EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12562 posts, RR: 64 Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9399 times:
Unfortunately, fraud committed by airline employees isn't anything new - nor is this the last time we'll hear of it.
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peanuts From Netherlands, joined Dec 2009, 1309 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9361 times:
Mmm...not the brightest criminal. The way this scheme was set up apparently, it was only a matter of (a short) time before it would be exposed for obvious reasons. Big duh!
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bohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2411 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9258 times:
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 1): Unfortunately, fraud committed by airline employees isn't anything new - nor is this the last time we'll hear of it.
When I used to work in the airline industry, I lost count of how many times fellow employees were committing fraud using bogus frequent flyer miles, bogus buddy passes, stolen ticket stock, etc. One person even went as far as to steal my logon/password to book flights fraudulently. All of them were caught and many of them were prosecuted.
Quoting peanuts (Reply 3): Mmm...not the brightest criminal. The way this scheme was set up apparently, it was only a matter of (a short) time before it would be exposed for obvious reasons. Big duh!
Totally agree. Sooner or later one of these so called "frequent flyers" was going to fill out a frequent flyer application for themselves. As soon as that happens the starts flying.
gabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 2512 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4449 times:
Whilst the employees were undoubtedly foolish and greedy, I think that being classed and tried as public officals is a bit rich for the UAE legal system - I can hardly imagine that a Kenyan Customer Services agent was ever afforded the luxuries given to a UAE public offical.
trigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 497 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3510 times:
The media there do not publish the full names of the accused? Standard practice?
BTW, most crooks are dumb, not surprising that they get caught. With that many airline miles, it reminds me of the scene from Office Space where they realize they had waaaaaay too much money in that account they created.
OHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 27 Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3170 times:
I am sure he is not the first with a briliant idea to earn more money and not the last.
Quoting ronerone (Reply 7): A few simple clicks here and there, and yea, and that person is busted and kicked right on out!
Well, since he opened 2000 accounts obviously with the same E-Mail Adress and earned a 60000 Dirhams, I believe some security and IT guys will also need a new job now.
Quokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3004 times:
Quoting trigged (Reply 12): BTW, most crooks are dumb, not surprising that they get caught.
The few that aren't go on to achieve high office and some progress despite being convicted. Indeed, in Australia a convicted felon is portrayed on one of our banknotes - http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/A020327b.htm
Quoting OHLHD (Reply 13): Well, since he opened 2000 accounts obviously with the same E-Mail Adress and earned a 60000 Dirhams, I believe some security and IT guys will also need a new job now.
Since the report quotes that he started opening false accounts in October 2009 and investigations commenced in December 2009 (no days of the month are provided, so it could have been 31/10 and 01/12) perhaps we shouldn't be too critical. It is one thing to detect the possibility of fraud: quite another to establish conclusive evidence. To secure a conviction a suitable period of tracking would be required.
ETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 624 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2416 times:
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 1): Unfortunately, fraud committed by airline employees isn't anything new
In fact, the same can be said for many industries. For sure, that is the case in retail.
Quoting trigged (Reply 12): BTW, most crooks are dumb, not surprising that they get caught.
Well, the ones that are caught are the ones we know about, not sure if we catch them all, so I would think that crooks as a crossection span a wide range as any other group in society: from smartest to dumbest, from very rich to very poor, etc.
EkA380 From Egypt, joined Aug 2008, 120 posts, RR: 7 Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1925 times:
Quoting PBOA380FAN (Reply 2): Not the best country to have commited the affence
Yup
Quoting peanuts (Reply 3): Mmm...not the brightest criminal
Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 5): Hope someone will update on the court's verdict on 5 October 2010. 1 - 2 years of jail sentence and immediate deportation upon completing the term?
I will try to do that. My guess would have been 4 years of jail lol, lets see
Quoting ronerone (Reply 7): On a different note, there is a 'Darweesh' mentioned in the article! haha
He is the good guy not cunning at all :P
Quoting trigged (Reply 12): The media there do not publish the full names of the accused? Standard practice?
Well there is no standard practice here the media here is as inconsistent as EK so I think it depends on the case , it may have been that EK didn't want them to publish the names :S
Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 15): In fact, the same can be said for many industries. For sure, that is the case in retail.
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When I used to work in the airline industry, I lost count of how many times fellow employees were committing fraud using bogus frequent flyer miles, bogus buddy passes, stolen ticket stock, etc. One person even went as far as to steal my logon/password to book flights fraudulently. All of them were caught and many of them were prosecuted.
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