand and had their operating certificate revoked by the FAA. Good luck with that.


User currently offlineclipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6069 times:

The Pan Am brand even after all these years is still iconic and one of the most well known brands in the world. As for a TV show it seems a good story line around the brand could work. 707's anyone?


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User currently offlineflyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6044 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 13):
These owners are the same ones who tarnished the brand and had their operating certificate revoked by the FAA. Good luck with that.

Ugh, that was an ugly abomination of the Pan Am brand, and they should serve jail time for the injustice they did! It is sad, but the Pan Am name is better left to the movies and merchandise instead of on airplanes.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6005 times:

The 1960's offer a rich period of time in America and the world to look back on as many events then still affect us today. Shows like this will most probably overplay the sex between the stewardesses and pilots rather than the real politics behind the scenes at Pan Am and the USA government. It will probably overplay the preceived glamour of air travel and service that many, especially here, are nostalgic for rather than the reality that PanAm and other airlines were in an highly regulated enviroment.

User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2630 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5853 times:

Quoting isitsafenow (Reply 2):
movie about airports or airliners

Do you recall "Fate is the Hunter"? That was so stupid (the airplane, not the story) I could hardly sit still enough to watch it.



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User currently offlinehiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2186 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5823 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):
the real politics behind the scenes at Pan Am and the USA government.

      Ladies and Gentlemen we have a winnuh!

It would be nice to see a good series with some humor about it...as it would be nice to see aircraft without the airbus forced billboard logo...bu the behind the scenes stuff from the 30's onward with the US Gov would be more of a drama I would think....hell there were even crazy stories about the president's fleet having pan am templates for painting at one time or another....


User currently offlineBOACCunard From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5518 times:

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 7):
Not even "Mad Men" is perfect

Indeed it isn't -- nothing is -- but it's pretty good. Certainly the level of attention to detail is far higher than most of what one sees. Given the general quality level of what's out there, I think it is a good benchmark.

But as I said ... if they get it wrong this could be awful. I'd rather it not be made than have it made poorly. Much like the various reincarnations of Pan Am itself, which I think most of us wish never happened.



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User currently offlinecharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5421 times:

Quoting BOACCunard (Reply 19):
But as I said ... if they get it wrong this could be awful. I'd rather it not be made than have it made poorly. Much like the various reincarnations of Pan Am itself, which I think most of us wish never happened.

So you're telling us that L-1011's in 1966 will be in bad form   


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3936 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5374 times:

I wonder if ABC will use the "For Once In A Lifetime... Get Into This World" jingles from the 1960s as the title song.


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User currently offlineBOACCunard From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5098 times:

Quoting charlienorth (Reply 20):

So you're telling us that L-1011's in 1966 will be in bad form

As much as I love the L-1011, I have to agree with you on that one.  



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User currently offlineisitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 5070 times:

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 17):
Do you recall "Fate is the Hunter"? That was so stupid (the airplane, not the story) I could hardly sit still enough to watch it.

There was a thread on this a few years back. One of the posters of the thread was on the set of the movie. I always thought the plane was a converted Martin 404 but it was a DC6, modified for the movie of course.
I like the story(I have a copy of the movie) because I was a big Glenn Ford fan. A young Suzanne Pleshette was the surviving F.A.
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User currently offlineb737100 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4949 times:

What fun! I Can't wait.....passenger in 2A: "Oh stewardess, may I please have another highball? Is it true there will be a full length motion picture for my viewing pleasure?"


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