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EK Employee Admits Stealing 2.6m Air Miles  
User currently offlineEkA380 From Egypt, joined Aug 2008, 120 posts, RR: 7
Posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10664 times:

Hey everybody ,
I was reading the news this morning and found this to be really interesting :
http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs....922/NATIONAL/709219815/0/WEEKENDER

Would love to hear what ya'll think !

Cheers
Islam Darwish


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User currently onlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13254 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10043 times:
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Unfortunately, fraud committed by airline employees isn't anything new - nor is this the last time we'll hear of it.


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User currently offlinePBOA380FAN From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10005 times:

Not the best country to have commited the affence.

User currently offlinepeanuts From Netherlands, joined Dec 2009, 1411 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10005 times:

Mmm...not the brightest criminal. The way this scheme was set up apparently, it was only a matter of (a short) time before it would be exposed for obvious reasons. Big duh!


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User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2627 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9902 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 1):
Unfortunately, fraud committed by airline employees isn't anything new - nor is this the last time we'll hear of it.

   When I used to work in the airline industry, I lost count of how many times fellow employees were committing fraud using bogus frequent flyer miles, bogus buddy passes, stolen ticket stock, etc. One person even went as far as to steal my logon/password to book flights fraudulently. All of them were caught and many of them were prosecuted.

Quoting peanuts (Reply 3):
Mmm...not the brightest criminal. The way this scheme was set up apparently, it was only a matter of (a short) time before it would be exposed for obvious reasons. Big duh!

Totally agree. Sooner or later one of these so called "frequent flyers" was going to fill out a frequent flyer application for themselves. As soon as that happens the    starts flying.


User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2106 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9538 times:

Hope someone will update on the court's verdict on 5 October 2010. 1 - 2 years of jail sentence and immediate deportation upon completing the term?

User currently offlinealwaysontherun From Netherlands Antilles, joined Jan 2010, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6550 times:

Quoting bohica (Reply 4):
All of them were caught and many of them were prosecuted.

Well, you only know about the ones that were caught………….

I once heard an interesting quote about the spying trade, it was something like:
"The key is to be well camouflaged, for everybody to see you".

The best are still out there, I´m afraid!

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User currently offlineronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1653 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6515 times:

Such a silly thing to do! Anyone could have easily caught onto such a scheme!

I would believe that FFP systems are based on fully automated IT systems, which would obviously keep records of each activity.

A few simple clicks here and there, and yea, and that person is busted and kicked right on out!


On a different note, there is a 'Darweesh' mentioned in the article! haha  Smile

[Edited 2010-09-22 22:15:26]


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User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6515 times:

Quoting PBOA380FAN (Reply 2):
affence.

I usually let it pass until I noticed your flag said from England. Offense!


User currently offlineeta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2051 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5934 times:

I've read on another site there is an interesting scam involving Air China check-in staff at the Beijing International terminal.

User currently offlineOzGuy From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 392 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5417 times:

Quoting 413X3 (Reply 8):

I usually let it pass until I noticed your flag said from England. Offense!

*cough* in England it'd be offence ;D *cough*


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3021 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5093 times:

Whilst the employees were undoubtedly foolish and greedy, I think that being classed and tried as public officals is a bit rich for the UAE legal system - I can hardly imagine that a Kenyan Customer Services agent was ever afforded the luxuries given to a UAE public offical.


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User currently offlinetrigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 534 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4154 times:

The media there do not publish the full names of the accused? Standard practice?

BTW, most crooks are dumb, not surprising that they get caught. With that many airline miles, it reminds me of the scene from Office Space where they realize they had waaaaaay too much money in that account they created.


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3814 times:

I am sure he is not the first with a briliant idea to earn more money and not the last.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 7):
A few simple clicks here and there, and yea, and that person is busted and kicked right on out!

Well, since he opened 2000 accounts obviously with the same E-Mail Adress and earned a 60000 Dirhams, I believe some security and IT guys will also need a new job now.


User currently offlineQuokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

Quoting trigged (Reply 12):
BTW, most crooks are dumb, not surprising that they get caught.

The few that aren't go on to achieve high office and some progress despite being convicted. Indeed, in Australia a convicted felon is portrayed on one of our banknotes - http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/A020327b.htm

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 13):
Well, since he opened 2000 accounts obviously with the same E-Mail Adress and earned a 60000 Dirhams, I believe some security and IT guys will also need a new job now.

Since the report quotes that he started opening false accounts in October 2009 and investigations commenced in December 2009 (no days of the month are provided, so it could have been 31/10 and 01/12) perhaps we shouldn't be too critical. It is one thing to detect the possibility of fraud: quite another to establish conclusive evidence. To secure a conviction a suitable period of tracking would be required.


User currently onlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 717 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 1):
Unfortunately, fraud committed by airline employees isn't anything new

In fact, the same can be said for many industries. For sure, that is the case in retail.

Quoting trigged (Reply 12):
BTW, most crooks are dumb, not surprising that they get caught.

Well, the ones that are caught are the ones we know about, not sure if we catch them all, so I would think that crooks as a crossection span a wide range as any other group in society: from smartest to dumbest, from very rich to very poor, etc.


User currently offlineEkA380 From Egypt, joined Aug 2008, 120 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

Quoting PBOA380FAN (Reply 2):
Not the best country to have commited the affence

Yup  
Quoting peanuts (Reply 3):
Mmm...not the brightest criminal

  

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 5):
Hope someone will update on the court's verdict on 5 October 2010. 1 - 2 years of jail sentence and immediate deportation upon completing the term?

I will try to do that. My guess would have been 4 years of jail lol, lets see  
Quoting ronerone (Reply 7):
On a different note, there is a 'Darweesh' mentioned in the article! haha  

He is the good guy   not cunning at all :P

Quoting trigged (Reply 12):
The media there do not publish the full names of the accused? Standard practice?

Well there is no standard practice here the media here is as inconsistent as EK so I think it depends on the case , it may have been that EK didn't want them to publish the names :S

Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 15):
In fact, the same can be said for many industries. For sure, that is the case in retail.

Right  

Cheers
Islam Darwish



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